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Opiates are pretty hard to get high with :l

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Alx4m916

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I took a 5mg Percocet (oxycodone) yesterday. Than about 2-3 hours later, I had a norco (10mg hydrocodone). And than about an hour or an hour and a half later I dropped 4 5mg vicodins (20mgs hydrocodone). This would put me at 30mg Hydrocodone and 5mg Oxycodone. I never really did opiates before. Last year, I took like 10mg oxycodone and a year and a half ago I took about 25mg of vicodins but thats all. I weight about 185-190 pounds if that matters. What exactly is the opiate high? All I get it is a tipsy type of feeling. No insane euphoria. I was trying to reach the nod, how exactly do I do this and how much should I take? Or atleast how much should I take for euphoria?
 
Opiates are subtle drugs. This is often forgotten, because of how euphoric they can be. The effects of opiates are an accquired taste for some people, either they have to get to "know" the effects better or "like" the effects more, or both. They don't fuck you up like a lot of GABA-ergics (e.g. booze, benzos), and they aren't like amphetamines where the euphoria is "pervasive". They have a soft touch to them. They provide warm, cozy euphoria and emotional analgesia (pain-killing). They are the bee's knees IMO, but a lot of people report similar to what you have reported. Some people just don't "get" opiates the first few times. I was not one of those people, however, even I couldn't appreciate the amount and quality of euphoria of my first opiate experience until I was more versed in how they effect me.
 
I wouldn't, no. Considering your lack of response to the opiates, I wouldn't go too low the next time, but 50 mg is too high. Maybe try 30 mg next time, on an empty stomach, and maybe after a warm bath. Then just relax, and let effects role over you.
 
Maybe the effects weren't as strong as they could be because I didn't take them all at once? Would 40mg all at once be too much?
 
Alex answered your question pretty good. I use to be a heavy OC user. Was also a weekend warrior and when the weekend came around I would dose heavy with OC, usually snort three 80s in a night then the next day dose the same amount. I new this heroin addict that used to sell me methadone once a month also

throughout the week I'd F around with any other opiates I could get my hands on

fast forward to 2-3 weeks ago, I hadn't used any opiates whatsoever for over a year and when came across a chance to chase that dragon I took it

I snorted two 80s and felt great

crazy if you think about the fact that I used NO opiate AT ALL for over a year and my tolerance was still that high

also, since the wax in the OCs now I think its kind of useless to snort them since they barely break up

and thats prob why I had to dose so high this time..was because I wasnt absorbing that much of it
 
50mg hydrocodone for somebody that's just starting out into opiates is a very high dose.

As has been said, opiates a subtle drugs and aren't for everybody.
 
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50mg hydrocodone for somebody that's just starting out into opiates is a very high dose.

As has been said, opiates a subtle drugs and aren't for everybody.
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A friend of mine OD'd on this dose of this drug several years ago. OP - your list of intake and time apart does NOT lead me to believe 50mg of hydrocodone is appropriate for you to take. I would suggest you lower your dose a bit and learn the high. It's not blatantly obvious like LSD is. My first experience was with 80mg of oxycodone (OxyContin), and I had no positive euphoria. Once I learned my "sweet-spot" was ~20mg, I was much better off in every way.

Continue to stay at low doses. You don't want to get into the higher dose range with opiates, believe me (and I never even got past 100mg/day of oxycodone).
 
I never understood opiates my first time either. Like people are saying it's also preference. You may be feeling the effects and just don't really care for them or maybe you just need to try a few times. Take them all at once but I wouldnt take more than 30mgs yet.

After like 3 tries i finally got that euphoria. I put a robe on, sat in a comfy couch and thought wow this is sooo niceee. So it may be your setting isn't right either. Get really comfy and relaxed. even though you may not be feeling it your tolerance is still rising so wait a few days to try again.
 
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Opiates are subtle drugs. This is often forgotten, because of how euphoric they can be. The effects of opiates are an accquired taste for some people, either they have to get to "know" the effects better or "like" the effects more, or both. They don't fuck you up like a lot of GABA-ergics (e.g. booze, benzos), and they aren't like amphetamines where the euphoria is "pervasive". They have a soft touch to them. They provide warm, cozy euphoria and emotional analgesia (pain-killing). They are the bee's knees IMO, but a lot of people report similar to what you have reported. Some people just don't "get" opiates the first few times. I was not one of those people, however, even I couldn't appreciate the amount and quality of euphoria of my first opiate experience until I was more versed in how they effect me.
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This is spot on IMO. I think lots of users hear about opiate euphoria before they start with them and expect too much. Opiates IME do not produce the full-on euphoria that Es or other psyches / stims do. Rather they produce a sense of contentment. It's more of a don't-give-a-fuck-ness that let's you be happy in an empty room. That's a different kind of euphoria altogether. Certainly I had to get to like Heroin after being used to Es, and I got addicted to it not because it was euphoria producing like Es were, but because the don't-give-a-fuck-ness made it easy to get through the days, and was something I could do day in, day out.
 
My first time with opiates, my gf at the time pushed the syringe into my arm and injected what was a small amount (to her) or tar heroin. I warm, cozy euphoira'd right out of the car (had to be pulled out and carried) and was unconscious for hours. Because it's so subtle.
 
Thanks for all the help. If I feel slight nausea, should I drop the dose? I had a little nausea at even 25mg of hydrocodones at once before. The effects were minimal though, so I thought I need to take more. Personally I like oxycodone more. The first time I did it, I actually took 15mg but I didn't crush it up. When I took 10mg, I did crush it up and it was stronger but still very slight. To me, oxycodone feels more clean and clear. I also have NEVER had any negative side effects on oxycodone. On 10mg I laid down to go to sleep but I guess I was slightly nodding for an hour. It felt like forever, but than I looked at the time and only one hour went by. I heard some auditory hallucinations which scared a bit, but that's not negative, I just wasn't expecting it.
 
Also is there anything I can do to get a better chance of nodding? Is nodding at 30-40mg common?
 
My first couple of times using opiates I did not feel them at all. It took me until the 4th or 5th time using to experience the euphoria with in them. IMO don't even bother with hydrocodone, just get some Percs or get your hands on some Roxycodone if you can. They are tiny little blue or green pills (Depending on what mg they are) easy to blow and taste great. I think changing your ROA would make a difference. I do not reccomend taking 50mg if your opiate shy. You can overdose. I wouldn't go higher then 30mg
 
OP, don't care for Opiates? Good, keep it that way.

Honestly, I find it disgusting how some people are giving you advice on how to get high from Opiates. Their one of, if not the most addictive substances around. As much as I fucking love them, I would never want to introduce them to somebody, or help someone get addicted to them.

With that said, if you're already hell bent on finding out what people love about them, take it slow and tread softly. This shit is no joke.
 
J. Wallace I appreciate your concern but I don't plan on getting addicted (who does though?). I just got a prescription for some pain I have, it's a one time prescription. I figured this is the perfect time to try it out and see what it's like.
 
J.Wallace said:
I find it disgusting how some people are giving you advice on how to get high from Opiates. Their one of, if not the most addictive substances around. As much as I fucking love them, I would never want to introduce them to somebody, or help someone get addicted to them.
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What would you prefer? That we ignore the question, or just repeat ad nauseam that opiates are addictive and potentially deadly? I'm pretty sure the OP knows that already. Proper harm reduction is helping him do opiates safely if he's determined to use them so he's hopefully still alive at the end of it, exactly as some posters above have tried to do.
 
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It may just be you have a natural sort of tolerance, which is something that I have to deal with (watching my mates take less than a fifth my usual dose and get nodding off it is very annoying :p)

As Alex said, they're very subtle drugs to begin with, don't expect to be completely fukkt. That said, if you have a natural tolerance, just try titrating your dose up gradually until you get where you want to be. You could also try potentiating with DXM, antihistamines, and Magnesium supplements, though i'd advise you keep well away from other downers like benzos for now.
 
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