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Oxy vs Dope... Smack by popular demand

well I wouldn't call oxy weak, especially not 80's and I really wouldn't encourage anyone switching to heroin if you're still getting real 80's at a reasonable price. That's the only reason I switched to dope, because 80's went away. With dope there's no consistency. Sometimes the shit's pure fire and other times I feel like I completely wasted my time. At least with 80's they're always the same unless you end up with bunks like these, but even then you can get ripped off buying any kind of drug, pharms are much less likely to be ripped off.
 
RecklessWOT said:
well I wouldn't call oxy weak, especially not 80's and I really wouldn't encourage anyone switching to heroin if you're still getting real 80's at a reasonable price. That's the only reason I switched to dope, because 80's went away. With dope there's no consistency. Sometimes the shit's pure fire and other times I feel like I completely wasted my time. At least with 80's they're always the same unless you end up with bunks like these, but even then you can get ripped off buying any kind of drug, pharms are much less likely to be ripped off.
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Well clearly you and i have had different experiences concerning oxy and dope. Oxy is weak for me, never get a proper nod..80s aint shit.. you know that right? For me, 160 mg doesnt work at all..but i dime of dope will always put my dick in the dirt..how much u get an 80 for? Two 80s? Cheap as a dime?? I think not.. as far as getting ripped off, bunk shit, it just dont happen.. i know where these people live, i go to them they know me....no rip offs, just good deals.. fuck weak ass oxy.. it aint shit. If you cant get good dope, if u get ripped off, sucks for you..i suggested they switch bc ime oxy is weak bullshit.. maybe its my body chemistry. W/e, thats been my experience.
 
Maybe so. I'm not dicksizing, i really don't care what your tolerance is it just ends up being cheaper for me when I need less. You never have gotten a nod from oxy, or just now that your tolerance is super high you can't? 100mg of oxy will still put me in a great place. I used to get 80's for around the same price I now get dope for yes, but I no longer can. An 80 is an 80, they're always the same no matter who you buy them from because they're made in a factory (unless the rare circumstances like fake pills which is not too common). Dope is passed around and cut and comes from all different places and sources, so obviously it is going to be different from time to time. It's pretty easy to cut a bag of powder to shit to try to double your profits if you're a shady dealer. No way to really cut a pill... Sometimes a dime will do the job, sometimes it most definitely does not. Maybe i'm just not personally friends with heroin dealers like you seem to be which is why my luck ends up a little different.

And all of that aside, if the OP is buying 80's I doubt he thinks it's weak/worthless. I don't ever think it's a good idea to suggest people make the switch because that's never a good road to go down (and you know it whether you made the switch or not).
 
RecklessWOT said:
Maybe so. I'm not dicksizing, i really don't care what your tolerance is it just ends up being cheaper for me when I need less. You never have gotten a nod from oxy, or just now that your tolerance is super high you can't? 100mg of oxy will still put me in a great place. I used to get 80's for around the same price I now get dope for yes, but I no longer can. An 80 is an 80, they're always the same no matter who you buy them from because they're made in a factory (unless the rare circumstances like fake pills which is not too common). Dope is passed around and cut and comes from all different places and sources, so obviously it is going to be different from time to time. It's pretty easy to cut a bag of powder to shit to try to double your profits if you're a shady dealer. No way to really cut a pill... Sometimes a dime will do the job, sometimes it most definitely does not. Maybe i'm just not personally friends with heroin dealers like you seem to be which is why my luck ends up a little different.

And all of that aside, if the OP is buying 80's I doubt he thinks it's weak/worthless. I don't ever think it's a good idea to suggest people make the switch because that's never a good road to go down (and you know it whether you made the switch or not).
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I am not dicksizing, no need to dicksize. Just the truth. When i started opiates, 30mg oxy would nod me proper..but i never got into opiates, until i did heroin, which blew oxy out of the water.....seriously, my tolerance is low, i can do a dime and nod proper..tbh, oxy will not do it for me.160 mg insufflated will not do shit. Sucks you cant get good dope, cause dope>oxy and its cheaper.. dope is veeeeeery inexpensicve around here.. theres just no reason to even fuck with oxy if theres good dope to be had.. where do you stay? Dope weaker than oxy?? Thats some bullshit..
 
The Rock Monster said:
Well clearly you and i have had different experiences concerning oxy and dope. Oxy is weak for me, never get a proper nod..80s aint shit.. you know that right? For me, 160 mg doesnt work at all..but i dime of dope will always put my dick in the dirt..how much u get an 80 for? Two 80s? Cheap as a dime?? I think not.. as far as getting ripped off, bunk shit, it just dont happen.. i know where these people live, i go to them they know me....no rip offs, just good deals.. fuck weak ass oxy.. it aint shit. If you cant get good dope, if u get ripped off, sucks for you..i suggested they switch bc ime oxy is weak bullshit.. maybe its my body chemistry. W/e, thats been my experience.
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yeah man i was snortin 2 80s and was like fuck i remeber when 30mg railed me..wow we had the same experiance lol
 
^Sounds like a few of us have. I dabbled in opiates every now and then and would nod off of 30mg oxy really good. But I never sought em out or really got into them until I did dope. It's far and away a better opiate.
 
shit it seemed like i stayed at 40mgs forever but once i hit 80 i soon hit 160 and then more..then i switched
 
i didnt hate it while it still got me high..never tried dillys..still want to
 
^Your sayin dope is always so good cuz you get that nasty ass BTH shit, and I believe you that it's pretty high purity and consistent but fuck that. I'd rather have to do 4 80's or however many bags of dope then be smokin that shit. I've had fire BTH from Columbus and I've had fire powder from jersey and powder > BTH all fuckin day.

Either way the point I'm makin is, not hating on you smokin black tar or that you get it or even trying to start the BTH vs. powder arguement. I can believe that the shit in PHX is consistent and good but most of the dope game ain't consistent every single day day after day, I mean certain dealers deff are but it's always a crap shoot. I could get some fire bags today that 2 bags would blow your dime of BT out of the water, but the same name tommorrow could be garbage.
That's the point Reckless is tryin to make about consistency and shit. Every single time you get a 80 it's exactly the same as the last, I doubt even the BTH you get is exactly the same purity year after year. Even if the purity is close, it's not the same exact shit.

I'm not advocating oc's like they're some super drug because I'd take a few bags over an 80 any day, but if dude is cool with his CDN 80's and he gets em for the low why switch to dope? Dope in Canada is usually shit compared to the US unless your in Vancouver and the 80's are all over the whole country. Maybe in PHX you get more bang for your buck then a 80, and you do here in Pittsburgh to...but I'd say the game in Canada is a bit more sub par then what we're used to.
 
......shitty bth

Bricks & Stacks said:
^Your sayin dope is always so good cuz you get that nasty ass BTH shit, and I believe you that it's pretty high purity and consistent but fuck that. I'd rather have to do 4 80's or however many bags of dope then be smokin that shit. I've had fire BTH from Columbus and I've had fire powder from jersey and powder > BTH all fuckin day.

Either way the point I'm makin is, not hating on you smokin black tar or that you get it or even trying to start the BTH vs. powder arguement. I can believe that the shit in PHX is consistent and good but most of the dope game ain't consistent every single day day after day, I mean certain dealers deff are but it's always a crap shoot. I could get some fire bags today that 2 bags would blow your dime of BT out of the water, but the same name tommorrow could be garbage.
That's the point Reckless is tryin to make about consistency and shit. Every single time you get a 80 it's exactly the same as the last, I doubt even the BTH you get is exactly the same purity year after year. Even if the purity is close, it's not the same exact shit.

I'm not advocating oc's like they're some super drug because I'd take a few bags over an 80 any day, but if dude is cool with his CDN 80's and he gets em for the low why switch to dope? Dope in Canada is usually shit compared to the US unless your in Vancouver and the 80's are all over the whole country. Maybe in PHX you get more bang for your buck then a 80, and you do here in Pittsburgh to...but I'd say the game in Canada is a bit more sub par then what we're used to.
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Well did you read what i said? A dime of shitty ol tar nods me, and 2 80s does not do shit. Do the math. Plus, shit is very inexpensive, and always good..fuck your powder, tar can keep me nodding 24/7... and plus i can get good brown powder, but tar is cheaper....im talkin real cheap..plus i dont shoot up anymore, so why would i want brown powder.. i dont mean to offend you or argue with you..but why are you puuttin my tar on blast? You dont know what it is...shit keeps me noddin, its dirt cheap..always consistent..aint no crap shoot...theres nothing wrong with smoking tar.. your acting like shits foul..beats shootin or sniffin..plus tar tastes delicious...im just fine with my horrible/highly potent/dirt cheap tar. Sorry to rant, but i dont like how you put my precious tar on blast.....:p8)
Anyway if people wana do ocs good for them, i wont advocate switching to h cause of the shit storm i brewed up with that suggestion..oh well..i hope i dont get anyone worked up. Dont pay me no mind....!!
 
Wish I could even find a real OC anymore. Buying dope sucks...its so hit or miss
 
Haha I knew you was gon take it wrong yo, you missed the whole point of what I was sayin. That maybe the shit YOU get is consistent but maybe up in Canada OC's are better bang for your buck. Maybe the dime of BTH you get in PHX would be 10x the price in Canada as you pay

I mean it's all preference and people. I don't see how you can say "fuck my powder" when I read a few days/while ago (I think) you said you had only fucked with BTH? I mean the "powder" you get is waaaaayy diff then the powder I get. I've seen that shit you're talkin about to cuz, they was callin it gunpowder and you could snort it and shit but it wasn't like no regular East coast powder. I don't shoot and never have, so when I was doing BTH I was smoking it. I mean again I guess we just 2 diff types of people cuz that shit is way to much of a hassle to get high and I just never felt as great off it as I do off some fire powder, and I'm not just talkin about the nod.

Like how the fuck you gon be goin down the parkway smokin some black tar and shit feel me? I mean shit dependin where I cop sometimes as soon as I hit the next neighborhood over I'm bustin bags open to get a lil line.
I could see a mufucker sittin in rush hour traffic fuckin holdin foil up and shit, that'd be some funny shit. And like say you out downtown all day and get a cravin, what are you gon do go in McDonalds and start firin up some foils in the stall? haha nah but you take a couple bags in the stall and you can snort them mufuckers right out the bag with one hand WHILE takin a piss with the other.


Either way I wasn't specifically tryin to put you or your tar on blast, but you put the OP on blast pretty hard actin like he was a sucker for doin OC. Again I'm just sayin, if dude was in PHX I would be cosignin you like yeah the d is def better bang for your buck(regardless powder or tar), but who knows where in Canada this mufucker even lives and IF he can even get diesel.

And trust me cuz you got to say a whole lot more to me then hate on my d to get me mad haha so don't worry about gettin me worked up.
 
Its all good.. i said i have only fucked with tar? I lied. I have fucked with brown powder, shot and snort..

And its funny how you say, like, you couldnt imagine drivin smokin bth.. well thats me bro.. i do it wherever the fuck i want..takin a left turn, bumper to bumper. Chillin in the parking lot. In a bathroom stall.. sittin on side of street, couple blocks away from cop spot. And i dont see how you can say powder better than bth, when you say you got shit from columbus... my city is an import hub for all drugs comin from mexico..i am willing to bet phx dope better than columbus...but ya, i done heard that jersey shit be fire alota times. Dope capital etc. Honestly i dont care cause shit i get is good and dirt cheap..
Anyway, i understand point you made..
 
Trust me bro about the quality. Idk if anyone here is from Colombus but the tar in Colombus is some of the best in the nation I've always heard and read, it's the same exact dudes from Xalisco or whatever in Colombus as it is in PHX. I understand your shit is right next to the border but if the guys bringin it across the border drive it straight to Ohio it's the same quality, and I'm almost sure thats what happens cuz I've seen a few newspaper articles about them sendin people to Ohio from AZ/TX with a pound or so of BTH to start.

It's kinda like how the shit I get in Pittsburgh I can honestly say I know 100% sure is the same dope as Jersey cats. Not only from stamp reports and shit but because it's been proven time and time again it comes in the port, gets bagged, and some Pittsburgh dudes are waitin right there to bring it back here. You always are hearin about someone gettin knocked on the turnpike with 1000 bricks or whatever and usually the words "Newark" or "Paterson" are in the article somewhere. We usually get the same stamps as the people in Jersey about 2 days later, and in the bag game how it gets bagged and wrapped in porno mags is how that shit gets re-sold.

I've had D from all over the country, BTH from Colombus, rock hard grams of powder from Detroit in lotto tickets, powder from Atlanta, bags from Jersey/Philly, vials from Bmore, caps/foils from Chicago cats. So I know good dope and bad dope regardless of how it is, and like I said I know the BTH I smoked was high quality, just not my thing I guess.

lol @ you sittin in traffic smokin tho, fuck that cuz. Just seems like a extra hassle. Instead of makin sure you got a bill/cut up pen to sniff shit you gotta have foil at all times.
 
Well i have a fixation with tin foil.. the way it runs down the foil.how its shiny..how it looks, tastes..obsessed. im happy long as i get a fat nod. And foil aint a hassle.. lol. Plus with smoking its instantaneous.. man i love smokin..getin that strong rush while still holding in the fat cloud of smoke..blowing out a cloud, paralyzed from the rush of heroin...simply unable to move, only able to enjoy the high. Whether its tar or powder, its still heroin..it cant be all that different.."heroin, be the death of me" lou reed
 
This discussion came up in another thread, so I figured it is worthy of it's own thread. I'm going to move those posts into this thread.

There are threads like this in BDD, but is certainly a regional question as well, considering us Americans love our oxy and dope.

So which do you prefer, and why?
 
I myself use oxy because of it's availability. I try and take short breaks and keep my tolerance manageable. 240 is an ideal dose but, I can have a decent time with 120. Sometimes I'll get like 400mgs and do it throughout the day.

I'm not totally opposed to heroin. It's just that everyone I know primarily does pharms so I can get oxy at anytime as easy as going to get a pack of cigs. There is no open air heroin markets for me to cop at. I'm sure if I really wanted it I could make the switch.

The thing I really like about oxy is the high. My favorite time to do it is when I'm at work and I have a ton of shit to do. The energetic high just can't be beat for work IMO.

Reading threads like this if anything make me not want to make the switch. I just don't want my tolerance to go up from a stronger drug especially if that means I won't get off on oxy. Nodding off at work is not something that I want to do.
 
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