Overdose victim's body allegedly dropped near dumpster

Yea the cops have to try and arrest someone right?? I mean, thats what they are paid for right? Its sure as hell not to serve and protect, more like arrest and harrass.
 
'medicine cabinet' said:
Yea the cops have to try and arrest someone right?? I mean, thats what they are paid for right? Its sure as hell not to serve and protect, more like arrest and harrass.
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I don't hate cops and I'm not sure if your sarcastic here, merely sharing my experience. They did confiscate our bubbler :(

Cops are just people with jobs and like all people some suck and some dont
 
Ehhhh kinda sarcastic, but the times ive been involved in od situations, (sad but true if you use long enough you will be a witness or it will be you oding) when the cops show up they could care less about the persons welfare who is oding and just try to build a case on someone. The one time i actually od'd and had to have the medics called (was actually by a fellow bler, wont name him but he did the right thing!) The cops were too busy searching my half passed out body and my companion for the medics to get to me, once they spent about five mins searching and my boy yelling wtf!! Let the medics in he might be dying! Or something to that extent. They probably would have arrested me for poss of drug paraphenilia but i had/have a needle exchange card that makes me imune from prosecution for needles cookers ect. I guess thats why i dont like cops being involved in od situations. Plus it may be the fact heroin has been epidemic here for decades.
 
Backwoods, are there a lot of forests down in Georgia?

Really, this is shameful. So are laws that prevent people from calling for help in an OD situation. OD's can be easily treated, why should people be scared to call for help in order to save someone else's life?
 
As far as I read this place over there has the good samaritan law, which from what I recall means those calling for help wont get implicated so they shouldnt have been scared of calling for assistance, I might have some of that wrong, just from a a quick scan over the article. It sounds like the mum was a piece of shit and even though the others were under the influence I just cant fathom how they could care about drug charges and think of dumping a body like that and not calling for an ambo or atleast driving the person to a hospital.
 
just so there's no misunderstanding, that law protects corporations from being sued.
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I don't know the laws, but that sounds like an American one to me. Even if I'd get prosecuted because I'm not a corporation (or a corrupt banker) I'd still call a fucking ambulance to save someone's life, especially a friend!
 
opi8 said:
Backwoods, are there a lot of forests down in Georgia?

Really, this is shameful. So are laws that prevent people from calling for help in an OD situation. OD's can be easily treated, why should people be scared to call for help in order to save someone else's life?
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Lol, yes...covered with forest...though there they aren't called forests, they are the woods. The whole state is woods...exception would be is there is quite a bit of swamp in the southern part of the state (well, which is actually woods where the ground is covered with water) and the coast line. But even at the coast a lot of it isn't regular beach land but marshes, well, and a few yard away, woods again! :D

Don't you know, the state pastime is hunting-toting a gun through them woods and shootin at anything that moves!! (I'm teasing...that is only somewhat true...ok ....no really)
 
missmeyet? said:
Don't you know, the state pastime is hunting-toting a gun through them woods and shootin at anything that moves!! (I'm teasing...that is only somewhat true...ok ....no really)
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Oh, I thought that was a nation wide thing. Kidding, as I know some yanks take offence to that. I probably would too.
 
Back when I was 18 I was rolling at some crazy red neck biker dude's house who was a friend of a friend and as I was peaking on the mda he hands me my drink and tells me "drink up because if you die I'm going to have to drive around the corner and throw your body in a dumpster" and he wasn't joking. Thankfully the false sense of security from how hard I was rolling prevented me from getting freaked out by what he said.
 
23536 said:
Very funny.

Later on when I'm less busy I'll compile a list of states with 911 immunity laws, then try to turn it into a color-coded map. Unless such a thing already exists (I couldn't find it). I think everyone should always call 911 regardless of the potential consequences, but people may be more motivated to do so if they know they're legally covered.
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^ please try to do that if you could numbers
 
I've been in this situation 5-6 times....It's really scary because if someone isn't breathing, there's not much time to react!

If I don't have Naloxone on hand and somebody is not breathing I'll do chest compressions first....a lot of the time the person will regain color and start breathing on their own. If that doesn't work, right away I'll call 911...

Even if you do call 911, if they don't get there within5 minutes or so, the person will have brain damage or die anyway....It's best to do CPR while you're waiting for the ambulance so that you can at least try to get some oxygen flowing....In borderline cases, the chest compressions work wonders...but if they're too far gone there's nothing you can do! It's fucking terrifying...

One time, my girlfriend was locked in a gas station bathroom with a metal door shooting heroin. After 5 minutes I got scared and asked the clerk to open the door. she couldn't find the key right away and the way this door opened was outward so it would have been almost impossible to kick in...She found the key and my girlfriend was sitting on the toilet slumped over turning blue. she managed to put the needle and drugs away but she was fading fast...I threw her on the floor and started chest compressions...The clerk called the ambulance and my girlfriend woke up just as they arrived! They wanted to take her in but she refused to go....that was one of the scariest moments of my life....If she had dies I would have had to kill myself....How do you explain to someones family that their 22 year old daughter is dead from the drugs that you just bought and gave to them?!

I still feel sick to my stomach thinking about it....
 
BlueHues said:
I've been in this situation 5-6 times....It's really scary because if someone isn't breathing, there's not much time to react!

If I don't have Naloxone on hand and somebody is not breathing I'll do chest compressions first....a lot of the time the person will regain color and start breathing on their own. If that doesn't work, right away I'll call 911...

Even if you do call 911, if they don't get there within5 minutes or so, the person will have brain damage or die anyway....It's best to do CPR while you're waiting for the ambulance so that you can at least try to get some oxygen flowing....In borderline cases, the chest compressions work wonders...but if they're too far gone there's nothing you can do! It's fucking terrifying...

One time, my girlfriend was locked in a gas station bathroom with a metal door shooting heroin. After 5 minutes I got scared and asked the clerk to open the door. she couldn't find the key right away and the way this door opened was outward so it would have been almost impossible to kick in...She found the key and my girlfriend was sitting on the toilet slumped over turning blue. she managed to put the needle and drugs away but she was fading fast...I threw her on the floor and started chest compressions...The clerk called the ambulance and my girlfriend woke up just as they arrived! They wanted to take her in but she refused to go....that was one of the scariest moments of my life....If she had dies I would have had to kill myself....How do you explain to someones family that their 22 year old daughter is dead from the drugs that you just bought and gave to them?!

I still feel sick to my stomach thinking about it....
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I'm thankful to have a bunch of naloxone vials so that if anyone ever OD'd I could bring them out of it. I try to stay many miles away from heroin as often as possible.
 
Naloxone is a life-saver and should be available to everyone...They had a program in my area a few years ago where you had to take a class and get certified and then they'd give you a few vials of it...So it was kind of a hassle...I had a few vials on hand at one point but they got lost somehow...would have come in handy because I had a few people OD on me after that....I have brought people out of it with CPR quite a few times now, but there were other times I had to call 911!

If someone is ODing and you have no idea what to do, you should just call 911 regardless of what the consequences may be!

I think a lot of people don't really know how to spot the early signs of someone ODing, because it may look like they're just nodding out....I'm hyper-vigilant about it though and I always check on people....

Sometimes people are just really fucked up, breathing slowly and not getting enough oxygen...it's a really fine line. I've seen 911 called only to have the person wake up before the ambulance arrived, so I understand people not wanting to call unless it's absolutely necessary.

I think a good rule of thumb is...If you can't rouse someone out of it by yelling, shaking, cold water etc. you're better off calling for help...When you're brain's not getting oxygen every second counts!

It's a fine line though, I think if people were better educated on exactly what happens during an OD and could spot the signs, they'd no how to proceed in those situations...
 
BlueHues said:
Naloxone is a life-saver and should be available to everyone...They had a program in my area a few years ago where you had to take a class and get certified and then they'd give you a few vials of it...So it was kind of a hassle...I had a few vials on hand at one point but they got lost somehow...would have come in handy because I had a few people OD on me after that....I have brought people out of it with CPR quite a few times now, but there were other times I had to call 911!
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Naloxone degrades fairly quickly so it's likely even if you found your old vials, they would likely be expired (and actually no good anymore as the naloxone breaks down within about 6-12 months after being produced).
 
When I OD and some up before the medics came, I was fully functional, the police forced me to go. It was either go with the medics or the police, I chose the medics. I pushed their rolly bed thing out of the way and refused all treatment. Upon arrival they forced me to go on the bed to which I exclaimed "Ya Ya mush little doggies" *makes whip noises*

Most expensive useless thing ever, I was absolutely fine. The cops said I had to go our I'd be arrested for all the pipes in the room and resisting. It was really fucked up.
 
^^ happened to me as well. Came out of it when the lights were pulling up. Because I didn't get the shot I was at least messed up for the meet n greet with the doctors. I swear if you want to be treated the nastiest way possible and with the least amount of respect, be high at the hospital.. It was amazing how obviously different they treat you.
 
^aint that the truth. You ever want to feel worse about your drug problem talk to 99% of medical "professionals" andthey will do it for ya.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
^ please try to do that if you could numbers
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I compiled the data from the article I just posted:

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Might not be complete. More info here:

http://lawatlas.org/preview?dataset=good-samaritan-overdose-laws
 
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