Opiods and Steroids

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dznutzx

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Hi,

I need some assistance.
I've been on methadone for 4 years now and have used steroids off and on for the past year.
I've never experienced any side effects from steroids, but now that I've been away from them for about 2 months, I've noticed a mild case of galactorrhea, and a mild development of gynecomastia.
I immediately started letrozole for estrogen inhibition, and pramipexole for prolactin inhibtion.
Now I have read studies about the effects of methdone, and because it's blocking the receptors, the pramipexole isn't working right.

I'm wondering...should a higher dose of prami help?
and as soon as the methadone has cleared my system, should the prami start to work? or has the methadone caused like a desensitization that is giving me trouble producing dopamine?
 
Dang dude! Think about sobering up off that methadone, you've been on it for four years?!?! What's the point anymore? To stay high i am guessing.. In my opinion you're really damaging your body and setting yourself up for lifetime addiction. Sorry i wish i could answer your technical problem but i don't want to bluff and act like i know. I can tell you this much - clean up and your body will follow...
 
high from methadone? Never once did even at 120mg. im now down to 9mg. it is a process.
 
I have the same exact shit!! It'll be 2 years that i've been on methadone maintenace in January and I've done a couple cycles of deca and i blew up like crazy and now i can't lose the weight and i have devoloped a minor case of gyno... let me know if that estrogen blocker works... Now my primary care doc has me on testosterone replacement therapy because my body isn't producing testosterone on it's own anymore... I think from doing steroids too much and then i think methadone can lower your t levels.
 
i took the liberty of copying your thread to Other Drugs, and i also changed the title to be more specific, and help draw attention of some one who might be familiar with these drugs inparticular.

G/L
 
hmm, interesting

i've actually read reports that opiates can lower testosterone levels

with that theory, if your body becomes low in testosterone it offsets the estrogen/testosterone balance which therefore can produce gyno

Weed supposedly lowers testosterone as well.

A bit off topic but... 4 months ago I got gyno surgery, for a medium case of non-steroid induced life-time gyno that runs in my family. My chest was 100% flat afterwards.

Well, a few weeks ago I went on a minor OC binge along with a ton of weed, and now I have a small gyno 'ball' in each of my breasts again. This time around, they're tender/they hurt. I think I may have to repeat the surgery again, all because of opiates and my own stupidity.
 
you guys are the reasons why steroid users have such a bad rap...get off the street drugs or learn to control them before using these performance enhancers..
 
PARooolller said:
you guys are the reasons why steroid users have such a bad rap...get off the street drugs or learn to control them before using these performance enhancers..
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what are you retarted bud?

steroids have a bad rap because the media and athletic commissions have coined them as some horrific substance, when really, few if any people have ever died from them. As a matter of fact, for all intensive purposes, they can be good for you. NO one I know associates steroids (often times a doctor prescribed substance), with hard street drugs, besides cops.

my question is, why don't you just save your breath and head over to bodybuilding.com or another anabolic related site and join the straight edge pre-madonnas where you belong?
 
needshelpnow said:
what are you retarted bud?

steroids have a bad rap because the media and athletic commissions have coined them as some horrific substance, when really, few if any people have ever died from them. As a matter of fact, for all intensive purposes, they can be good for you. NO one I know associates steroids (often times a doctor prescribed substance), with hard street drugs, besides cops.

my question is, why don't you just save your breath and head over to bodybuilding.com or another anabolic related site and join the straight edge pre-madonnas where you belong?
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Shut up.
 
PARooolller said:
Shut up.
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i apologize for being an asshole, I see you've contributed in my other thread, thanks

but am i wrong dude??

honestly, I'm sick and tired of going on bodybuilding forums and seeing threads where people admit they smoke a little weed, or use a little bit of this or that and the entire thread gets ridiculous and people demonize the use and coin the person a junkie.

just didn't expect to see that here

it IS the medias fault that steroids have a bad name, not other illicit street drug users and crack junkies
 
i know all about the media and their fault blah blah blah...Weed and recreational drugs are fine on cycle if you DON'T OVER DO IT... I believe you were talkkng about daily use of opiates while on cycle...personally, i don't think i would be psychologically strong enough to run a cycle while balls deep in addiction
 
PARooolller said:
i know all about the media and their fault blah blah blah...Weed and recreational drugs are fine on cycle if you DON'T OVER DO IT... I believe you were talkkng about daily use of opiates while on cycle...personally, i don't think i would be psychologically strong enough to run a cycle while balls deep in addiction
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i hear what you're saying sir, and I concur

although there's a big difference between a 10mg a day hydrocodone, a couple poppy pods, or someone who's on a methadone program for maintenance vs. shooting up large amounts of intravenous street H or railing OC 80's one after another

i've just started my cycle of 1AD, it's the kind that was discontinued in 2005.. Will report in on how it goes.
 
1 andro is strong as fuck...really harsh with the side effects though...I'm thorwing in my designer steroid towel...my last cycle came with too many sides
 
PARooolller said:
1 andro is strong as fuck...really harsh with the side effects though...I'm thorwing in my designer steroid towel...my last cycle came with too many sides
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what sides did u experience?

and at what dose??

Last time i ran a cylce of 1AD I had barely any sides besides minor sweating and minor night-time ampedness/anger/irritation. I gained like 16 pounds all-together with at least 10-12 pounds of clean muscle.

This was last time:

week1: 200mg
week2: 200mg
week3: 300mg
week4: 300mg


This time I only have 60caps, so i'm going to do 200mg(2 pills) a day for 4 weeks.

Honestly, I just took the pill a few hours ago.. I know my body pretty well, so I doubt it's placebo, but I was feeling amped like 30 minutes after taking it orally..!

As I said I am a daily user of opiates and pot in trace amounts, so could this feeling of amped energy and focus be a sign of things leveling out between my estrogen and testosterone levels due to supplementing with an external source that ups testosterone?
 
200mg a day for 8 weeks......hair thinning, breakouts on forehead, 0 libido, weird aggression and irritability..recovery took 30 days with clomid pct
 
I kicked MMT after being on 220mg - I tapered some but then had enough of the whole gig, 7 1/2 weeks of withdrawals is brutal. My suggestion, worry about one thing at a time - if you can do one thing well, you are ahead of most people. I don't know how they interact because last thing I was thinking about was the gym during that period of my life, but I wouldn't recommend using any gear w/a daily dose of methadone just to be one the safe side. Kick it - make sure your life is in order, then run. Just my 2 cents.
 
hair thinning from andro? holy shit..

although I can't help but think the 8 weeks could have been the problem. with other substances, probably not an issue to do a 6-8 week cycle, but with andro i'd probably recomend around 6 max from what I've read around various forums, and felt in my own body.

then again, 200mg a day even for 8 weeks isn't THAT much, i've read reports of people doing 400-500mg at weeks 3-6 in a 6 week cycle

i did also experience a loss of libido as well and minor lethargy back during my 2005 1AD cycle now that i think about it..
 
methodone is no good,IMO try tapering done enough were you can stop and/or get on suboxone for the opioid dependency.the problem with the done is you retain water and on it,that is only one of many down sides to the methodone as you know.suboxone has many fewer side effects so whenits time to end treatment its a lot easer to come off.I have empathy for you though I am recovering addict and found my new drug of choice is physical/health enhancement by working out and making healthy knowledgeable decisions in my life with that said you should really get a professional medical opinion.Some doctors are cool about it and will advise you in proper AAS consumption.Hope all woks out for you.
 
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