oral DMT dosing question

[Solipsis]

I'm interested to know what happened as well. It would suck if it was too impure, that could be true if someone extracted it in some weird way - what appearance did the DMT have?

I hope you didn't have a trip so overwhelming that it had unwanted strong effects. I don't think it's a laughing matter to take doses that sound large to me (if it is pure) for the reason that it is the only material you have. If you have smoked it before then apparently you can sometimes acquire it. I would always try a moderate dose first with a drug before jumping in the deep end, or else accept the consequences.

Yes I can be conservative in my opinions but they are also meant to be more responsible decisions. I was more reckless years before this and sometimes burned my fingers pretty bad. And such things are not necessary. I can live with having had overwhelming trips but that doesn't mean that I recommend people jumping in the deep end.

There will always be people to say: whatever just take 3 hits, or take 210 mg oral DMT for your first time. It's not a debate with a solution. And I am not coming off it.
I also said in the case of oral DMT, I am not experienced so perhaps my recommendation was quite on the careful side. But I base it on multiple accounts I have read about when trying to gauge a dose to begin with for myself. And it was more like 75-100 than 210.

 

[IamMe90]

I took all 210mg and it didn't do anything. I dunno if I timed the MAOi wrong or something... i'm pretty sure the extraction was pure enough since i broke thorugh on 50mg smoked. it was an orange crystal that looked like any other DMT that hasn't been defatted

i had smoked DMT several times the previous day. i had read that DMT doesnt build tolerance daily, but perhaps some tolerance had built from smoking large amounts of the DMT the previous night??

needless to say it was disapointing because it was the last of my DMT extraction and I'm goign to have to buy more bark and do the extraction again.

 

[Solipsis]

Yeah next time perhaps leave 1 hour between the MAOI and the first DMT you take? And eat 5 grams of Rue instead of 3 to be sure? Sorry to hear it didn't work.

Hopefully you will have a good amount after your next extraction and you can consider taking it slightly lower because having had no effect now doesn't say anything about how effective any dose might be when you have good MAO inhibition next time.
Also if I were you I would not trip a couple of days before this to be sure, even though I don't think it was tolerance that prevented you from tripping. Also don't drink coffee and a number of other things to ensure that you don't have things in your body that might make it all feel less clean.

I really wanna check on what oral DMT dosages are said to be normal so that I know if I am a fool saying that 210 mg is really on the strong side.
Also, oral DMT is said to be much more of a life-changing experience than a 5-minute flash from vaporizing. So I don't buy into the suggestion that it makes you prepared for a hefty amount.

I hope less than 300 mg of moclobemide would also be effective since I only have 200 for my oral DMT trip and I was even hoping to be able to split that.
I will save my synthetic DMT for IMing :D


It's also interesting that I found Ismene saying this but ok

posted in http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=208983

could we leave it out in the open andmove it in like a week?

The mods might throw a hissy fit...

How much DMT depends on a few things - how experienced you are with psychedelics, how far you want to go the first time, whether you want to test you don't keel over with the MAOI first etc.

First time I'd make sure it was a fairly low dose - 50-100mg of DMT freebase and just see how it goes. Leave a good 45-60 mins after taking the MAOI before taking the DMT. You may need to eat a few mouthfuls of buttered toast to help the DMT kick in.

Oral DMT is very psychedelic and lasts about 2-3 hours.

Granted maybe you said this before having had personal experience with oral DMT, but I don't have any either.

So, first check that thread and the people like S_S considering 75 mg one of the most intense trips ever, then check your attitude.

 

[DwayneHoover]

Oral dosages vary *alot*. You might not have enough to find your sweet spot because you should always start low unless you don't mind risking a few hours in hyperspace.

A good dose for me is about 130.

Way too much with Rue. OD city.

Combining Rue and 5-meo-dmt, 10mg of the 5-meo was super intense.

I realize the 5-meo is alot more potent to begin with than straight DMT, but I still bet that 130 is big overkill.

 

[Ismene]

I took all 210mg and it didn't do anything.

My guess is that the rue wasn't sufficient to inhibit MAOI. That's the trouble with using shit like rue and caapi - you're never certain of the dose. With moclobemide you take a 300mg tablet and you know for certain the MAOI is sorted.

I've always found a big tolerance with oral DMT - if you try taking it even once a week the effects drop off massively. You only get the translucent arabian jewels shimmering in the air if you havn't taken any in a good while. But that's just me - some people say they can take it more often and still get effects.

I don't know how the tolerance with smoked would work, I don't really smoke DMT, I'm not much of a fan of 5 minute trips. I've always preferred taking it orally.

Granted maybe you said this before having had personal experience with oral DMT

I'd had plenty of experience with oral DMT before I said that but I did preface it by saying it depends how experienced he was with psychedelics. I got the impression IamMe is pretty experienced so taking a decent dose of oral DMT wasn't going to blow him out of the water. If you arn't experienced with DMT then, like with every drug, I'd recomend starting small and working your way up

Also, oral DMT is said to be much more of a life-changing experience than a 5-minute flash from vaporizing

I don't know about life-changing but it's a gorgeous couple of hours. It's extremely psychedelic but also very friendly. If there wasn't the problem with nausea then it would be my favourite drug. It probably still is my favourite drug but I prefer taking it in the form of mushrooms and moclobemide because there's no nausea that way.

I hope less than 300 mg of moclobemide would also be effective since I only have 200 for my oral DMT trip and I was even hoping to be able to split that

200 might be enough. I think I once took 150mg of moclo and tripped fine but I always prefer taking 300mg just to be on the safe side. I think you can buy a 30 pack of aurorix moclobemide for something like £50 so it's like £1.50 a trip so why risk taking less than 300mg.

Not sure if 100mg would be enough - maybe if your bodyweight is fairly small?

And as I always like to mention, taking moclobemide with mushrooms gives you an oral DMT trip with zero nausea and a peak that lasts a good 2-3 hours longer than freebase DMT. Only problem is the tolerance you get - it seems to be so incredibly psychedelic and long-lasting that your brain needs a good 1-3 months to recharge.