Out of control on magic mushrooms

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http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/local/news/out-of-control-on-magic-mushrooms/3914727/

Peter de Graaf | 25th May 2010

A Northland teenager became so psychotic after taking "magic mushrooms" he had to be strapped to a hospital bed by his hands and feet.

The incident has prompted police to issue a warning about the dangers of taking the mushrooms, which have been "popping up all over the place" due to the recent rain and mild temperatures.

Acting Senior Sergeant Peter Masters said the Kerikeri 19-year-old consumed the mushrooms on May 15 and was taken first to Bay of Islands Hospital in Kawakawa, then transferred to Whangarei.

He was "out of control" in hospital and had to be cuffed to the bed by his hands and feet to stop him harming himself or others.

Mr Masters said the mushrooms' active ingredient, psilocybin, was a class A controlled drug with a chemical make-up similar to that of LSD.

Cannabis was by comparison only class C, which illustrated the seriousness of magic mushrooms.

"I don't know why people do it. Why take the risk? You can end up psychotic, with mental health problems for life, or dead."

Over the past few weeks, Far North police had fielded several complaints about people searching for mushrooms in private gardens, including one from a property owner who had called into the Kerikeri station just yesterday.

Mr Masters urged anyone who saw people "fossicking in their gardens" for the fungi to call police immediately.

"We're keen to get on top of this," he said. A Whangarei Hospital spokeswoman said the teenager had been treated and discharged.

John Fountain, a medical toxicologist at Otago University's National Poisons Centre, said an overdose of magic mushrooms could make people "quite unwell" with seizures and toxic syndromes.

The problem with mushrooms was that it was difficult to control the dose: "One day you might get the desired dose, the next you might get a lot more."

Users could also do things while hallucinating that they normally wouldn't, such as trying to fly from a building, but the greatest risk came from picking the wrong kind of mushroom.

The death cap mushroom, for example, looked similar to the untrained eye but could cause severe toxicity and even death.

"There are some very poisonous mushrooms out there. Our advice is to be very cautious and not collect any mushrooms unless you really know what you're doing and are able to correctly identify them."

The centre was fielding one mushroom-related call a day now mushroom season had started.

Ross Bell, executive director of the New Zealand Drug Foundation, said the magic mushrooms were neither addictive nor toxic, but the effects depended on the dose, which was hard to control.

"The risks are around what the hallucination is going to make you do - people can freak out quite a lot - and that you can think you have a magic mushroom, but instead you're ingesting a highly toxic wild mushroom."

Mr Bell advised staying with anyone who was hallucinating and calling an ambulance.




In 2007, heart transplant recipient Te Awhina Hawera, 23, from Hamilton, died after consuming magic mushrooms.
 
Cannabis was by comparison only class C, which illustrated the seriousness of magic mushrooms.

"I don't know why people do it. Why take the risk? You can end up psychotic, with mental health problems for life, or dead."


Because it's common knowledge that the more illegal a drug is the more unsafe it is. :\





Users could also do things while hallucinating that they normally wouldn't, such as trying to fly from a building

I believe this is the most cliche and hilarious argument against psychedelics in history

The death cap mushroom, for example, looked similar to the untrained eye but could cause severe toxicity and even death.
"There are some very poisonous mushrooms out there. Our advice is to be very cautious and not collect any mushrooms unless you really know what you're doing and are able to correctly identify them."

Cant argue there
 
About 95% of that article is so fucking terrible it's untold. Some of those soundbites from "people in the know"... Jeebus Christicles :|
But it is good that it highlights the difficulty and danger in trying to pick Mushrooms when you've no idea what they look like.
 
This article is made of shit.

You ever notice that, in many news reports of events where alcohol was involved, unless it was something like drunken driving and getting into an accident, the use of alcohol is only briefly mentioned within a sentence or two, whereas with any event where most any other substance was involved, most of the report focuses on the substance?
 
Users could also do things while hallucinating that they normally wouldn't, such as trying to fly from a building

They are still throwing around this stupid myth :p . This is one really shitty article. In fact it reads more like a letter from DARE then a actual newspaper article. It's incorrect and brings out every stupid myth about magic mushrooms that there is almost.

I guess we had better stick to the safe legal drugs alcohol and tobacco 8)
 
hahaha i love how there are only 3 lines about the kid in the entire article, and all they say is he went crazy and had to be strapped down.
 
Ross Bell, executive director of the New Zealand Drug Foundation, said the magic mushrooms were neither addictive nor toxic, but the effects depended on the dose, which was hard to control.

How can he say this and still be in favor of having them illegal? The only way the dose is hard to control is because people go out and pick them because they can't buy em.



Users could also do things while hallucinating that they normally wouldn't, such as trying to fly from a building
I believe this is the most cliche and hilarious argument against psychedelics in history

Actually, the ban on magic mushrooms in Holland was because a French girl took some and jumped of off a bridge. Now, I don't know whether it was because she thought she could fly or became suicidal due to a bad trip, but she jumped off none-the-less ..
 
anyone gone skydiving on shrooms or lsd before? now that would be a blast.

Closest thing I ever did was ski on the comeup of an LSD trip.

This article is so un-based on fact, it's not even funny. Yes, people freak out on mushies, just like they'd freak out and start a barfight while drunk. In fact, I'm sure more people kill or hurt others while drinking belligerently than when they inadvertently take too much psilocybin.

And I love how at the very end of the article, there's a random blurb about a guy with a heart transplant that had a heart attack on shrooms. What I want to know is...how is that relevant in any way to the kid freaking out, other than the fact that he took the same stuff?

This isn't journalism. They're not reporting facts. They're puppeting DARE propaganda after they give us a MINIMAL amount of information about the kid, no facts on mushrooms are really checked. The only good thing about this article is that it warns people to not try picking them without knowledge on mycology, since there really are some wild mushrooms that look like psilocybin mushrooms but are in fact deadly poisonous. I thought mainstream American news reporting sucked dick, but I guess New Zealand really isn't any better.
 
I find it interesting how psychedelic drug article's seem to be popping up all over recently. More and more people are becoming curious.

As for the article, i can see that happening. Especially when your in a hospital on Mushrooms, it would feel like a mental institution or prison to the person, the bland walls, metal bars, medical equipment.. feeling like some part of 'experiment' against your will... it would only serve to make his situation worse, so it doesn't surprise me he had to be restrained.
 
Stupid article, just spreading misinformation in the ignorant hope it will turn people off the idea. I feel bad for the kid who got hospitalised, that couldn't be fun whilst tripping.
 
another opinion piece, saying that the mushrooms are the cause,
not at all the boys mental health before taking them and the dosage, set and setting, eh?


fucking shit article.

all journalists and sensationalists who write this type of opinion piece,
i honestly hope they come to some serious debilitating harm that stops their ability to write such drivel,
FOREVER.
 
psychedelics will only cause psychological harm if used improperly or if used when the individual already has a predisposition for mental illness. someone who goes out and picks a few handful's of mushrooms and eats them probably doesn't know exactly what they are doing. especially if they have never eaten psylocybin mushrooms before, so if you go pick a bunch the individual eats way more than they should have, then even if they are good mushrooms there still probably going to be a bad outcome since whoever ate them would be in for a INTENSE experience. rather than what he probably thought, a funny high seeing things n shit. which is NOT what a trip is. its an incredibly intense psychological mind fuck, and someone who has never tripped before that eats a large dose would not be able to handle it. You can't just eat a bunch of mushrooms as if your going to party and get fucked up.

people are stupid.
 
^ Not stupid. Just uneducated. Trace this back to the war on drugs. Without it, we might have real education, and people wouldn't do these things.

(Okay, people seem pretty damn stupid at times, but I would rather think of it as "learning", since it seems far less negative, and otherwise essentially means the same thing.)
 
Article Author Responds to THIS Discussion

I contacted the writer of this article and simply told him, "FYI, your recent article is being discussed here. <link>".

This was his response:
Great to see so much reaction to one story!

How about a letter to the editor from some of these respondents, to get some debate going in the paper as well?

Cheers,

Peter de Graaf
Newspapers love dissenting opinions. In part, their democratic function is to serve as a public forum for discussion and debate, and online participation is more important to their survival than ever before. I think encouraging members to interact with the media would largely be beneficial for both them and for advancing Bluelight's own perspective beyond the confines of this forum.

Later, I wrote back to Mr. de Graaf and explained to him that my intent was to try to get those who felt misrepresented by the media to engage with the media more actively. I also said that there seemed to be a fear that exposure would hurt the site's cause. This was his reply (emphasis is mine):
Well, keep trying ... As robust as their discussion is on the forum, they are only preaching to the converted.
I am also sceptical about some of the claims made about magic mushrooms, but my views have no place in a newspaper story (there would be, quite rightfully, howls of complaint if I did try to pass off my views in the guise of a news story).
One thing I can understand is that they'd be reluctant to put their names to a letter to the editor - we don't do anonymous letters except in extreme circumstances, for reasons I'd be happy to explain - but if they're outside NZ I can't see what risk there would be to them. Online commenting is very limited on our budget website, unfortunately.
I wrote Mr. de Graaf in order to test an idea of mine originally outlined in Should Bluelight actively manipulate the media?, a thread posted in DiTM but moved to the Support forum in order for Bluelight staff to respond to it. There has been little response so far, so I posted in the Support forum thread that I would post this here in a few days unless I was asked not to, and I haven't been.

I think instead of complaining about and satirizing stories about drugs we feel are inaccurate we need to contact the journalists and editors of the publications that print these stories and comment on the publication's own websites, and also invite them to see what we think here and comment if they wish (in a courteous and rational way!). I'd like for this kind of contact information, where possible, to be edited into the bottom of the most interesting and controversial stories by Bluelight moderators. As Mr. de Graaf's response implies, many of the journalists that receive harsh reactions from us still encourage our participation in discourse beyond the scope of our own niche interest communities. Though the tone of some articles is often aversive or even combative towards the drug using community, there's no vast conspiracy against us by the media, and we gain little by merely talking amongst ourselves. Please consider posting any of your thoughts regarding this in the thread linked to above for Bluelight staff to consider (please read the previous posts there before commenting as well).

-psood0nym
 
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^ Psood0nym, you are a star! <3<3<3

As for the next step:
Are you going to write a letter to the paper, using some of the ideas in this thread?

If you want to post it somewhere before sending it, I would happily make comments/ give my opinion, and others would probably be willing as well.
 
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