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Opioid withdrawal hell.... again!

The neighbour trick is a good one, actually. Get the units right, but the tens wrong. Easily explained as a typing error or mishearing.

In fact, that reminds me ..... One time, I ordered a replacement print head for my sister's 24-pin colour dot matrix printer, which I had managed to turn into a 23-pin printer, and had it sent to a neighbour's house -- although they were in on the scam. Half an hour with a couple of fine screwdrivers, and my sister never noticed .....

Heh, if I'm understanding that bold part correctly (I might not be), then that is largely irrelevant due to the fact that I live at house address number 1. It's a pretty small street, so there is always the risk of sending it to a neighbour, that just comes knocking on our door with it and hands it to the rents.

Given that, I think I'm going to go with the fake name scheme as plan A, but am currently debating whether or not to order today or tomorrow. Think I'll wait until Thursday post, that gives me by far the greatest chance of it arriving when at least one parent is out. Although I have some trainers to collect tomorrow, so I could do that, then hide round the side of the house till the mailman comes and sweep right in there after them. I have about half an hour to make my decision before delivery cut off time.

Fuck, the levels I've stooped to the last couple of days for an extra week or two of not having to worry about getting deathly dope sick...
 
1 is certainly a hard number to get wrong, unless you go outrageous.

Another idea: Find a website where you can look up an address given a postcode, and enter a postcode with the last letter or two different from your own (so if your postcode is SW17 0RG, you might put SW17 0RH). Have the goods sent to the right name and house number in the wrong street.

The longer you can leave it before taking any more opiates, the better; and do not overdo it, or else you will just be restarting the clock on your recovery.
 
1 is certainly a hard number to get wrong, unless you go outrageous.

Another idea: Find a website where you can look up an address given a postcode, and enter a postcode with the last letter or two different from your own (so if your postcode is SW17 0RG, you might put SW17 0RH). Have the goods sent to the right name and house number in the wrong street.

The longer you can leave it before taking any more opiates, the better; and do not overdo it, or else you will just be restarting the clock on your recovery.

Yep, I've already made an order to my own address using a fake name. Kind of regret it at the moment, but I'll probably be thankful a couple of days down the line when the DHC runs out.

And yes, I get that the key to success of tapering is always allowing a little bit of withdrawal syndrome to be present. I've been so conflicted regarding whether I actually wanted to stop the last couple of days but now I've gone and ordered I think it is clear that I don't want to do this any longer. Too much hassle, too much distraction from the important things in life.

Lets just hope I can stay true to that sentiment...
 
The sorting office does ask for id nowadays. Usually a driving licence or passport but some will accept a bank of credit card....mine know me as I used to train with the guy behind the counter but just saying this may cause problems.
 
Today was a bit of a fail in regards to tapering tbh. I think having ordered that gear has given me a false sense of security; even though my plan might fall through, I feel less need to be stingy with my stash of comfort meds. As such, I finished off that last 400mg ket in bumps throughout the day. Felt close to no withdrawal symptoms, but I'm not sure if that was because of the ket or because I've overestimated how bad the withdrawal is actually going to be once the opioids are out my system. Also, found coding on ket surprisingly possible (albeit at relatively low doses).

I took my second dose of DHC around an hour ago (120mg, will try to drop my morning dose depending on whether I still feel fine in the morning, or whether it turns out the ket was masking the sickness all along). At this dose and with no ket in my system, I'd describe the way I feel as somewhat approximate to sober - neither notably high nor at all sick. I'm starting to wonder whether this panic buy of gear was completely unnecessary, but it wouldn't surprise me if things get uglier yet.

QUESTION TIME: I am only using the diazepam for sleep at the moment as I've felt no real need to kill off any anxiety. From what I've read, it seems that it is recommended to take your diaz right before bed for sleep purposes. However, I'm wondering with the long half-life and me wanting to get work done during the day whether it would maybe make more sense to take it earlier in the evening so that I am less groggy in the morning?Does this sound logical? So far I have been using 20-30mg but based on how I'm feeling on this particular evening I'm going to try just 10mg tonight. Nevertheless, the best timing for optimal sleep and minimal groggyness in the morning is what I'm after. I don't mind getting slightly wonky a couple of hours before bed ;)
 
Yeh - diazepams primary objectively noticeable effects last for at least the first 5 hours or so after you have taken them before it fades into a background effect for the rest of its active duration. Take it an hour or 3 before bedtime and you can enjoy a bit of mongy chill at the right end of your sleep time.
 
The opposite with me.....I had no intentions of leaving the house but did....only to return many hours later minus phone and wallet...

Never had any benzos for nearly a year so have no intention of going down that painful road again....talking of painful how do benzos allways lead to unexplained scratches on my head?.....probably best I dont know:)
 
i've been a heavy user for the last 7 years recently i've been on everything i started off with hydro 5's then 10's but now i don't even feel them anymore as of two months ago i was on 300-400Mg oxys a day to 120mg dones i've tried quitting before with no success this time i made it my mission to succeed over the last 40 days I've tapered down on subs to just .5MG a day which i completely stopped 6 days ago I've been on about 12MG (6 pills) of Imodium (Loperamid) a day to help with the withdrawals it hasn't been pretty the worst part is the sleeping at night and it just doesn't seem to be getting better but i'm hoping for the best i know a lot of people are saying you shouldn't be on loperamid for more then 6 days either but i'm afraid if i stopped them i'd feel even worse then i do so i'm confused as to what to even do this is the furthest I've ever gotten and i really don't want to screw it up
 
i've been a heavy user for the last 7 years recently i've been on everything i started off with hydro 5's then 10's but now i don't even feel them anymore as of two months ago i was on 300-400Mg oxys a day to 120mg dones i've tried quitting before with no success this time i made it my mission to succeed over the last 40 days I've tapered down on subs to just .5MG a day which i completely stopped 6 days ago I've been on about 12MG (6 pills) of Imodium (Loperamid) a day to help with the withdrawals it hasn't been pretty the worst part is the sleeping at night and it just doesn't seem to be getting better but i'm hoping for the best i know a lot of people are saying you shouldn't be on loperamid for more then 6 days either but i'm afraid if i stopped them i'd feel even worse then i do so i'm confused as to what to even do this is the furthest I've ever gotten and i really don't want to screw it up

The thing is mate that loperamide can have some nasty prolonged withdrawls of it's own...IF it's taken in high doses with PGP and/or CYP-450 inhibitors. 12mg isnt a high dose at all (some people take many, many times that). I'd recommend cutting a pill every day and I'm sure you'll be fine.

Congratulations on the taper though...well done.

I could never taper personally....I'd rather just bite the bullet and stop but that's just me.
 
Woke up once more feeling strangely fine at 14 hours from last 120mg DHC dose. Not sure if I've just overestimated the severity of the withdrawals or if I'm just expecting too much too soon from medium acting opiates. At 14 hours from last butyr fent dose I was feeling pretty close to incapacitated at 14 hours... Hell I was starting to feel pretty rough (oversensitivity, loss of temperature regulation, loss of appetite) at about 6 hours. What do you guys reckon?

Either way, I'll hold off on my first dose of the day until I start feeling something. Also starting to think the panic order of gear was a bad idea. Will have to check to see if its been dispatched, might be a possibility of cancelling it.
 
Usually wds don't peak until day 3. Day 1 is usually pretty easy even for fast acting opiates/opioids like heroin , fentanyl etc. By day 3 things start to bite and unless you have a strong mind you'll be in a world of pain.

I can't emphasise enough that you're overthinking it and that ordering more heroin was a mistake....when this batch runs out you're wds will be that much harder.

Withdrawl is nothing to be scared of. The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.
 
Probably a mad thought, but I noticed I was actually slightly constipated at around 13 hours after last dose despite eating loads yesterday... Could it be possible that all that ket either potentiated or reset my tolerance, even if only temporarily? I have nothing to back this up except from todays experience so take with several pinches of salt.
 
Usually wds don't peak until day 3. Day 1 is usually pretty easy even for fast acting opiates/opioids like heroin , fentanyl etc. By day 3 things start to bite and unless you have a strong mind you'll be in a world of pain.

I can't emphasise enough that you're overthinking it and that ordering more heroin was a mistake....when this batch runs out you're wds will be that much harder.

Withdrawl is nothing to be scared of. The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.

Fair enough G, in that case ignore my last comment. I'll keep an open mind about cancelling that order, there might still be time.
 
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