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opiates... how far would you go?

I'm in pain every day. I'd rather not be. Opiates take the edge off of my pain and allows me to function. I'd never dream of hurting myself for medication, nor would I want someone to be in the same pain I am because they did.
 
This reminds me of that kid (can't remember his name) from the tv show "Eight is Enough" He threw himself down a flight of stairs in hopes he could get some type of pain meds. That was just sad to hear. I have a friend who went to the emergency room and faked a kidney stone attack, complaining of severe back pain. When they asked for a urine sample, she pricked her finger for some drops of blood to add to it. Right away they gave her a shot of some pain medication. I mean that is drastic measures! I personally could never resort to something like that. I would go see my doctor and explain my dilemma. I did several years ago, in tears and this doctor was so understanding and tried to help me immediately. He made some phone calls to get me into treatment and find a hospital that had a bed open. I will never forget his kindness. I would suggest getting some professional help because there are good doctors who can help you and really do care! ~theresa
 
Good doctors who could help with what? Methadone? Bupe? Lock-up in Psych programs? It sucks that opiate addiction can get serious enough to contemplate self-harm, but its just another form of crazyness that comes with the territory. For all the users who have no choice but to spend ridiculous sums of money on H or other people's pills, I would find it VERY hard to believe that so few of them never contemplated some kind of scheme to get their own script. Whether or not they follow through with those self-injuring ideas has to do with their own beliefs and level of desperation. To me, it doesn't seem worth it considering the amount of problems you'd have to have to get anything worthwhile, but I am sure this is a situation many other opiate addicts have contemplated before.
 
canucka said:
starts out as a little of everything you just said usually.. but after a while it becomes maintenance.. and its not fun once its maintenance.. its jus a desperate, fucked up cycle of barely scraping by while staving off junk sickness.. its really not a high after that..
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dam that fucking sux!
 
To Moogmania,
This doctor got me into a rehab hospital for a 5 day detox on suboxone. I was admitted that same afternoon. Believe me, I needed it. Then I was placed in an outpatient program. I had a bad oxy habit.
 
T Cal-
Does that mean you're clean now? Cause if so that's very cool. I've been through suboxone/methadone multiple times each and it always seemed like a substitute and waste of $. Then after spending some seriously miserable time in rehab I was still only clean for like 2 days. Obviously this isn't the experience for everyone, and people should definitely do whatever it takes to quit if they have to, but until modern medicine finds a better way to treat addiction, the idea that a cure is right around the corner at your local dr's office can be a dangerous delusion for many addicts who don't realize they're in for the long haul.
 
Yea I will never go back to a lock down hospital type detox its just 2 big of a risk for opiates as you usually have to tell them ur suicidal to get admitted after that you have 0 control over your treatment which can be fuckin hell.
 
A couple years ago when i was really hooked on oxys and heroin i remember talking to one of my best friends about this. He said he'd take a hit to the back with a baseball bat for an oxy script. I said that i would let car run over my foot for a script. We never actually did anything like that and probably wouldn't get a script for those injuries... just nod talk. :|

I did use to buy some oxys off a guy that had been shot in the legs and arms.
 
crimson-
Abso-fucking-lutely. That was the biggest turn off to the entire inpatient rehab bullshit fiasco for me-- that total lack of control. I was in there voluntarily, and I asked about a hundred times if I could leave when I wanted during my admission, but once you're inside its a totally different story. After 2 days of attempted brainwashing and forced meetings with the same 12 people (and I'm pretty sure 4 or 5 of them either killed/raped/did something else really terrible to someone in their past) I asked to leave, but they threatened to keep me there for 9 months minimum. They thought I was a danger to myself and others and would do anything to use as soon as I got out, including self-harm. I never once indicated to them that I was ever seriously considering hurting myself for drugs, but that's the diagnosis they slapped on me to try and keep me there. They let me go after I told them they would have to take me in front of a judge to keep me there. Though it technically isn't related to self-harm, its definitely worth reading up on the Rosenhan Experiments for an interesting view on psych treatment diagnoses and the amazing amount of bullshit that usually goes into them.
 
I thought this was a harm reduction forum. Dude I dont wanna judge you but that is really fucked up. I thought of robbing a pharmacy by just jumping the counter because I knew exactly where they kept what a wanted and I also used to work as a cashier at CVS. sometimes they would ask me to help hang prescriptions in alphabetical s order and I would see exactly what was in the bag so I would could of easily jacked that shit. However, I never got the courage cuz I new they had cameras there.

I say just buy shit off the streets. You would need way more money if you injured yourself that badly to get serious medication even with insurance. Drugs alone hurt your body alone. Unless you wanna die young, go ahead and do that. The combination of serious injury and abuse of drugs will def kill you pretty soon.

Of course I thought about breaking my arm or some shit like that to get medication but those thoughts were more humorous or hypothetical than anything. Kinda like driving down a mountain road and thinking what if I just drive down that cliff...would I survive. Anyways dude please don't do it. People that actually have serious illnesses (cancer, HIV, herniated discs, etc.) would give up anything to be healthy like you again.

This is coming from a person with a huge opiate problem
 
moogmania said:
crimson-
Abso-fucking-lutely. That was the biggest turn off to the entire inpatient rehab bullshit fiasco for me-- that total lack of control. I was in there voluntarily, and I asked about a hundred times if I could leave when I wanted during my admission, but once you're inside its a totally different story. After 2 days of attempted brainwashing and forced meetings with the same 12 people (and I'm pretty sure 4 or 5 of them either killed/raped/did something else really terrible to someone in their past) I asked to leave, but they threatened to keep me there for 9 months minimum. They thought I was a danger to myself and others and would do anything to use as soon as I got out, including self-harm. I never once indicated to them that I was ever seriously considering hurting myself for drugs, but that's the diagnosis they slapped on me to try and keep me there. They let me go after I told them they would have to take me in front of a judge to keep me there. Though it technically isn't related to self-harm, its definitely worth reading up on the Rosenhan Experiments for an interesting view on psych treatment diagnoses and the amazing amount of bullshit that usually goes into them.
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Wow, very interesting read on the Rosenhan Experiments. Thanks =D
 
opiates make me think of crazy shit like this all the time. I too have thought about injuring my self or hopping over the counter of a pharmacy and stealing some shit but Im too much of a pussy for that shit. Dont wanna go to Prison! I just buy of the street. The money part sucks but since I switched from oxys and diluadids to just tar. You get more for your money. Dont rob no one, dont rip no one off and dont steal from your family and you wont have to look over your shoulder. I never have been that kind of junkie. I had friends who ripped dealers off all the time and they ended up getting fucked up.

Thanks Everyone,
Have a nice night
 
Look man, your question is against the rules of this site, but I am not going to bitch at you for asking like a few people have. If you really think that you need to hurt yourself to get OC then you are either young and inexperienced in life or you must be unconfident in yourself and your abilities as an actor. Lets just say, if you want something bad enough, you can make it happen. I don't care where you live in the US, there are doctors that will write you a script for whatever you ask for, if you provide a vaild enough reason. I wouldn't go into the doctors office asking for 80's but start off small, build the doctors trust, and who knows, in a few months, those roxy 15-30's just aren't cutting it, you might need something that you can take once in the morning and have it last you the whole day.
 
Zombartie said:
People that actually have serious illnesses (cancer, HIV, herniated discs, etc.) would give up anything to be healthy like you again.
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I have Leukemia (blood cancer), and let me tell you, all the shit I have to go through is not worth the pills. chemotherapy sucks, and its not the therapy itself, its the side effects of the chemotherapy medicine that suck. THATS why they give me the pills, because the cancer settles in my joints, and then the chemotherapy attacks those joints making it very painful. mine is mostly in my hips (because I also got a fucked up knee, and walk with a cane) and I think my limping makes my hips hurt worse.

but again, let me say this, you're gonna have to have something serious to get any kind of script worth anything, and thats just not worth it.
 
Farthest Id go, Hang out with shady fucks all day and have that become your life.

owait
 
I'll be the first one to tell you that an opiate high is a GREAT thing, and I enjoy it very much on occasion. I used to have a deep addiction to opiates and when you get to the point of needing them to not feel sick, it isn't fun anymore, it's just maintenance. I have only experienced a full opiate withdrawal once, and let me tell you that was enough to make me never want to go through that again. I didn't do any opiates whatsoever for almost a year after that. Every now and then I'll do a pain pill or a stamp bag, but my rule now is never more than 2 days in a row and not without at least a week in between. The withdrawal is not worth it. Also, the high is much more enjoyable when your tolerance isn't through the roof.
 
If you do opiates enough you get to the point where the high isn't even that great. When I was younger I used to do some stupid shit for opiates, but as I got older I started gaining more restraint. Once you get to the point where your miserable even when your high it's easier to not use.
 
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