Overcoming Shyness Without Alcohol

[Thomas Gabriel]

Hey guys. Here's the situation. When I talk to people in large gatherings, I clam up and lose my cool. If I drink alcohol, this causes a huge change, and alcohol + xanax + caffiene makes me the fucking man. I love it. The catch is, I am a very serious about bodybuilding, and getting wasted just isn't an option. It's also innapropriate to be wasted in some situations.

Is there a drug out there that can help? What I am hoping for is to gain self-esteem from being the man on drugs, and eventually not needing the drugs.

So far I have looked into Tramadol, and people say it is quite pro-social. Shouldn't be to much of a problem for me to get a hold of if anyone recommends it.

Next thing I'm looking at is GHB as that would allow me to get drunk without plumetting my testosterone levels. That will be a fair bit harder to get a hold of though.

 

[McFly]

I used to be pretty shy aswell and used drink/drugs to relax myself a but its not the way to go imo. Whats gonna happen when you cant take something before going out or whatever? Its how i would imagine a serious dependency problem would start. I found using a self confidence self help mp3 (brian traceys science of self confidence iirc) i got from a dubious website did far more for me than booze or drugs did. Also finding people i was comfortable with was very important to me so i knew i could be myself and that was enough but it took time.

If you really want to try go teh drug route 1 or 2 Trams did it for me, but watch your booze intake, i would advise against this tho, treat the disease not the symptoms man

 

[the_ketaman]

I find tramadol a drug where I just want to nod out and be alone although myself and chubba75(I think it was him) are the only 2 people Ive heard of getting downer effects.

Be careful with GHB as the addiction potential is alot higher than alcohol and from what ive heard G has a really harsh physical withdrawl.

All in all If used sparingly the two drugs are pretty safe, just reasearch first and take it slow. And please dont ever do meth, it is the most social drug there is(in the first 2 days/nights) but you will ruin your hard earned body....sorry I could go on about that or ages but I wont, just please dont do it.

 

[uNhoLeee]

antidepressants?

 

[bob123]

I find tramadol a drug where I just want to nod out and be alone although myself and chubba75(I think it was him) are the only 2 people Ive heard of getting downer effects.

Be careful with GHB as the addiction potential is alot higher than alcohol and from what ive heard G has a really harsh physical withdrawl.

All in all If used sparingly the two drugs are pretty safe, just reasearch first and take it slow. And please dont ever do meth, it is the most social drug there is(in the first 2 days/nights) but you will ruin your hard earned body....sorry I could go on about that or ages but I wont, just please dont do it.

speed would make a shy person more anxious

 

[El_Toro]

alprazolam + gbl

 

[MethaContin]

Stick to the BENZOS WITHOUT THE ALCOHOL, just maybe take the xanax dose at a higher level and you wont need the alcohol...........Xanax is one of the best 'social drugs' because when your on it you can talk to ANYBOPDY calmly and be LOOKING FUCKED UP

 

[Ashley]

speed would make a shy person more anxious

Not necessarily.

 

[Titus]

I have the same problem and take wellbutrin and klonopin.

I think if your don't like drugs and are looking for a 'cure' the anser is in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.

Good luck.

I've struggled with this issue for over 26 years, it's gotten much less problematic but has not gone away (I have never committed to the talk therapy ie. Cog behav therapy in any way though).

 

[maximumstrength]

I used to be the same way i sas diagnosed with social anxiety disorder. after trying a bung of meds I finally found ones that work. 45mgs of remeron and 1mg of clonopin a day. just make sure NOT to dring while on any anti depressent meds it can make u suicidal

 

[drunken_etard]

if u have a social anxiety problem GHB will only be a short term answer. Shur while high on G u might felll better and more sociable. But do u really want to have to rely on drugs such as GHB to cure your problem. In the end this is just going to make you an addict( GHB addiction is all anxiety, yuck). I would go to the doctor and get druga that are not so Euphoric but still works..BENZO'S

 

[maximumstrength]

I dont think she is looking for a way to get fucked up and be social just a way to not be shy without drinking. I think GHB is a horrible thing to offer

 

[Thomas Gabriel]

Stick to the BENZOS WITHOUT THE ALCOHOL, just maybe take the xanax dose at a higher level and you wont need the alcohol...........Xanax is one of the best 'social drugs' because when your on it you can talk to ANYBOPDY calmly and be LOOKING FUCKED UP

Ahh that's the problem though man. My tolerance to xanax is already kind of high just from theraputic use. I can't really use it at levels that would make me more social, because then my tolerance would get out of control.

 

[brutus]

I believe you have some sort of anxiety. You should probably go to a doctor instead of self treating yourself. Eventually you will find some how to cope with it. Klonopin works wonders for my GAD.

 

[StaffWriter]

Benzos or opiates. I overcame social anxiety disorder through the illicit use of opiates but after a 10 year habit, the rest of my life is ruined. The price we pay...

 

[-=navel=-]

Benzos or opiates. I overcame social anxiety disorder through the illicit use of opiates but after a 10 year habit, the rest of my life is ruined. The price we pay...

nicely put.

when i got clean after a hardcore methadone kick.. i wass anxious all the time, and suddenly it dawned me.. that's the reason i like this stuff so much.

oh and if opiates help you get over your anxiety, go for that, because your body is able to go on without it.. and your soul will come back too (so they say)
times will differ from person to person.

if you rely on benzo's for anxiety relief (for which lorazepam is the best, both studies and my own experience have shown)
for years and years and years, and you'll start forging scripts, buying them online, off the street, in bulk, but someday the hammer will fall, just like with opiates, but if the hammer falls at a bad place or time, opiates you will survive, benzo's not.

and i've tried both AND the ghb/gbl way, which makes you a raging addict after while, and you'll do things under the influence of this stuff that will make the most hardened dungeon mistress blush. anyway: try light opiates. go slow, and you can live with it for the rest of your life. the rest will just cause "things" where "things" stand for a lot of ways i which your life will become un-liveable, or you'll die. not to scare it's just my opinion.

Chris

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

People who think alcohol make them more socially adept usually don't realize people are laughing at them, not with them.

On that note, stimulants can work wonders but be careful not to do too much or be inexperienced when you do it, then people will just wonder when you will shut up. Less is more in regards to stimulants in social situations.

Best thing is to just get over it though. Eventually you'll get over it and that'll be all the help you need.

 

[burn out]

if you rely on benzo's for anxiety relief (for which lorazepam is the best, both studies and my own experience have shown)
for years and years and years, and you'll start forging scripts, buying them online, off the street, in bulk, but someday the hammer will fall, just like with opiates, but if the hammer falls at a bad place or time, opiates you will survive, benzo's not.

as far as i know there has never been a recorded death from benzo withdrawal. of course, i am sure someone somewhere has died from it, whether directly or from having a seizure and passing out and hitting their head but you are vastly overstating the risk.

 

[Zubi420]

opiates work wonders. but not too good for long term. alcohol with moderation maybe 3 or 4 drinks every other day with low dose benzos is good plus caffeine so ur not sleepy and become more pro-social instead of being totaly sedated(heroin tends to KILL anxiety but make u sleepy so we dont want something like that). ssri's dont work for shit (ok for mild-moderate depression but it takes a crazy long time to work)


If u havent already tried benzos alone, see if they work. for me they didnt work (except for unreasonably high doses). alcohol for me works pretty good but its kinda expensive for me. i say alcohol and caffeine, but only every other day. or maximum 3 drinks a day.

 

[TDogUSA]

social anxiety

First off, MANY people have died from benzo withdrawal, its just as dangerous as withdrawing from alcohol. Never just stop taking a benzo, talk to a doctor first and see what they have to say.
Second, I have suffered from social anxiety my whole life. It has gotten me diagnosed with depression and given me a huge addiction problem. I have tried just about everything to "relieve" my anxiety enough for me to be comfortable in social situations, including doctor prescribed anti-depressants and benzos. Neither has worked, and its been 10 years since i was first put on meds. I have also tried self-medicating, which has gotten me into a lot of trouble and a big addiction problem with legal and illegal substances. The drug that helped me the most was of course oxycontin, but that leads to even bigger problems, and no doctor would prescribe it for anxiety anyways. I dont know what to do at this point, so Ive been reading these boards looking to see what has helped others with there social anxiety. I am looking to see what legal prescription drugs people have had success with or whatever else like herbal remedies (which I have also tried) or supplements. I have been reading about LYRICA, I have never been on this, could this help my social anxiety? And what else is out there thats legal that I could try or is there any combination drug/herb/etc. Any info or personal experiences will be helpful