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Opioids Out of Oxy - How to taper with what I have.

556m4

556m4

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I need some help guys. I know i'm stupid for getting myself in this situation but here it is I've been doing about 210 mg of oxy a day now i"m out and cannot find any more. Yesterday I did about 180 mg and was ok. Heres what I have to work with 3 8mg hydromorphone tabs, about 7 500mg hydrocodone pills, and one of the new Oxycontin OP 40's. My route of administration is oral and I have until about 8 tonight until I start feeling sick my question is I dont want to get high just not sick. Will the OP oxycontin 40 take my withdrawls away so im not in agony I should be able to find some within the next day or so. Since the hydromorphone has such shitty oral bio availbility does snorting it introduce more of the drug into your system. I also have about 4 8mg suboxones but that is a last ditch effort i react horribly to it and it really fucks with me what would you do if You were in my shoes. sorry about spelling i'm kinda wigged out right know. Your replies are appreciated.
 
wait until you are sick, then take less than 1mg of suboxone and work up from there every 30 minutes until you feel fine.
Then taper down and take a break to let your tolerance settle.
 
^This. I would hold onto those hydromorphone and hydrocodone pills for now, the suboxone is going to be a lot easier to dose yourself down with.
 
You are likely experiencing bad effects from Suboxone from the dose either being taken too soon after other opiates or being taken at too high of a dose. muvolution's post above is great advice. Just take what is necessary. Even if you decide to use the other opiates to taper, which will undoubtedly be difficult, the basic advice of taking only what you need to not be sick and tapering from that amount is still key.
 
^ i would say the suboxone as well, but i would probably take all of the agonists i had so i wouldnt be tempted and set myself back....but it would also be "shit, i have these left so why not try and get high one last time" and parachute the oc40 and hydrocodones and rail the dilaudid....but thats just me.
 
I know you think you have a HUGE habit, but I came off of ~120 mg of oxymorphone/ day (which via my roa was equal to about 500mg Morphine or OC) and I only needed about 1.5 mg of bupe to hold me.
Just wait until you are sick, like properly sick, and take 1/8th of a suboxone (sublingually as they are intended) or nasally if you want a slightly higher BA (going this route will make the subs last longer - this could be important for you) If you go nasal, start with like .75mg.

I know it sounds like a tiny bit to hold you, but try it and if you still feel a bit sick, try taking .5mg more in half-hour to hour increments until you feel better. I would say that most people max out at about 2-3mg of bupe/ day no matter how big of a habit they have. Any more is just overkill.

I would save the full agonists for another day, far down the line when they will actually do something for you.

Beware of mixing bupe and full agonists as the OD risk is greater. Also, be very careful when mixing bupe with benzos.
 
^I agree with what your saying, but just becuase 1.5mg of bupe worked for you doesn't mean it will for him.

I would start out with 4mg's of bupe and work my way down to 2. The taper down to .5mg's.

Then I would use your vicodins for when you quit that to ease any additional pain. But that's just me.

I think the op said he just need to stay good untli he could find more. So in that case I would just take 4mg's of sub a day.

Peace
 
I didn't say to stop at 1.5mgs, I said to start with 1 mg and go up every half hour or so to find out what the OP needs.
He very well may need 4 mgs, but it is more than likely he can get away with less, which would obviously be better in the long term, but I totally know what you are sayin Hydrocron.

Everyone is different -find out what works.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I found enough to taper my dose down, when i get down to like 90mg a day i'm going to jump on subs for like 5 days and get off this shit. This is like the 3rd time i've been hooked on this shit and i'm tired of it.
 
I would just do a little at a time man. Just enough for it to be barable.
If you're cool with IV, even if you're not, maybe IV'ing some of those Dillys (since it's certainly the best BA (BY FAR) for those things). Check it, IV'ing gets you 100% and thats a lot better then sniffing and getting 50% or whatever it is, basically it's like you're throwing 4 of those away (of shipping them to me ;)) ..HAH.. Well IMO I think that'd be best, because it's almost like you have twice of what you actually have of what is actually IVable. From what you have, and what's available I would just do the bare minimum to keep yourself comfy and tolerate the WD.. I find Hot showers (and when you can't shower, run your hands under HOT HOT water and it feels, well provides LOADS of relief, TRY IT! Exercise (last thing you want to do, but it certainly helps bro). There is like this ICONIC post that someone put up about how to deal with WD and it's like the Addiction Bible for survival (metaphorically speaking, of course).

Hope the best man.

Take care.
 
^haha the pharmacist, i'm sure you do like IVing dilauladids. But that doesn't mean the poster should start Iving when he's trying to quit.

If he did start iving dilauladids he would definently not stop.
 
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