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Oxy tolerant user has Fentanyl patches- questions

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My friend, and oxy user with a decent tolerance (80mg min) has gotten some fentanyl patches to play with. He has no other opiates so these will be used to stay well, as well as try get a reasonable high for the next couple of days.

I have heard how dangerous these patches can be, and he is well aware and generally a responsible user. Reading some threads in here, he has decided to simply cut very small pieces of it and take orally or sublingually until desired effects are achieved. I am not sure if he is getting the Mylar abuse-proof ones or the gel ones.

Is there anything you can add to help this go as safely as possible?

Also I have heard some horror stories about getting strung out on fentanyl, how once they run out not even heroin or oxy will do the trick anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? He will be using the fentanyl to get by for at least 1-2 days until his next heroin grab (insullfate only) or oxy grab (orally only). Assuming the fentanyl lasts this long, should he alternate days with the heroin or oxy in order to not be hooked on fentanyl? Would this work? Thanks in advance!

I guess I should clarify my questions since I'm not getting much in the way of responses..

- Will using extremely small doses of Fentanyl (sublingual) minimize the massive tolerance upping/severe withdrawl (worse than heroin or oxy) effects that apparently come with abusing this drug?

- Will spacing out/alternating the usage (abuse) of Fentanyl with other opiates (heroin, oxy) reduce the massive tolerance upping/severe withdrawl (worse than heroin or oxy) effects that apparently come with abusing this drug?

Thanks!
 
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Sorry it took so long for you to get a response.

These patches can be very dangerous, and they have the tendency to raise tolerances quite quickly, you are right. Part of the reason is the short duration of the high, and the lack of euphoria when compared to equi-analgesic doses of most other opiods. Using smaller doses, without increasing the frequency of administration of doses will help mitigate some of the tolerance increase, as would alternating between opiates, taking extreme caution at the overlap between fentanyl doses and doses of other opiods; the lack of relative euphoria of the fentanyl may create a situation in which the user doses too soon or too much of another opiate to "get there", resulting in more pronounced CNS depression.

Make sure you do your research on the specific patch in question when you acquire it as routes of administration and dosages may vary.

Threads of interest:

Fentanyl MegaThread and FAQ <====Read this.
Bioavailability/Half-life MegaThread
Fentanyl WD
 
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This is a great answer, thanks.

Also I was not aware of reduced euphoria with these, that's interesting.

Another question: For an oxy/heroin tolerant person who is dosing every few hours to stay well, would these patches be effective just worn as directed? In other words would that manner of use stave off withdrawl from other opiates? Also as such, what would the primary concerns be with using them in that way?
 
Thanks again. Without starting a new thread, I've searched all over and found so much conflicting information:

Does anyone know the best way to abuse the Fentanyl non-gel newer patches?

Brand name is Sandoz Fentanyl Transdermal System and they have no gel like the old ones.
 
put 25 in your mouth at a time and dont swallow just let it sit under your tounge or on your cheek itll be all absorbed after like an hour
 
Honestly if it were me, and I was just trying to prevent sickness for two days, I'd just wear em. Using them in the above manner is going to result in huge dose dumps, which is what is really going to raise tolerance, which you say you're trying to prevent. Not to mention, you nod out with one of those in your mouth...not a good idea to risk that.
 
Thanks all

They are the 25mcg/h ones. So far my friend has been cutting them into quarters and cheeking them, to moderate success. Definitely keeps the sick away, and even gives a bit of a kick. Also last night, he put 1/4 in some lemon juice, and drank the lemon juice this morning. Apparently it worked quite well!
 
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I let it slide in this thread because the consistency led me to believe that it is indeed another person you are asking about, OP, but for future reference, we do not allow pro forma third person on these boards as they muddle the post and offer little to no legal protection.

It seems as though you have gotten all of the answers you need out of this thread; I am going to close it now, but if you need it re-opened to ask further questions, feel free to Private Message me, or to start a New Thread.

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