DeathDomokun
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Great post psy
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headdah
Bluelighter
and VOILA, prelude to WW3 has began.
Best stockup on all medical goods ASAP YO.
we're in for a long dark ages :>
Best stockup on all medical goods ASAP YO.
we're in for a long dark ages :>
psynapsurfa
Bluelighter
yeah i guess that is what i mean about the media... they are mearly a voice being controlled by forces much more powerful... i said large i know, but powerful is what i mean. with many hidden agendas... so i am never quick to believe what i see via it...
i guess to a certain degree there is an element of zeitgeist in my thinking.. i wont lie that i have not seen their stuff... however, i am not totally influenced by their agenda...i am quite capable of thinkin in my own random way...!!!
osamma was allready a terrorist.. he was allready on the fbis most wanted list...and allready a willing player, who wanted that role... so in a way, he the perfect figurehead for their agenda. and while bush was in the house, he was safe... and i do believe that these families and their allies did profit incredibly by this war...
regardless of how it may sound, i actually am not a conspiracy buff, i dont believe in annunuki, reptillians, or planet x. i am just a thinker, who often gets it wrong, but sometimes gets it right.. either way i try to operate from a more intuitive and introspective place in all my meanderings on life...
and i have been fascinated with this whole orwellian saga..
how, we are actually living in a state that shares so many of the visions that hitler had for the future or something... once again, it is just this bubbling feeling in the undercurrent of my mind, and i cant quite describe the feeling...
half a trillion a year i what i wrote first.. and the deleted it thinking i must have got it wrong!!!
man, that is so much money goin to someone isnt it... there are many many people who have profited vastly from this fabricated war. so, it is not un feasible that many co-conspirators were easy to find who were willing for the sake of greed, commit any act, and stand firm after it...
all i know is watching those towers drop on the very day, i said to my g/f how, i could clearly hear the bangs of explosives just before they dropped, and having been fascinated with explosives and demolition in particular, that i said i was very suspicious that they had not been dropped carefully, so as not to destroy other buildings... this was well before any theories were surfacing, as it was as it happened... so i have always been suss about it...
so now, after watching the world descend into chaos for ten years, and now watching people believe in all kind of crap like px, etc, it seems that people truly are in a mindwashed state...
i find it doubly intriguing, when we have this movement among the people sof the world about awakening... when so many of these awakend ones, actually talk so much rubbish and are the first to believe in rubbish, and spread disinformation that it harms the movement by removing any chance of credibilit, that i have started saying to people.. you think you are awake, but how can you be sure that you are not actually dreaming?
can anyone tell i got an espresso machine this week... this is just caffiene... i just cant do real stims very often anymore!!!hahahahahahha
anyway, i should quirt while i am ahead, and leave now, thanx for the support of my posts...
i guess to a certain degree there is an element of zeitgeist in my thinking.. i wont lie that i have not seen their stuff... however, i am not totally influenced by their agenda...i am quite capable of thinkin in my own random way...!!!
osamma was allready a terrorist.. he was allready on the fbis most wanted list...and allready a willing player, who wanted that role... so in a way, he the perfect figurehead for their agenda. and while bush was in the house, he was safe... and i do believe that these families and their allies did profit incredibly by this war...
regardless of how it may sound, i actually am not a conspiracy buff, i dont believe in annunuki, reptillians, or planet x. i am just a thinker, who often gets it wrong, but sometimes gets it right.. either way i try to operate from a more intuitive and introspective place in all my meanderings on life...
and i have been fascinated with this whole orwellian saga..
how, we are actually living in a state that shares so many of the visions that hitler had for the future or something... once again, it is just this bubbling feeling in the undercurrent of my mind, and i cant quite describe the feeling...
half a trillion a year i what i wrote first.. and the deleted it thinking i must have got it wrong!!!
man, that is so much money goin to someone isnt it... there are many many people who have profited vastly from this fabricated war. so, it is not un feasible that many co-conspirators were easy to find who were willing for the sake of greed, commit any act, and stand firm after it...
all i know is watching those towers drop on the very day, i said to my g/f how, i could clearly hear the bangs of explosives just before they dropped, and having been fascinated with explosives and demolition in particular, that i said i was very suspicious that they had not been dropped carefully, so as not to destroy other buildings... this was well before any theories were surfacing, as it was as it happened... so i have always been suss about it...
so now, after watching the world descend into chaos for ten years, and now watching people believe in all kind of crap like px, etc, it seems that people truly are in a mindwashed state...
i find it doubly intriguing, when we have this movement among the people sof the world about awakening... when so many of these awakend ones, actually talk so much rubbish and are the first to believe in rubbish, and spread disinformation that it harms the movement by removing any chance of credibilit, that i have started saying to people.. you think you are awake, but how can you be sure that you are not actually dreaming?
can anyone tell i got an espresso machine this week... this is just caffiene... i just cant do real stims very often anymore!!!hahahahahahha
anyway, i should quirt while i am ahead, and leave now, thanx for the support of my posts...
smackcraft
Bluelighter
I totally agree, i think that this is all utter BS .. just the fact of the body being dumped in the ocean with no photos or videos being released as proof is just utter shite
Sorry but why the hell is no one questioning this ????
Sorry but why the hell is no one questioning this ????
Christ!
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a little confused, was it the 'goodies' or 'baddies' that just had a 'win'?
Definition of a 'terrorist'...
Lets not turn this into a discussion on Osama's death with undertones of conspiracy theories.
Not sure if I get what you mean? Although I think the partying and 'USA-USA-USA' thing is a little ridiculous I think it's a win for the 'goodies' I very rarely support murder but in Bin Ladins case I really think he got what he deserved.
He hates your government and in turn hates you, your family and most people you know - he'd murder every single one of them if he got the chance.
lol I've just contributed to this going off topic
Would killing Bin Ladin really provoke much more of a response from al-Qaeda? Aren't they already doing everything they can to stir up shit?
laugh
Ex-Bluelighter
^ you are catholic / christian? osama was not on team jesus was he...he liked one of the other comic books more hey... 
not much to get really...i think they are both as bad as one another...killing & murdering how can either side justify the astrocities they have committed.
i believe in peace
call me crazy...
not much to get really...i think they are both as bad as one another...killing & murdering
how can either side justify the astrocities they have committed.i believe in peace
call me crazy...
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Jakeperson
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Obama - "Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist who is responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children"
deaths in 911: around 3,000
civilian deaths in Afghanistan: 8,813 deaths and 15,863 injuries
total death count involved in both the Iraq and Afghanistan war to date is close to 1million
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so whos the terrorist?
deaths in 911: around 3,000
civilian deaths in Afghanistan: 8,813 deaths and 15,863 injuries
total death count involved in both the Iraq and Afghanistan war to date is close to 1million
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so whos the terrorist?
wraithdragon
Bluelighter
Osama is (well was) the new Hitler.
heythatsmybike
Bluelighter
Thank fuck he wasn't the next Pol Pot or Joseph Starlin.
Not saying he's a nice guy, but he didn't equate anywhere near any of the 20th century dictators. Who said he caused the deaths on the 9/11 incident? America, FUCK YEAH
Christ!
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not much to get really...i think they are both as bad as one another...killing & murdering
i believe in peace
call me crazy...
Yeah by 'goodies' I meant the majority of the world. The ones who generally try to avoid doing harm to others.
I'm a peace believer too but I think it's often not as simple as that...although maybe we make it more complicated.
US and al-Qaeda have both committed horrible atrocities. If you're looking at number of deaths caused US would be miles and miles above al-Qaeda...look at Vietnam.
al-Qaeda actively goes after 'enemy' civilians. US has been responsible for many civilian deaths, but this isn't their policy, and it usually occurs by accident, or by 'bad apples' either at individual or higher ranking level.
Americans can be a certain way, but it's not all of them. I've actually heard a few people tell me how much they hate yanks, I ask them why and they never have a good reason, never actually for something done to them.
I guess it's pretty subjective, I'm not saying the united states are perfect....far from it mate.
Back on topic though....
I've been looking around for good information on the opium trade in Afghanistan and the supply chain leading to us. Anyone know of any good articles or docos?
Will do a bit of research on the Taliban and al-Qaeda influence on opium as well. Didn't really think they were all that involved but read a few articles suggesting otherwise, maybe not officially but indirectly.
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Crankinit
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I have to admit, and I'm usually not sceptical about these things, but it did make me wonder when they make such a huge deal about him getting killed, but then dispose of the body almost immediately and in such a way as to destroy all evidence of his death.
This
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
I went to TAFE last year with a woman who was an Iraqi in Iraq at the time US forces invaded the country and believe you me she had plenty of good reason...
No point turning this into a who's worse, the US Government or Osama Bin Laden argument, the truth is neither of them are, or in Osama's (alleged) case was, a saint.
Something about this shit is real fishy to me, I pretty much swallowed it without question that he was dead until I read that link where they claim to have buried him at sea already and as far as I am aware there is no fucking proof of this. To me something about this is seriously suspicious and until I see that video Obama and the other assholes in the white house were supposedly watching I will remain skeptical.
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JoshE
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US may have to release photo of Osama bin Laden's body
I'm in the same boat as everyone else.Still, even if they eventually release photos, for all we know they could still be photoshopped.
Fuck the government.
I'm in the same boat as everyone else.Still, even if they eventually release photos, for all we know they could still be photoshopped.
Fuck the government.
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
^ Could you provide a source for that at all?
I have a friend who was saying the other day how they believe Bin Laden has been dead for a long time and kept alive in the minds of the American people to keep up support for the war. I could believe this is the case although for him to die in hiding from a medical condition seems somewhat unlikely to me as you would think it would of surfaced in more than 9 years.
I am definately very fucking skeptical about this whole thing though, and I find it hard to believe the US Government would pull a stunt like that if there was a risk he could turn up alive later on. In the event that this was staged then I wholeheartedly believe Osama Bin Laden is deceased, although I would of been more likely to think he was killed in an airstrike or captured by US millitary because if he died outside of US hands they couldn't guarantee it would be squashed. I suppose Al Quida to an extent could be said to have an agenda in concealing his death but really, if anything, the only effect I could see that having is decreased international scrutiny against their terror cells.
All anyone can really do here is speculate, unfortunately it is never likely that any of us here will know the truth for certain. I would also like to say it seems very convenient the way events supposedly unfolded, him holding a gun to his wifes head... how many fucking Middle Eastern people have been killed by US troops I really have a hard time believing that if Bin Ladens compound was raided he would think for one second sticking a barrell against some Pakistani chicks temple would buy him any leverage whatsoever. It is my belief they have portrayed such a conveniently cowardly death for him in an attempt to minimise the amount of people which may consider him a martyr.
I have a friend who was saying the other day how they believe Bin Laden has been dead for a long time and kept alive in the minds of the American people to keep up support for the war. I could believe this is the case although for him to die in hiding from a medical condition seems somewhat unlikely to me as you would think it would of surfaced in more than 9 years.
I am definately very fucking skeptical about this whole thing though, and I find it hard to believe the US Government would pull a stunt like that if there was a risk he could turn up alive later on. In the event that this was staged then I wholeheartedly believe Osama Bin Laden is deceased, although I would of been more likely to think he was killed in an airstrike or captured by US millitary because if he died outside of US hands they couldn't guarantee it would be squashed. I suppose Al Quida to an extent could be said to have an agenda in concealing his death but really, if anything, the only effect I could see that having is decreased international scrutiny against their terror cells.
All anyone can really do here is speculate, unfortunately it is never likely that any of us here will know the truth for certain. I would also like to say it seems very convenient the way events supposedly unfolded, him holding a gun to his wifes head... how many fucking Middle Eastern people have been killed by US troops I really have a hard time believing that if Bin Ladens compound was raided he would think for one second sticking a barrell against some Pakistani chicks temple would buy him any leverage whatsoever. It is my belief they have portrayed such a conveniently cowardly death for him in an attempt to minimise the amount of people which may consider him a martyr.
Christ!
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You're right dm all we can do is speculate. I'm pretty sure the US will eventually release either video or photo and DNA test results...of course no matter what they release people will still be sceptical.
I believe it's Islam custom for the body to be buried relatively soon after death? Not sure of the preferred time limit but I believe it's 24-48 hours?
Burial at sea isn't surprising. Last thing US would want is his grave being made into a shrine. Also I read something about no country being willing to have him (although not sure of the truth of this)
Look at Hitler's burial - same kind of thing.
I believe it's Islam custom for the body to be buried relatively soon after death? Not sure of the preferred time limit but I believe it's 24-48 hours?
Burial at sea isn't surprising. Last thing US would want is his grave being made into a shrine. Also I read something about no country being willing to have him (although not sure of the truth of this)
Look at Hitler's burial - same kind of thing.
Sameria
Bluelighter
Let's not forget that America and the CIA were the ones responsible for arming the Taliban in the 80's to fight the russians and install a US. Friendly Regime in Afghanistan...I wonder why...it wouldn't be to invade the country years later and take all their oil and control the opium market would it? No, certainly not, a great country like the US of A wouldn't do something like that
Open your eyes people. Osama and the rest of the Bin Laden family have been close friends and business asscosciates with America's Financial and Political elite for decades. Look at all the supposed "videos" of Osama Bin Laden since 9/11..the inconsistancies are noticable to a 6 year old.
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt to boost morale for the war on personal freedoms.
Open your eyes people. Osama and the rest of the Bin Laden family have been close friends and business asscosciates with America's Financial and Political elite for decades. Look at all the supposed "videos" of Osama Bin Laden since 9/11..the inconsistancies are noticable to a 6 year old.
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt to boost morale for the war on personal freedoms.