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Oxy to PST

if thats what your worried about then save it for when your screaming as its legs are so long that if you use it to bulid tollerance your going to be

fighting the addiction way longer than if you used morphine based opiates.
 
lonelyDude said:
if thats what your worried about then save it for when your screaming as its legs are so long that if you use it to bulid tollerance your going to be

fighting the addiction way longer than if you used morphine based opiates.
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Probably too late for that. Sounds like if I want to get off I'll have to switch back to oxy and taper from that. Still have the odd tablet and still get a buzz.

Main problem is a guy who sells to me is gouging me.
 
supply and demand.

your demanding so his supply is able to charge what it wishes.

nature of addiction and one of the true evils that can be found in the drug world.

the ability to take advantage of the weak be it there mental state or there chemical state of mind.

kick the shit till the fuckwit comes round show them whos boss ;p
 
if you are happy I am happy.

remember love your life.

when you do not then change your life.
 
Camellia said:
I know you aren't allowed to discuss sourcing, but the seeds I use are highly available and not very potent. Three bags in a drink bottle is the norm.

Could someone reliably tell me what methadone is actually like? I've always just been told that it's the opiate that doesn't make you high. Are we being misled? Do the patients leave the clinic with a buzz on??
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Methadone has been known to give some people a buzz, yes. I know someone who adamantly states she gets a buzz.

Suboxone when I used to have the medication inducted would give me a decent buzz for 5 days straight or so. After that, nothing.

You basically have to have no opiate tolerance for either of them to be any kind of recreational.

They're extremely useful for what they're meant to be used for and I actually would recommend it over using the PST as like I've mentioned, this avenue of use may not pan out the way you are hoping it will.
 
lonelyDude said:
it makes you high but if your dosed so as to stop withdrawal it is set at a level so as not too increase your addiction.

we call it goose juice here as 90% of people on it turn into gooses with some delight in there personal smell for some reason.

makes your piss smell like troll shit and is awesome for working out on.

trust me it is far more value as a withdrawal prevention aid than getting high aid.

the big selling point of the goose juice over the chicken soup (bupe) is that you can still use when on it as it does not have an opiate blocker in it.
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Thats actually not true and is very dose dependant. If your on a high enough 'done dose, it will block opiates just as well as the subs do.
 
depending on binding affinity that is probably true :)

though if you were to use something with a stronger binding affinity that will just kick the methadone right off the receptor.

if using morphine based opiates I would say your 100% right but for fent that is not the case as its KI value is less than methadone.

www.pharmacytimes.com

Opioid Agonists, Partial Agonists, Antagonists: Oh My!

A look at the different receptor bindings that affect analgesic effect.
www.pharmacytimes.com www.pharmacytimes.com

I guess it depends on were you live as in the usa its all fent but here its all morphine based.

plus who wants to use methadone to the point it blocks other opiates your better of with bup if your going that route.

all the users I know that take methadone still use gear and make sure that there methadone dose is only enough to hold them.
 
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lonelyDude said:
depending on binding affinity that is probably true :)

though if you were to use something with a stronger binding affinity that will just kick the methadone right off the receptor.

if using morphine based opiates I would say your 100% right but for fent that is not the case as its KI value is less than methadone.

www.pharmacytimes.com

Opioid Agonists, Partial Agonists, Antagonists: Oh My!

A look at the different receptor bindings that affect analgesic effect.
www.pharmacytimes.com www.pharmacytimes.com

I guess it depends on were you live as in the usa its all fent but here its all morphine based.

plus who wants to use methadone to the point it blocks other opiates your better of with bup if your going that route.

all the users I know that take methadone still use gear and make sure that there methadone dose is only enough to hold them.
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Yeah ive noticed this too with methadone and people.
However with low dose bupe of around 2-4mg i was able to still use heroin effectively.
With around 80mg 'done i found the blockage pretty high though.

Im from qld and all the gear around here doesnt have fent. Its rare in aus. I usually dont get it locally cuz its just shit. I think only twice was it high quality.
Its very dose dependant it seems. Thats just my personal experience though. Your mileage may vary.
 
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