oxy tolerance, time on drug and withdrawl?

[DebbieDew37]

I have read every thread on withdrawl but still have questions. I have been using oxy off and on for about 5-6 months but always take a couple weeks off between month to month use. This past month I began my bender around July 20, started taking 15mg X 4 times a day for a couple weeks then upped to 20mg X 4-5 times a day and now at 30mg X 4-5 times a day. Prior to July 20 I was clean for 2 weeks. My question is, when I look at the withdrawl chart do I consider myself as using for 5 mths straight or does the 2 weeks clean mean I have only been using for a month? I have cut down to 2 X per day @ 30 mg and plan to continue tapering down, shud I take smaller doses throughout the day? Can I add codiene to the oxy taper as it helped before, I also have tramadol. Can I take my oxy dose and then 4-5 hrs after when the oxy is wearing off take t3s (tylenol w codiene) to help with aches etc?

Also forgot to mention that I am now at the point where I feel nothing at 30 mg, prior to choosing to go off the oxy I would like to feel good a couple more times, can I safely increase my dose to feel the euphoria? Would I crush 40mg and ingest? That's my regular way of taking the oxy.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

If you want to help your taper I don't recommend increasing the dosage...

 

[DebbieDew37]

Thank you that does make sense. Should I lower my taper doses?

 

[effie]

I have read every thread on withdrawl but still have questions. I have been using oxy off and on for about 5-6 months but always take a couple weeks off between month to month use. This past month I began my bender around July 20, started taking 15mg X 4 times a day for a couple weeks then upped to 20mg X 4-5 times a day and now at 30mg X 4-5 times a day. Prior to July 20 I was clean for 2 weeks. My question is, when I look at the withdrawl chart do I consider myself as using for 5 mths straight or does the 2 weeks clean mean I have only been using for a month?

That depends. Did your tolerance return to baseline (well, near enough) in that time? If so, you can think of it as a month, although it seems to be a rule that the more times you up your tolerance then come off it the harder it gets each time, so it might feel worse than you'd expect for a month of use.. if your tolerance didn't come down at all then it might feel like 5 months, but I'd think that unlikely. I'd say somewhere in the two! (not v useful I know sorry)

I have cut down to 2 X per day @ 30 mg and plan to continue tapering down, shud I take smaller doses throughout the day? Can I add codiene to the oxy taper as it helped before, I also have tramadol. Can I take my oxy dose and then 4-5 hrs after when the oxy is wearing off take t3s (tylenol w codiene) to help with aches etc?

As long as your daily dose is going down it doesn't really matter if you have it twice a day or more. Oxy's half life is 4-5 hours so actually I'd probably divide the dose up into 4 a day personally, or even more (presuming it is IR. If it is ER - makes no difference)

You can mix other opioids in, it complicated things and I'd refer to the opioid conversion table to check what dose you are having in comparison to the oxy.. if you can stick to non-opioid painkillers (APAP and ibuprofen, for example) that would be ideal otherwise if you slip into daily codeine use you may have to taper off that too! A few here and there shouldn't make too much difference though.

Personally I'd divide my oxy dose and take that when the first one wears off, plus APAP and ibprofen or diclofenac.. (as long as you are not asthmatic or have kidney disease)

Also forgot to mention that I am now at the point where I feel nothing at 30 mg, prior to choosing to go off the oxy I would like to feel good a couple more times, can I safely increase my dose to feel the euphoria? Would I crush 40mg and ingest? That's my regular way of taking the oxy.

You could safely do it but chasing one last high is only going to lead to disappointment I feel.. now you have decided on the taper, best to just go for it from 30 I reckon!

Best of luck

 

[DebbieDew37]

Thanks so much that was helpful. My tolerance completely returned to normal in the 2 weeks I abstain
ed it went right back down to 15mg and took about a month to reach 30mg but that's using 3-4 x per day. So am up to 30mg x 3 per day now. Developed the taper down schedule as follows-today 60mg. Day 2-50mg Day3-40mg Day 4-30mg. Day 5-20mg Day 6 -10mg then off. Now I usually crush the 0time release (canada) but perhaps when tapering I should take the time release as they are intended?

 

[lman_15]

I would say DO NOT increase your dose.. that is the hardest part about tapering you always have the temptation in the back of your mind that "oh I dropped my dose in half I just want to get high one last time let me bump it back up" which in turn fucks up your taper and makes it harder to taper and quit.. I would say keep tapering and do what ever is comfortable. Basic rule of thumb for tapering is get your dose as low as you can each day so that you are not in pain/going through withdrawal. then continue to lower

If you can get your hand on some valium or xanax or a benzo of sorts it would help when you "drop off" (go from your lowest dose to nothing).. that is with the anxiety and muscle aches and pains

Note: when tapering just do what you have to.. do just enough so that your not going through withdrawal. then your dose will stabalize and continue to lower from there