Opioids otc medication for opiod withdrawals

[TheHolyRedCow]

been addicted to about .6-1grams of smoked heroin pretty pure tested.
for about couple months i have been cleaned from heroine. hoerver i snorted some suboxone. snorted it here and there but last 3 days were : 8mg, 6mg snorted-4mg snorted. then i havent taken anything some days then i took 72mg codeine and i started withdrawaing hard next day. yesterday i took 36mg then another 12.8mg after an hours.
today i felt terrible. i took like 5 hours ago 128 mg codeine10mg loperamide and 2gr inuprofen. now i took anoer 80mg mg codeine with 1.4mg ibuprofen.
i also have speed, weed and alxohol

 

[TheHolyRedCow]

i also toon 100mg wurtiapine like 5hours ago

 

[Señor Moreno]

Don't use that speed and/or alcohol that you have. Stimulants seem to help until the comedown starts and makes your anxiety way worse, plus the very little chance that you have to sleep will be jeopardized.
As for booze, hangovers are great worsening wds.
You should try and get some pregabalin or at least gabapentin, and also clonidine. Pregabs helps a lot with many wd symptoms, and clonidine helps you to avoid high BP peaks, wich means that it will help with those horrible hot/cold flashes

 

[TheHolyRedCow]

Don't use that speed and/or alcohol that you have. Stimulants seem to help until the comedown starts and makes your anxiety way worse, plus the very little chance that you have to sleep will be jeopardized.
As for booze, hangovers are great worsening wds.
You should try and get some pregabalin or at least gabapentin, and also clonidine. Pregabs helps a lot with many wd symptoms, and clonidine helps you to avoid high BP peaks, wich means that it will help with those horrible hot/cold flashes

maybe from monday forward i will ve able to get some pregabalin

 

[TheHolyRedCow]

so nope. No meds today. I woke up after like 15 hours or so of sleep. I smoked a bunch of weed to fall asleep then woke up, smoke some more and sleep again.
i woke up pretty tired thou but i am glad i was able to sleep. For the last 10 or so dats sleep was quite difficult. and i take 200mg seroquel XR and still can barely sleep.
Today i felt a lot better than yesterday and i havent taken any codeine or opiods. It seems a bit strange as i was expected to feel worse than yesterday.

amphetamine helped a lot with feeling cold. there are like 36 degree celsius over here and before taking some speed I was so so fucking cold. Now i sweat like a pig. Stimulants for sure didnt help with the goosebumps. I would say the pain and skin sensitivity is higher now but at leas i aint cold no more.

i ll start coding something. I was learning C but i stopped since the pain was unberable. i think i overdone the speed but will try having some productive time nonetheless but focusing on something is difficult. My mind is racing

 

[jasperkent]

You might consider red vein kratom.
Red Maeng Da is especially good.

 

[TheHolyRedCow]

i found a 2mg suboxone pill. I snorted like 0.5mg few minutes ago.

my plan is if tomorrow i feel bad again to take another 0.5mg sublingual

 

[TheHolyRedCow]

You might consider red vein kratom.
Red Maeng Da is especially good.

never really liked kratom. when i was using more heavily i did try it and yeah it takes the withdrawald away but i needed to dose 10+ grams anf usually i would puke after taking it. i tried in pills, parachutes, etc. My stomach hates it

here were i live it s also illegal. It is easier for me to get some codeine woth paracetamol or ibuprofen from a pharmacy. Sadly i woke up today right aftet the pharmacy closed.

any advice of how should i spread the 1.5mg suboxone i have left?

i went with snorting it since it hits faster and since i also have a low dose i said to make the most out of it.
Should i continue snorting little bits whenever i feel bad or next time should i tske it sublingual as it will be softer on my neurotransmitters?

 

[jasperkent]

Should i continue snorting little bits whenever i feel bad or next time should i tske it sublingual as it will be softer on my neurotransmitters?

With most drugs, snorting is wasteful & shorter-acting. I don't know about suboxone.

 

[TheHolyRedCow]

With most drugs, snorting is wasteful & shorter-acting. I don't know about suboxone.

suboxone is 50% more bioavailable intranasally than sublingual. It also does hits you faster. I know when i snorted like 8mg i was pretty high for abou 4-6 hours.
Sublingual is supposed to last 24 hours.

i am not really sure if i did good. I took 0.25mg sublingual as soon as i woke up(like 20 hours since i snorted 0.5mg) and alsso took a bit of speed. I wasnt in any pain when i took the 0.25. I took it as i have to study today and the withdrawals conpletely kill my whole motivation. Even if the pain is bearable, the lack of motivation and the extreme lethargy make studying impossible

i hope that the 0.25 wont prolong my withdrawals.
I will also get lyrica xanax and ketamine next week. I am planning on spreadimg the suboxone as much as possible and until i get the xanax and lyrica, use here and there some codeine.

i swear the withdrawals from suboxone are worse than heroin. They last so so fucking long

 

[Señor Moreno]

I realize that 600 mg morph is a serious habit and I understand you wanting to taper it, but the thing is that short acting opiates, even if extended release formulated, aren't the best tool for a tappering plan.
Haven't you think about getting some methadone? Maybe you could cut your morphine intake to a point that you feel it bareable, say 200 to 300 mg, then you could switch to a reasonably low dose of methadone that would allow you to more or less function, and then you can taper the mdone.
Let's say that you do it to 250 mg morphine per day; at that point you can try like 40 or so mg of mdne and it should get you kind of stable (you know that you want to quit a opiate addiction, so some pain is unavoidable). Methadone is much more suited for a taper, so you can start taking less day by day. I would not suggest you to taper to zero but maybe to 10 or 15 mdone mg, wich can be done in less than two weeks.
At that point, your pregabalin, kratom and other comfort meds should help you way better that just jumping from 600 mg morphine.

 

[Opana313]

No I think it's 50% bioavailability and sublingual being something like 98% meaning sublingual is much much more effective..orally 10% hella weak there of course, but never tried that one.

Or am I backwards? Someone please chime in.