Other Drugs Project #2/2

[SpeedLimit55]

***PREFACE*** Yes I know all the horror stories. Yes I know the risks involved. Yes I know countless of people have died from it. Please don't repeat to me what we ALL already know, even if you have my best interest at heart***/PREFACE***
Perusing The Trip Reports forum just now, I realized we have NO SpeedBall Trip Reports.
I have finally found a seemingly steady, high quality supply of Cocaine and Heroin.
I've not tried the Coke yet, but I know the heroin is top notch.
So I need your help.
I'm not doing this anytime soon...not until I have ALL the information I need and NOT until I am CONVINCED I can pull this off with minimal risk.
So give me your thoughts...especially those of you with experience.
Which do you reccomend to inject first? I understand most people inject the heroin first, then the coke...Is this right? Is this the safest way?
How much to be injected? I'm not asking for dosage suggestions...I'm asking should I inject my usual dose of each? Or drop the amount slightly to err on the side of safety?
Have you ever heard of someone mixing both into one rig and injecting like that?
ANY OTHER tips, tricks, must-have's, help with preparation, the whole 9.
As many of you know this is certainly not my first IV experience, with either of these drugs.
It is the first time I've contemplated doing both at the same time.
I will take all the usual precautions (Several sober sitters, necessary medical supplies on standbye, someone who can drive to the hospital if necessary, blah blah blah)
When I'm completely satisfied with the knowledge I have gained, I will move forward to the actual act.
And of course there will be a full trip report.

 

[Big boy]

a friend of mine did both in the same shot.
i've never tried it but i will be soon. he says it's fucking great, first you get the rush of the coke but instead of getting the come down you go strait to the heroin. the only way i've done a speedball was to do coke first then the H. from what he said it's not the same, the best way to do it is mixed, the only problem i can think of is finding the proper ratio of coke-heroin. if you do mix it i would love to here your thoughts.

 

[SovietContin]

I've never injected the combination, but here's what I know about it.
I have mixed and snorted both simutaneously. It felt great when bumped. When I did a line, I felt really good. Then I didn't. I got really sick. I tried driving. I was wide awake but could not keep my eyes open and was hallucinating really hard. Every few minutes the high would switch and I'd feel the cocaine then the heroin and it went back and forth for hours. Overall not really a good time. I would have much more enjoyed just one or the other.. or done one and just a tiny little bit of the other. Not a large dose of both.
I have another friend who likes to inject high doses of heroin and makes a regular practice of keeping crack around to smoke when he thinks his heart is getting to slow. He seems to enjoy it, but then again when you think about what he's doing... he's not the best guy to learn from.

 

[Psykosiz]

i dont really know shit about this..but driving cant have been the most appropriate choice of activity

 

[Dr. Quack]

You know… do what you want...cheers to y’all, but this is playing with fire. It is dangerous on many different levels. I would suggest that anyone who wants to try this combo test the purity of EACH drug SEPERATLY first!!! It is also important to note that you should use less of each than you would if taking them separately. This is very very very addictive stuff….it feels good, but will kill you after awhile. I wouldn’t suggest taking a shot of both to start. Shoot then snort, or vise versa until you know how you are going to react. Most of the people who fuck p on this combo do so because they have not “researched” the purity of the drugs, or have developed a tolerance to one or both that nears a lethal limit. There is the damage to your soul as well, but that is subjective and not important. I am sure you will feel great about it after you do it for awhile. I have only know one person who has tried this and not become addicted to it. But that’s just me. 3 have died so far.
BE fucking CAREFULL!!!!!!!! Somebody probably loves you.

 

[PhreeX]

I always shot the heroin first as it's has a substantially longer "rush" then cocaine - if you bang the coke first, it's hard to get the heroin in while yer still rushing hard .. I don't know what advice to give as for reducing the risk - it's a dangerous practice... I guess I would just look at it like this - yer young and skinny, so yer heart can take a little of it with no problem!
I would post a trip report but I just hate to write them, especially when trying to properly illustrate a *feeling* ..
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# unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep

 

[Brainrape]

Actually I just did speedballs over the Labor day Weekend...
I personally am not a giant fan of speedballs, I like to go way up or way down, not way in between...
But someone put on Chasing Amy and I'll be goddamned if I am gonna sit through that over-dramatic piece of shit movie sober (He peaked with Clerks)...anyways....
I shot both at the same time, same solution...this is in fact the only way I have seen people do speedballs...because...
Personally, a good shot of coke puts me in no position to draw and bang again, I need to sit the fuck down and enjoy this shit, not attempt any sort of "work"...
And a good shot of smack puts me in the same boat, so I prefer to be able to shoot and go sit the fuck down with a cig, in case I die, or anything funny like that.
Can't give you any doesage advice, you're best bet is to just do slightly less than a reg shot of smack and the same with the coke to be on the safe side, and then alter them accordingly to see what works best for you, perosnally I think you are a tad bit safer doing a speedball becasuse the two cancel each other's dangerous effects to a SMALL dgree...
I'm not a habitual coke or heroin user, so I have low tolerances for both, generally I will cook down a decent chunk of black tar out of a quarter (a reg shot), add the coke (reg shot, maybe slightly less), draw it up and go to heaven...
The feeling is of course, unlike either in singluar form, but personally, speedballs always give me more of the smack effect from the onset and into the high...to sum it up: It's like being smacked out, except not tired, and the feeling is more intense...
Sometimes if I am too smacked out, to the point where I am just nodding out at an uncomfortable level, I do a speedball for the next shot specifially to wake the fuck up.
Also a speedball gives me the whole talking thing, like a mild shot of coke generally does. It's really the best of both worlds, not as intesne a situation as with either drug and you get all the positives.
You don't go into full blown metallic coke world and basically become debilitated, but you get a nice coke feeling, you get a great smack feeling without nodding out too much...
I have no fucking clue why I don't like it that much, but oh well, life is funny...
Good luck...
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Lying on the stained wretched sheets with a bleeding virgin, we could plan a murder or start a religion...

 

[PhreeX]

Twice at once? Naaaa... you need that effect of either being smacked out then getting yer ass kicked by coke, or the sensation of being speeded then slamming on the breaks via heroin ..
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# unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep

 

[SpeedLimit55]

Thanks for the info. folks...thanks also to everyone who e-mailed me with more tips.
I've got the coke now, and the smack will be here tomorrow. I'll probably end up doing it tomorrow. If you read a trip report, you know things went well.

To the poster above mine:
If you had taken the time to include proper grammar and/or punctuation in your post, it *MAY* have given some validity to your post.
However, you did not. Therefore I will view you as either:
A)Lazy
B)Ignorant
C)Both
Thusly I will do it like PhreeX and everyone else with half a brain suggested.
Besides, everyone WANTS TO BE JUST LIKE PHREEX ANYWAY!!

 

[Halloween]

Please, enough bickering. Let me say on behalf of the readers that this is one of the most informative and interesting threads I've read here, and we'd all prefer speedballers to post their experiences without the infighting.
Personally, I'm a pussy. I've only snorted coke and eaten vicoden at the same time. It felt really good, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. I've heard the general up/down combo is bad for your heart. Ask John Belushi. Anyway, like I said, this is a great thread so far.

 

[Brainrape]

If you do the speedball in two separate shots, I suggest the smack first, simply because I don't know about anyone else but a good shot of coke will just leave me unable to do anything as exact as the process of hitting myself and shooting up for at least 10 min...
And technically you would be doing a speedball, but in an incremental form, which to me is essential a waste of it's recreational value...
But I am not seeing a drastic difference in safety by shooting one shot, then another immediatley, you're not going to die from the timing of the doseage so much as the amount you use, and thus, using a safe amount while injecting at the same time offers as much risk as shooting the two separatly...
But what it does guarantee is that you do not have to go through the process of shooting again while still rushing from the first shot, it allows for conveinece and possibly more safety as, god only knows how good a shot you could pull of during that inital heroin rush, I'd prob shoot half the drugs straight through the goddamn vein into my arm

Your choice is your own, but personally to do them separatley is a waste of drugs and a waste of time...Kind of like snorting your drugs

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Lying on the stained wretched sheets with a bleeding virgin, we could plan a murder or start a religion...

 

[SpeedLimit55]

Thanks for all the advice...even the ones written in very poor english are appreciated

I have everything I need now, I'm gonna eat some dinner then I'll get started...
It's gonna go:
Load rig...Inject Smack...Wait....Wait...Wait...Load rig...inject coke...enjoy.
I probably won't be in much of a condition to write the report tonight, but tomorrow it'll be done.

 

[PhreeX]

Naa.. it won't wreck you that bad.. you will feel good but not so fucked up you cant post..
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# unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep

 

[Jes]

I have to agree w/phreex. Go with the dope first then the coke.
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Cheers,
Jesse!

 

[*kell*]

Why not blast both at once, If you've already done both seperatly then arent you really curious? I mean if you dont really like it at least you know.Not that I can imagine you NOT liking it, like all drugs & combos it all comes down to personal preferences & my preference is to go forth & experiment!