Overrated and underrated drugs
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Mystery Brew
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Overrated: Marijuana for recreational use
Underrated: suboxone, marijuana (medical use), kratom
H, the transition from being sick to feeling well it probably the most reinforcing effect in this world.
Underrated: suboxone, marijuana (medical use), kratom
H, the transition from being sick to feeling well it probably the most reinforcing effect in this world.
misspharmacyashley
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over-rated:
cocaine
under-rated:
opiates
shrooms
cocaine
under-rated:
opiates
shrooms
basstoodark
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I definately agree with coke being overrated. It just happens to be extremely habit forming which may be causing the high ratings 
For me i think that alprazolam is overrated and clonazepam is underrated. Alprazolam is so short acting its rediculous.
Also another underrated drug is dxm (dextromethorphan hBr) . Its a really deep drug especially when used properly. If you can get your hands on pure dxm from a vender I reccomend it (if you like dissociatives like K). Also reading the william white faq can make it even more enjoyable --> http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/
For me i think that alprazolam is overrated and clonazepam is underrated. Alprazolam is so short acting its rediculous.
Also another underrated drug is dxm (dextromethorphan hBr) . Its a really deep drug especially when used properly. If you can get your hands on pure dxm from a vender I reccomend it (if you like dissociatives like K). Also reading the william white faq can make it even more enjoyable --> http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/
I am going to add to my last that I posted back in February.
Overrated: Morphine. People mention it and automatically think it is the most intense opiate due to its use during operations, as well as the massive amount of addictions from soldiers. It is possibly the least euphoric opiate for me.
Underrated: Methadone and Suboxone. These potent long-acting opiates are possibly the best value for your dollar. They will keep you from being sick for a lot longer than the amount of another opiate you would get for the same price. I really don't get how some heroin addicts will sell an amount of methadone that would keep them from being sick for a week, so that they could get enough heroin to get the high for a few hours, and keep the withdrawals away for a few more hours after that.
I also think that adderall (d-amp/amp) is underrated. I think that people think that meth is the end-all be-all of stimulants, and don't give prescription amps the credit they deserve.
Mystery Brew
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The L-amp definatly puts the unnecessary edge to it. D-amp is amazing on the other hand (dexedrine)
Renz Envy
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Forbidden fruit concept. Adderall is by far one of the most euphoric drugs I've tried to this day.
Carl_Sagan
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Overrated
Benzos: As stated earlier, these serve well for coming down from stims or potentiating opiates but the appeal ends there for me. The potential for addiction and the horror of withdrawals make these not worth messing with unless you need them for a comedown imho.
Cigarettes: ...the buzz is literally just minor light-headedness, slight nausea, and VERY slight increase in energy. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a nice hand-rolled blend of turkish export every now and again but lets be frank: fags are all about conforming to an image. I guarantee that people who chain-smoke mass-produced pre-made cigs only actually enjoy 3 or 4 of the 30 cigs they smoke every day. Again, potential for addiction and lack of substantial high makes these overrated.
Marijuana: I understand that for many, this is a holy sacrament, but I feel that the counterculture attributes more to this drug than it actually deserves. I used to buy into to that and stay high 24/7, but as many people have expressed before me, it seems that after a year or two of smoking the cali tree high becomes predictable, anxiety-riddled, and just overall unimpressive. That being said, I still think that this is the most practical rec. drug and i usually smoke up before a jam sesh or before spinning out some beats. It also makes shitty mtv bearable when im bored.
Dissasociatives: Many like this class of drugs. I'm not going to knock em too much because i realize they just aren't my thing. I just don't understand how feeling completely disconnected from your body is fun.
Correctly Rated
Opiates: The simple fact that there is little to no bodyload (neurotoxicity, cardiotoxicity, etc) makes these phuckers great. A couple vics, percs or a phat line of oxy and any occasion becomes special. I feel that most educated drug users (the bl community) is quickly realizing the potential of these and therefore I no longer believe they are underrated like they once were. Thumbs up for putting me on cloud 9. Tolerance & potential for addiction are the only downfalls of this drug.
LSD: Everyone loves lucy. For good reason.
Psilocybin: Despite the slightly higher potential for a bad trip (in my experience) booms can be SO much more fulfilling than cid. I don't feel that these are necessarily underrated though.
Underrated
Absinthe: Lucid drunk is the tits yo. Try it.
Hookah: uni bitches love this, i use it to get girls into my room with a chill pretense. Also just good for hanging with friends and putting together some beats
Caffeine (tea, coffee, yerba mate): more euphoria than a cigarette, few adverse health affects, helps me get up for class and early morning rowing practice. Bringing a yerba brew to a morning class is a great convo starter.
Pipe Tobacco: What a nice way to relax.
Overrated
Benzos: As stated earlier, these serve well for coming down from stims or potentiating opiates but the appeal ends there for me. The potential for addiction and the horror of withdrawals make these not worth messing with unless you need them for a comedown imho.
Cigarettes: ...the buzz is literally just minor light-headedness, slight nausea, and VERY slight increase in energy. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a nice hand-rolled blend of turkish export every now and again but lets be frank: fags are all about conforming to an image. I guarantee that people who chain-smoke mass-produced pre-made cigs only actually enjoy 3 or 4 of the 30 cigs they smoke every day. Again, potential for addiction and lack of substantial high makes these overrated.
Marijuana: I understand that for many, this is a holy sacrament, but I feel that the counterculture attributes more to this drug than it actually deserves. I used to buy into to that and stay high 24/7, but as many people have expressed before me, it seems that after a year or two of smoking the cali tree high becomes predictable, anxiety-riddled, and just overall unimpressive. That being said, I still think that this is the most practical rec. drug and i usually smoke up before a jam sesh or before spinning out some beats. It also makes shitty mtv bearable when im bored.
Dissasociatives: Many like this class of drugs. I'm not going to knock em too much because i realize they just aren't my thing. I just don't understand how feeling completely disconnected from your body is fun.
Correctly Rated
Opiates: The simple fact that there is little to no bodyload (neurotoxicity, cardiotoxicity, etc) makes these phuckers great. A couple vics, percs or a phat line of oxy and any occasion becomes special. I feel that most educated drug users (the bl community) is quickly realizing the potential of these and therefore I no longer believe they are underrated like they once were. Thumbs up for putting me on cloud 9. Tolerance & potential for addiction are the only downfalls of this drug.
LSD: Everyone loves lucy. For good reason.
Psilocybin: Despite the slightly higher potential for a bad trip (in my experience) booms can be SO much more fulfilling than cid. I don't feel that these are necessarily underrated though.
Underrated
Absinthe: Lucid drunk is the tits yo. Try it.
Hookah: uni bitches love this, i use it to get girls into my room with a chill pretense. Also just good for hanging with friends and putting together some beats
Caffeine (tea, coffee, yerba mate): more euphoria than a cigarette, few adverse health affects, helps me get up for class and early morning rowing practice. Bringing a yerba brew to a morning class is a great convo starter.
Pipe Tobacco: What a nice way to relax.
treezy z
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overrated: coke. it's not that it's a bad high, but the price for that high is ridiculous. it's simply not good enough to pay a bunch of money for a few hours of the high,
benzos. some people love klonopins and bars, i don't get high on them really but if i eat one too many i tend to get arrested.
underated: dxm. one of the best drugs out there, people hate on it cuz: "you're drinking cough syrup to get high?"
suboxone. if you haven't done opiates in a while these provide great band for the buck.
benzos. some people love klonopins and bars, i don't get high on them really but if i eat one too many i tend to get arrested.
underated: dxm. one of the best drugs out there, people hate on it cuz: "you're drinking cough syrup to get high?"
suboxone. if you haven't done opiates in a while these provide great band for the buck.
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"Well worth the risk"?! I'll just try to discard your comment as unthoughtful babble expressed in a drug induced state of acute mania. I don't know how long you've been into this, but I've had a good friend die off the stuff and I'm sure I'm not alone with that experience on bluelight. I'm saying, not only is recommending iv heroin to anyone (which I'd like to point out: you did) the exact opposite of what this site is about, but also it seems ignorant towards those who died and their families who shed tears over them. I think they'd strongly disagree to your statement and so will a lot of heroin users.
If anything is underrated about heroin then it's the intensity of desparation that it can induce in a user when he is without it.
I know I sound like a twat and there have probably been tons of other posts I could bitch about right now, but the propaganda machinery with heroin really seem to be working from both sides. The users are always glorifying it, the longer they've been at it, the more glorious they make the rush out to be. From my understanding, what we witness here is gradual reprogramming of your brain by the substance, there's probably a lot of better things for you out there, you just can't feel them anymore.
TheLostBoys
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I wish I could say the same thing about Adderall, it did nothing for me except for high blood pressure & made me go to sleep after the 3rd or 4th time trying it.
TheLostBoys
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Ive never done heroin so I dont know what to expect but I have drank alcohol for many years before quitting & everyone knows that alcohol & cigarettes kill more people every year than all other drugs combines. As far how much despair & tragedy heroin brings to communities & family's, so does alcohol & other drugs so I dont see why you are pointing out one drug, in this case it being heroin.
Movies glamorize alcohol & cigarettes like theres no tomorrow so I just cant see how your argument can withstand.
verso
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I don't think that heroin is worth trying at all. In fact, I tell everyone that I regret trying heroin even though I haven't yet developed a real serious problem.
It can go only one of two ways, really... you'll find a place for it in your life away and apart from all the more important things (family, friends, work...) and you'll use it both only occasionally and responsibly, or, you'll develop a real serious habit that all but ruins your life entirely. So, that's one hell of a chance to take... and that's why I regret every trying it in the first place. What could have been... *shudders*
It can go only one of two ways, really... you'll find a place for it in your life away and apart from all the more important things (family, friends, work...) and you'll use it both only occasionally and responsibly, or, you'll develop a real serious habit that all but ruins your life entirely. So, that's one hell of a chance to take... and that's why I regret every trying it in the first place. What could have been... *shudders*
purple_cloud
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^ verso, would that apply to opiates in general? Because there certainly are ones I prefer to heroin.
Carl_Sagan
Bluelighter
I'm going to have to agree with the above posters regarding H. Blowing the shit is one thing, but to recommend IV is going against the harm-reduction nature of this forum. I have seen far too many friends destroy their lives after making the jump to the needle.
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alquimista
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SURE!!!!!I dont know in your country, but I do believe your drugs a piece of expensive and totally shit.Northern spain is famous for their ability making speed.If you think 5 days without needing to sleep is good for your body you are totally fucked up.Come over and try real speed, not what you are talking about..damn!
Overrated: COCAINE!!! Both hard and soft. Either way, you spend a TON of money for a BRIEF high which has who-knows-what-else in it. Plus, have any of you guys SEEN the nasty chemicals (and processing) used to make blow from the coca plant? Euw.
overrated 2: Less qualified on this one, but IME OXYCODONE sucked ass! Maybe it was some sort of chemical reaction with the rx speed in my system, but it made me nervousy and on edge. NOT how one would expect any opiate to make them feel...right?
Underrated: NITROUS! Have any of you actually DONE a whippit while ROLLING while you are also being ORALLY pleasured?! Nuff said.
PS- overrated 3 is..... ALCOHOL! Makes people act belligerent, loud and obnoxious. It also makes you fat, girls. I do enjoy showing up to parties/bars sober, though, (once all other patrons are FUBAR), and playing "drunk whisperer" with them ....
overrated 2: Less qualified on this one, but IME OXYCODONE sucked ass! Maybe it was some sort of chemical reaction with the rx speed in my system, but it made me nervousy and on edge. NOT how one would expect any opiate to make them feel...right?
Underrated: NITROUS! Have any of you actually DONE a whippit while ROLLING while you are also being ORALLY pleasured?! Nuff said.
PS- overrated 3 is..... ALCOHOL! Makes people act belligerent, loud and obnoxious. It also makes you fat, girls. I do enjoy showing up to parties/bars sober, though, (once all other patrons are FUBAR), and playing "drunk whisperer" with them ....
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Overrated:
Alcohol. Compared to most drugs, it's quite unhealthy. It makes you dizzy, uncoordinated, obnoxious, and dumb. The social damage alcohol causes is terrible. I've had enjoyable times on alcohol before, but every time would have been better with a different drug.
Oxycodone. Sure, I feel good on it, but nowhere near as good as opioid users tell me I should feel. If I want to just chill out, I don't need drugs for that. Maybe I just prefer a different sort of euphoria.
Underrated:
Kratom. I know this might sound weird, given my criticism of oxycodone, but I really enjoy kratom. I feel relaxed and energized, and love to socialize or engage in physical activity. Many people criticize it, but I think that's more so because they aren't attuned to the effects. Dosing and nausea also suck, but that can be an effective anti-habituation mechanism.
Alcohol. Compared to most drugs, it's quite unhealthy. It makes you dizzy, uncoordinated, obnoxious, and dumb. The social damage alcohol causes is terrible. I've had enjoyable times on alcohol before, but every time would have been better with a different drug.
Oxycodone. Sure, I feel good on it, but nowhere near as good as opioid users tell me I should feel. If I want to just chill out, I don't need drugs for that. Maybe I just prefer a different sort of euphoria.
Underrated:
Kratom. I know this might sound weird, given my criticism of oxycodone, but I really enjoy kratom. I feel relaxed and energized, and love to socialize or engage in physical activity. Many people criticize it, but I think that's more so because they aren't attuned to the effects. Dosing and nausea also suck, but that can be an effective anti-habituation mechanism.
Midazle
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Agreed. I take Klonopin for severe muscle tension (from a messed up disc in my neck, it is HELL) and anxiety so I can sleep. When you are having bad anxiety Benzo's are WONDER drugs and I think they have an amazing purpose in short term anxiety relief or long term if its like 1 klonopin at night (I take 1mg at night). But the withdrawal is hell, worse than opiates...my doctor stopped me cold turkey from Oxycodone because her partner at her practice thought I was drug seeking (I called this fool to pass a message and told him not to prescribe me anything), anyways I ended up with some pretty shitty withdrawal effects. I went to see my psychiatrist who I usually see for ADHD and she felt so bad and put me on 2.5mg of klonopin. No way in hell I am taking that much! I would rather be dependent on like 2 OC 40's a day and go cold turkey than come off a 2.5mg klonopin dependancy...I've heard the horror stories of xanax withdrawal and with klonopin given the half life it would seam to be on part with comparing Hydrocodone withdrawal to Methadone withdrawal.
Morphine I totally agree. No one sees it as a "fun" opiate around here though. I was curious about people's reactions when I mentioned I was on Morphine and Oxycodone on separate occasions and when I said Morphine everyone was like "Shit dude...you must be dying, thats some stronnnnggggg stuff"when in reality 10mg of oxy with a benzos is miles better for pain, at least for me.
I had a friend who was a DXM JUNKY! Haha he used it with alcohol to keep his tolerance down, me and him used to sit in class and I would talk about the crazy pharmacology of it and he would go try it lmao.
Cocaine is totally overrated. I could see it as one of those one time things but yeah. Oxycodone is only overrated from OxyContin which has raped its reputation for everything legit and illicit. You say Percocet, a whole room screams "Oxycotton!!!!!!!!1111" like a bunch of 4 year olds who can't pronounce "Contin" to save there life (am I the only one who gets bothered by that?). Nitrous is underrated I agree, I never thought it would be common but I live near a big party campus and I keep hearing about these massive parties with like garbage trucks blocking off an area and everyone just fucked up on Nitrous, Ether, Coke, oxy, etc. I was so surprised...