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Opioid E-cig?

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ABeautifulMind

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Okay, once again, I don't know where to out this, because I still can't navigate Bluelight. But I have an interesting one.
My friend specializes in E-cigs/vape pens. He makes them, and knows his way around them pretty well. He had the idea of taking some kind of opioid, (hydrocodone, hydromorphone, oxycodone etc..) And making them smokable as an e-liquid, with a vegetable glycerin/ propylene glycol base. I say, it's impossible, and would require major synthesis, and that if he had even the slightest chance, it'd be with oxy. But maybe I'm wrong. Does anyone have any info to shed light on this subject. I'd love to be proven wrong, because it's a rad idea. Thanks.
 
that'd be cool

i don't know how e-cigs work but i guess you'd need to convert the salts to a base for them to be smokeable, so i guess the easiest option would be heroin #3 as it is already freebase.

you could try dissolving it in propylene glycol and vaping that mixture. could work who knows, i don't know much chemistry

someone in NPD could answer this better
 
Well if it's a heroin salt (HCl or what have you) maybe you could dissolve it in something, but I think the amount of dope you could dissolve in a given amount of solvent wouldn't be enough given the size of liquid an e-cigg holds.
 
I've smoked blues in the past. I wasn't impressed with the effects but making a mixture with glycerin into an e liquid would work. Expensive to get a nice dose though
 
EarthBounded said:
I believe any freebase would work with propylene glycol. that's actually a good idea, but would harm a lot of receptors !
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Are you saying if I took the substance, and did a wash, as you would to purify dope, then that hcl salt form would then be smokeable in the liquid?
 
I don't know how they do it or what they look like but one form of prescription Diamorphine in the Netherlands is 80% Dia' Freebase and 20% caffeine to help it vaporise. Not sure if it's a pharmacy made cigarette, an e-cig or something else.

I read a while back over at Drugs-Forum (Not sure if it's .com) they had a thread about this and I think the OP had a Heroin e-cig and gave instructions. It's the drugs forum where they do or did that SWIM shite all the time.
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It sounds like a great idea, but back in the days when I worked EMS I know some college students who though nebulizing alcohol was a great idea too and they got severe alcohol poising plus pneumonia off only about 6oz of vodka (between the two of them or 3oz a piece). Absorption rates in the lungs are far different its not just about the chemistry of making it work but the medical science of not killing yourself in the process.
 
Nebulizing alcohol? Jesus. And I thought people were stupid for IVing it. That's ridiculous. Pretty sure the oral bioavailability does the job pretty well.
And yes, I know it can be done with heroin. Unfortunately, he isn't open to the idea, and I'm trying heroin for the first time this weekend. So that's out of the question. But I figured it was worth a shot. I think we'll just stick with eating pills, and vaping nicotine. But thanks to everyone who chimed in.
 
purifying your drugs would be great but not really what you need, you need to turn the salt into freebase... considering you don't want h, you'd have to extract whatever opiate you have from the pill of your choice and then convert it to freebase, just like turning coke into crack.

may be you could even use the same tek and use ammonia, don't know if it'd work though.

realistically speaking it would be too much of a hassle to do with anything other than heroin i guess
 
i'm not sure if this is BS (i don't smoke, so i wouldn't know), but i have heard of people e-smoking opium in those weird hookah looking device things.
 
This sounds like a great idea... if you want your tolerance to sky rocket. Do you really want to pair opiates with a frequent habit like smoking? I can only see this leading to increased frequency of dosing, increased tolerance, and increased risk of overdose from not being able to properly gauge how much you are using.
 
Most opiates weigh too much to vaporize with a standard ecig. I could see freebase heroin working idk about anything else.

Chronic Asshole said:
This sounds like a great idea... if you want your tolerance to sky rocket. Do you really want to pair opiates with a frequent habit like smoking? I can only see this leading to increased frequency of dosing, increased tolerance, and increased risk of overdose from not being able to properly gauge how much you are using.
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That's not true if you're switching from IV.
 
Chronic Asshole said:
This sounds like a great idea... if you want your tolerance to sky rocket. Do you really want to pair opiates with a frequent habit like smoking? I can only see this leading to increased frequency of dosing, increased tolerance, and increased risk of overdose from not being able to properly gauge how much you are using.
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It wouldn't be a frequent thing. We were just wondering if it was even possible. It wouldn't become a habit, like, "oh, let me take my opioid smoke break". No. Even then, we're all kids who have our own dependences, tolerances, and daily habits. It was just an inquiry, because we like to experiment.
 
ABeautifulMind said:
It wouldn't be a frequent thing. We were just wondering if it was even possible. It wouldn't become a habit, like, "oh, let me take my opioid smoke break". No. Even then, we're all kids who have our own dependences, tolerances, and daily habits. It was just an inquiry, because we like to experiment.
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Google 'Madak', its how the Chinese used to smoke opium before pipes. Lord Henry Wooton smokes a lot of it in The Picture of Dorian Gray.

Oh, and it is almost certainly a really bad idea.
 
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Well I for one think it's a great idea, that would improve my health. I've been pondering it for a while may try with bupe.
 
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