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Opioids Oxy to Morphine Ratio?

Ohayou

Ohayou

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I'm sorry if there was a thread like this before, but I could not find it.

I'm about to acquire a 60mg MS Contin. 60mg of oxycodone barely affects me at all and as many of you know from my other threads getting high after quitting bupe has been impossible, but PPT (5 large pods) has come the closest to giving me a high. So, I figure maybe morphine, a true opiate, might do the trick. Should I crush and eat the whole 60mg? Or would that be too much. What do you guys recommend?
 
If you can defeat the time release do so, because 40 mg oxycodone = 60 mg morphine (orally). But, morphine's oral bioavailability varies from person to person, so you might absorb it better than most, who knows. You still might get high, though, because even if you have a tolerance for one opiate, another might get you off. Morphine is more sedating than oxycodone, generally, and it is morphine after all. Enjoy.
 
Alex000 said:
If you can defeat the time release do so, because 40 mg oxycodone = 60 mg morphine (orally). But, morphine's oral bioavailability varies from person to person, so you might absorb it better than most, who knows. You still might get high, though, because even if you have a tolerance for one opiate, another might get you off. Morphine is more sedating than oxycodone, generally, and it is morphine after all. Enjoy.
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I hope you're right about this, because all drugs synthesized from thebaine have failed to get me high excluding PPT, so I'm thinking morphine might be the key to getting somewhere. From what you said and that conversion chart, I'll crush the MS Contin and parachute it and see how that goes.

ARG! They don't have buprenorphine for that converter. I just converted 60mg of oxy (which does nothing to to me) and for tolerance I put %75 (of course I was unsure what to put there at all) and it gave me a dose of 22mg morphine. Hmm...
 
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If you experience negligible effects from 60mg of oxycodone, you will be disappointed with 60mg of oral MSContin, regardless of whether you crush it or not. However if you're going to take it, parachuting it is your best bet.
 
But I do get slightly high from PPT (very slightly) from what would be considered a moderate dose. I am thinking maybe I have an ultra-high tolerance to thebaine derived opioids, like the buprenorphine i was on for 4 years. This is maybe why any dose of oxy does nothing to me but morphine and other natural opiates have some effect. This is just a theory though.
 
I would get some grapefruit juice. Instead of telling us that 60mg's of oxy barely effects you. It would be more helpful if you could tell us what you can feel.

I'm not sure if you IV but if you were to go that rout that would get you high. But i'm not recommending it if you already dont do it.

Do you only have 1 pill? Your best bet would be to dose some DXM an hour before your going to take it, also get some grapefruit juice. Try 1 and see how that feels, if that doesn't work. Then I would consider taking 2 at a time and crushing them.

You could always try plugging also for a higher BA. Oxy is much more stimulating and euphoric then morphine in my opinion. Morphine is more sedating. The problem is going to be the low BA, so your going to need to get around that.
 
Thanks opanaking, yes I have been taking grapefruit juice before each dose but it seems that I got the ruby red kind which i am now learning is not the right stuff. Before my next try I'll get the white kind (is that right?).

And yes, you are right, I need to be specific on what 60mg oxy does to me (on a 1/4th full stomach and that reed ruby GFJ): I get a slight rush that makes me itch a little and feel warm (not in a good way necessarily, it actually kind of freaks me out).

Then I experience the slightest euphoria that I would place 1 out of 10, 10 being nodding balls in absolute paradise. I also can't sleep and I hear siren like sounds in my head when trying to doze off. My pupils constrict, and i feel slightly more sociable. The very mild euphoria dies and sometimes reverses into dysphoria after about 30 minutes. I don't experience any kind of nodding or "couch lock", not even the slightest bit. The experience is so subtle I would say diphenhydramine has MUCH more noticeable psychoactive effects on me.

Honestly, I could achieve the same effects to a much greater extent with 10mg of adderall (referring to the euphoria here). PPT had a much higher euphoric effect on me and was very stimulant like as well, giving that high a 4 out of 10 on my euphoria scale. If I can think of any more specifics I'll edit this and add them.

@opanaking (or anyone else who knows), what should I get DXM-wise and how much should I take. Please give me all the details on what I should do to prep for my next experiment. Please note I have 120mg (6x20mg roxies) oxycodone left. I am determined and committed to getting a quality high (I define by being very euphoric and nodding) and will try whatever I can without taking too much risk.

I can also potentiate with benzo's, however I do not like taking this risk.

I would IV but I am worried about going to go actually acquire them, especially if someone saw me. My drug use must remain top secret or my life in Japan could be over (deportation).
 
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Thirty to sixty milligrams of dextromethorphan is probably about what you'd want to take to simply potentiate. Any more than that, and the dissociative effects will become too pronounced. Unless that's what you're looking for.

Unless you have a pure DXM product (which you may in Japan) keep in mind that any antihistamine it's combined with will also have it's own effect.
 
What DXM product do you recommend? Whatever it is, I'm sure I can get it here, although I've never looked for it before. why does this potentiate opiates? Will the potentiation be significant?
 
Um I am not sure how DXM works exactly but it does Potentiate a little bit but it mostly is used to prevent tolerance from using lol same with low-doses of Ketamine I think works similar. But I do know for a fact Grapefruit juice and Tonic Water for the Quinine in (The Tonic water has Quinine not Grapefruit.) it definitely increases effects and the duration time by like stoping your body from eliminating it as quickly.
 
I wouldn't bother crushing it. Most likely your MS Contin is going to gel up after you take it, they always do this when water is added (unless you are in Australia/New Zealand). Take a tiny portion of the tablet and crush that and add water, if it turns to gel you'll know for sure.
 
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