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swybs

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I know that heroin has a low bioavailability and it is a basic waste. However, pushing those two things aside, let's say someone had a lot and wanted to try it once. Supposedly, it is supposed to be exactly like oral morphine.
with that said, what would be a good starting dose? This is east coast dope, good quality, 100 mg per bag. I would be also insuffulating it. Would 100 mg equal say 50 mg morphine, considering purity issues, etc?

Also, if one was to capsule it, can any stomach discomfort, etc, be expected? Thanks in advance-just want to try it once-let's say, it is rare that I can afford it but I can right now-got to try everything once, right?

Any personal experience would be appreciated. Thanks.

Swybs
 
I don't have any personal experience, but I would imagine that you would need about the same dose as you would for oral morphine. I believe that heroin would be turned into morphine on the first pass metabolism and therefore would be just like taking oral morphine. Same dose, same bioavailability same effects, length, etc. Also, I would imagine that you would get stomach discomfort due to whatever shit it is cut with and just from the general shitty taste and acidity.

But, like I said, I have no personal experience eating it and am just making an educated assumption. But you know what they say about assuming.
 
Why do you want to do this? Is there any reason youre tryna eat it man? You know better than that. It aint that Im sayin dont do it..Just that for someone who is a very experienced dope user you seem to have a unusual idea to do this, when most dopeheads would laugh at that idea. Basically what about the idea of eatin it appeals to you?

I doubt eating one bag would get you fucked up enough to even feel a thing. I wont post back til i got some solid info tho, but really if youre already snortin it, whats the point?

Sorry for the backtalk, i know you know its a waste but i just wonder what makes people want to do shit like this even knowing that its pretty much useless....
 
Have you ever taken oxycodone orally? Drank pod tea? If so, then you already know what it's going to feel like and therefore wasting your money and your dope.

If you've got the money now, then why not have fun with it by using the heroin the way it was meant to be used?
 
Yo, lacey, queen miss, how you rollin? As you can tell, I came up aces across the board. You bring up good questions...first, occasionally, I run into difficulty with clogged nose, etc, and if the oral acting had a longer duration, it may be something to look into. Not saying it is me, but when you run into 300 dollar bricks of amazing dope, it seems like one has a little to play with.

Also, I have a few friends that take oxy but are against dope (can someone say hypocritical?). These two guys, however, understand the morphine transformation, and wanted to consider oral dosing.

Finally, its always the "yea, I know it sucks, but got to try it once anyway." Basically, I'm an idiot, but I figured I would try it as a morning dose, to best be able to guage effects.

Lacey, you crazy, yo! You crack me up all dayz long. No joke, and in a good way. Hit me up on pm and I will tell you a fairy tale that will crack your shit up. I'm a fucking lunatic.

Swybs
 
Use a nasal decongestant. I'd probably plug it before taking it orally.


I'm assuming you don't want to use needles, so I won't even mention that.
 
I had a friend years ago that couldn't snort ANYTHING. I forget what was wrong with his nose, but basically, anything he tried to snort would fall right out, and he would get no effects. Anyway, when he was heroin-niave, he wanted to try it, but wasn't successful in snorting, and didn't want me to poke him with the needle, so he ended up putting 2 bags worth in a gell cap and popping it that way. He pretty much had no opiate tollerance, and he did get high off the gell-cap, so he said.

BUT the dope he used was of great quality (NE USA white powder, 2000-01 era) and normally a 1/4 bag would FLOOR a newbie, but he just got a really decent high, from what i was told. No puking, or passing out, but quite itchy, nodded out a few times.. I was also told that he woke up the next day, still quite buzzed. I've never tried oral myself, so you're experience may vary quite a bit. But, if you can't snort it, and don't want to shoot it, plugging it actually works wonderful, even better than snorting IME. Just as long as you can get by the stigma of putting something in your rear-end. There are some good threads here about plugging H if you wanna check that end out.. pun-not-intended =p
 
1mg heroin = 1 mg morphine when you eat it.

the heroin is hydrolyzed back to morphine long before it is absorbed.

May as well eat some MSContin, or other forms, and stick to taking the heroin other ways, which I believe you already know that its the best idea.
 
Well, I suppose since I am going to try it orally, I may as well lose my plug cherry and give that a whirl. Phrozen, can you tell me the best/easiest/least intrusive way to plug NE (nj/nyc) dope and quantity (current batch, 8 out of 10 in quality)? I usually do 6-8 bags a day. Figure for first dose of the day (a lazy sunday)...

What equipment do I need? Finally, detailed directions on exactly what stance I should take, etc, considering I am completely new to this plugging thing (and, quite honestly, even if the high is wonderful, I wouldn't follow it on a regular basis-call me old fashioned).

Thanks in advance.

Btw, I'm going to take 200 mg orally tomorrow am and try to abstain from any intranasal until I can gauge effects. I will write back tomorrow regarding results. The one post above about his friend's experience interested me, particularly duration.

-swybs
 
How strange.. why would you want to eat your dope?.. to me thats pretty ridiculous haha.. to each his own i guess.. but if I saw someone doing that I would have to slap them really hard..
 
All these negative people. Just for that, I'm going to eat a whole slew of it. And, apparently, if I'm by jamie when I do it, I'm going to get slapped.

Yep. Jamie, I will eat an extra bag or two for you.

Swybs
 
have fun swybs.. I just never heard of someone wanting to do that.. tell me if it was worth it !
 
Thanks, jamie. See, that's what I'm saying-everyone has heard such bad things about it, no one wants to waste it. But, since I'm willing to waste some, I might as well know for sure if it sucks. I personally like oral morphine but find it hard to procure.

I will let you guys know tomorrow how big of a waste (or not) it was.

Swybs
 
syyth007 said:
I've never tried oral myself, so you're experience may vary quite a bit.
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Oh man, you gotta try it!!When all you can see is her head and she's humming...oh wait. Is that what we're talking about?=D
 
Pointless, it reverts to morphine in the body I believe, meaning it would be the same as eating a morphine tablet.
 
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