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Other alternatives to 4mmc/3mmc as less neurotoxic substitute for MDMA

chris_p

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Has anyone had success replacing chronic use of MDMA with other serotonin releasers? I've heard of 5-meo-mipt as an alternative but couldnt find that here so I got a batch of 3mmc 4mmc I tried the 4mmc but it doesnt feel as good its got a kind of wired feeling to it doesnt make me feel quite that seem feeling like the connection I get, i havent tried the 3mmc yet but they feel a lot more like stimulants than MDMA, I've also tried 2cb as an alternative but just ended up mixing it with MDMA, are there any alternatives long term that dont cause the same level of neurotoxicity? Also something that is easy to obtain and doesnt last too long or noticeable the day after after using MDMA too often for a while I've noticed my personality and memory kind of dull for a few weeks but pretty hard to stop nothing else really gives me that same feeling

I had some success with Kanna but it stopped working after a while when I smoked it once I passed out so didnt try it again after that also the hangover it gave me was pretty bad
 
Also to note the empathogenic effect doesnt feel as natural it feels a bit forced in like a more stimulant manner don't really enjoy it. Mentally it still has the kind of mind fuck feeling but the body sensation is a lot more like a stimulant its kind of contradictory feeling don't really understand the hype over it. Maybe I'll try the 3mmc and see if its better
 
How are you using the kanna? Is it extract or just herb? What sort of doses?

I've a big bag of it somewhere.
 
BadBoy377 said:
How are you using the kanna? Is it extract or just herb? What sort of doses?

I've a big bag of it somewhere.
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I smoked it from my garden once but the powderized kanna I got was better I mixed it in weed I didnt really measure the amount but I got knocked out after basically I waws lying like face first in my chair I remember being woken up by someone lol it was a bit psychedelic that wasnt something I ever noticed with normal kanna I basically didnt get an effect from the raw stuff I would maybe dry it and blend it I wouldnt say the feeling was very enjoyable it kind of feels like when you take too much MDMA and start going delirious with none of the enjoyable side effects. It gave me a similar kind of withdrawal. Didn't feel like it was doing good things to my mind honestly
 
Yeah, I think you're only meant to use small doses.

If I remember they ferment it up and grind it to produce it.

Small doses meant to have an antidepressant effect. I don't think it has much mileage as an intoxicant. I'm open to learning otherwise though.
 
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