Oxy for depression

[Sotellme]

Please bear with me as this is my first post and I am not sure if I am even in the correct place.

She's been battling opiate addiction on and off for about 15 years (now 33) Used to be vicadin & sometimes percasets. For awhile She was on Suboxon (9 yrs back) when it was In pill form and eventually was able to stop that, but then consistently gone through phases using and stopping, back and forth, and starting to feel helpless.

She had her son ( 16 mths ago ) they gave her an oxy at the hospital after giving birth.
Hence She fell in love with Oxys, had never tried them and realized that even 4-5 Vicodin would barely be felt.

She stopped multiple times but ONLY bc it's seems they have cracked down HARD In New York. The Drs that used to hand out rx like candy (not oxy, but perks/Vic's) are all only prescribing Tylenol 3!

Street value seems to be >removed price<. and sometimes more. Her tolerance escapes so quickly it's scary (would need at least 2 30 mg Oxys to feel good!! = 60 mg for a 3-4 hr. high.

She has a few questions, hoping some has an opinion/fact on or can relate, solution ?

** factually does your tolerance ever reset to square one, and if so how long does it take?

** is there any other legal medication (or OTC) that would work Proven .. for withdrawals in a similar way that suboxone does? Other than Imodium bc One must say it actually does help a lot with symptoms over all.

- >no prices<

- does anyone know If New York has changed laws that it makes it almost impossible to acquire from a dr now???

- has anyone used any antidepressants that were able to help them with this battle She has everyday bc it just doesn't ever seem to stop, the cravings.... ?

No matter how long She stops for, it's the first thing she thinks about in the morning ....
she is super upset and starting to feel helpless.

 

[Bearlove]

Your talking about a person 'she' who we have no idea about - ask her, if 'she' has a question, 'she' is free to ask.

 

[PotatoMan]

exercise and good diet is the best for battling depression.

A fantastic supplement is 5-HTP for mood, sleep, anxiety and appetite.

Can't help with the Opie detox as I've never been addicted for these very dark reasons. Well and cuz Hydro isn't available here :/

I do not recommend any pharmaceuticals for depression as they'd likely land you addicted at some point.

Try anything herbal before you hit the pills.

 

[BeachBum4u]

She's depressed because she doesn't have her drug of choice, not because her brain chemicals are whacked, IMHO.

 

[PotatoMan]

oh sorry. But I didn't think it'll be HR to suggest to substitute another opie. GL OP

 

[Hellbred]

Personally battled this for a long time. First and foremost, she's going to always have a craving for opiates. I sucked it up and went through the withdrawals and ended up quitting for a year, but I fell back into it recently. Its just always sitting in your head.

The only thing I've found to help is Kratom (pills, or powder). A quick Google search will teach you about what this. It won't help 100% but it helps about 40-50% and anyone going through serious withdrawals will tell you that is a more than welcome percentage. Couple that with really hot baths or showers. Kratom is also natural. You can buy it online if you can't find a shop that sells it locally. It is currently legal to buy and use, but its on the DEA watchlist.

An antidepressant may help with dopamine levels (I hear).. But not withdrawal symptoms, like above.

Oh.. And about the tolerance question. Personally for me, yes. If I go more than a few days without a pill, my tolerance is not even noticeable. Add months or years to that, it would probably feel like its the first time you took one.

I know a girl who continues to take kratom pills every day or every other day to curb her craving. I've only personally used it during withdrawal.

Also, a good doctor who has experience with drugs depleting your brain of dopamine may recommend an antidepressant if she has done long term damage to her brain chemistry...which has nothing really to do with acute opiate withdrawal. So its worth seeking an appointment for, if nothing else to get questions answered. I have done some research online about dopamine depletion with adderall use, but the same could be said for opiate use.

I wouldn't entertain methadone or suboxone treatment unless you've tried everything else. My brothers girlfriend is given subocone. It was a pain to get prescribed, expensive, and now just waits for the next sub refill.

 

[nowheezingthejuice]

I am on opiates for pain relief. I recently asked my doctor how we would go about decreasing my dependency on them as I do find I've found something in them that I didn't think I would find and so I like them very much for reasons other than just pain relief, but until I go for surgery I am taking them. His advice to me was that when the time came to withdraw from them we would be decreasing the dosage little by little until I didn't need them anymore. I'm guessing you may not have access to a doctors script, but there are other opiates you can take to slow the withdrawal. You could also go to a doctor and explain what has happened and see if they could help with a script for methadone. Or the Kratom, as described above by Hellbred.

Personally. I can understand why someone would have a hard time withdrawing from oxy or hydro as it's something I can already tell I'm not looking forward to myself, but I would think there would need to be some type of "distraction" to remove oneself off of these drugs. Whether that "distraction," is a needed pastime that she can immerse herself in fully (something providing profound happiness) or something to help remove the psychological dependence - perhaps Narcotics Anonymous, or in some of the help forums here where she can get support.

 

[bdomihizayka]

Exercise, diet, and vitamins/ minerals/ other supplements are your best answer. Try this for a few MONTHS.... vigorous exercise- not walking one mile but actually SWEAT! Get on a good supplement regime also and always eat a great brain friendly diet!

There is no quick fix or easy pill- even though you're brainwashed into thinking otherwise in America.

Don't be lazy- do this the right way. Pharmacuticals/ antidepressants and benzos should be a LAST RESORT type think like they are in Europe and other countries. You'll only be digging yourself into a hole, and become physically dependant on some nasty psych meds that will only mask your problems temporarily and probably make them worse in the distant future.