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Opiates and Exercise

i appreciate everyones input. my workout is not that intense so im not too worried.
 
i dont feel like im nodding at all. actually sometimes i do feel like that but its rare. vicodin, tramadol and even pod tea gives me a speedy type of high first then hours later is when i tend to nod off but i mean 4-5 hours later. is this normal?
 
I had a disc injury but still wanted to run. I was more addicted to running than to opiates at this point. Long story short, kept running on serious pain (8 out of 10 pain scale) and ruptured my disc. A bunch of the disc material ended up in my spinal canal. Had to have surgery, still recovering (3 years later). So, you know, don't be like me, use common sense.
 
vicodin, tramadol and even pod tea gives me a speedy type of high first, then hours later is when i tend to nod off but i mean 4-5 hours later. is this normal?
 
second650 said:
vicodin, tramadol and even pod tea gives me a speedy type of high first, then hours later is when i tend to nod off but i mean 4-5 hours later. is this normal?[/QUO


In my opinion, Yes it's extremely normal....for most people I'd say the peak lasts about 2 hours though...for me and my "peers" it does I guess.=D but i think it really comes down to metabolizing....

I don't think enough people understand the strong effects that physical training have with potentiaiting drugs, the experience itself, the withdrawals from the drug, the depency to the drug...Every factor.

I know friends who can take 20 mg hydrocodone daily and still claim to "get high" for years but I'm actually on 55 mgs hydrocodone as I type this and my peak is very short-lived...whatever......i have friends who have done, and still do, 200 + mg oxycodone per week for years...

I actually had a best friend pass away 2 weeks ago as a result of poly-drug use, oxycontin most likely being a large contributing to his heart and fucking brain failure. Alcohol was also in the mix....

Be careful guys...It's a beautiful life...DON'T ABUSE IT.
 
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phrozen said:
Could be dangerous for the reasons 6/7 mentioned. Also, it may mask pain so you could end not noticing it and causing some serious harm.




I'd save the opiates for after the work out.


x2!
 
honestly not the best idea. Maybe take the opies after you workout . You'll enjoy it more and feel waaaaaaaaay better.
 
ok i had to dust off ye ole' bluelight account and login to reply to this post

bloody hell mate that has to be the stupidest thing you could ever do! christ! i implore you DONT DO IT for fucks sake!

the potential for doing some SERIOUS damage to yourself whilst working out is the biggest no no. christ just read what that guy did to his pecks on the first page! pain is there for a reason, its a signal to say 'stop doing what your doing unless you want to hurt yourself more!'

when doing weights its incredibly important to listen to your body and what its saying to you. work out too hard and youll end up damaging yourself. even when going for a light run you might pull something and have absolutely no idea, even if you do feel it (which i bet you would) it still wouldnt be as profound as it would be if you were sober mate. a potentially serious problem might be shrugged off and a minor 'cramp' and shit keep on runnin and your in serious trouble.

not to mention that you need to break up days of your exercise. you cannot exercise everyday and hope to get away with it, and im talking weights here. unless you specifically targetted different muscle groups every day then sure, but still the next day your going to be sore. and if your too doped up to realise and go and work out those muscles well your doing more harm than good my friend.

when your working out it has to be 110% body and spirit, no fucking drugs. if your not motivated enough to go sober, then dont my friend, but dont introduce something that could potentially harm the fuck out of you.

now if this wasnt important enough, there are other reasons why being on opiates is counter intuitive whilst working out. the body requires energy and oxygen to function. these demands are raised when exercising. now given your bodys CNS is depressed from the opiates (especially your natural breathing rhythms) this is going to hinder your bloody well abilities to lift weights, run long distances, anything.

key to any exercise is controlling and maintaining your breathing. how the fuck are you gonna do that if its bloody well blunted to begin with?

going to the gym/exercising im all for it, i encourage it, but not some half assed attitude thats making you take one step back for every two steps forwards.

now listen to everyone here, and do yourself a favour, take the opiates AFTERWARDS. god youll fuckin love it ok. itll be like taking a muscle relaxant aswell, youll be a big puddle of jello.

sorry to be so goddamned hard about this but fuck man, dont mess around with this shit, dont take your body for granted, not all wounds heal man, some are for life.

so fuckin keep workin out and loose the dope until after ok?
 
I feel some way in the middle.

I would not use opiates while doing weight training due to the very real risks of overdoing it or injuring yourself.

However, I would ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY agree with using opiates while running. Shinsplints may be a worry, as with sprains (although, you would likely notice a sprain even while on the opiates). But, by and large, I think the benefit of being able to push past your burning lungs and tired legs is negligable in its ability to injure, but great for getting in the longest run you can. And also, rather than running until you collapse, set a time period or distance to run that you KNOW isnt enough to destroy your body, but that is slightly more intense than what you would do if working out sober.
 
Yes & No

Well, I am a bit gym freak and go every day, I'm also on suboxone maintenance. I usually take my daily dose just before going to the gym for an hour or two. I find that it does effect me but very subtly, when running I notice my heart rate is slightly lower (say 10 bpm throughout 30 minutes of running). I can't imagine working out while completely monged out though, it would be very hard to put in the effort and I don't believe it would be fun.

It's definitely easier to work on when on CNS depressants than on stimulants I feel that having your heart rate rise so high is stupid when trying to work out.

It's also worth noting that if your talking IV opiate use weight lifting afterward is a little stupid. The higher pressure inside veins when lifting weights can cause leakage into the skin and also cause bruising around injection sites.
 
yeah well those days are gone. now that ive been popping tramadol everyday
my tolerance is way too high and im barely getting high anymore. im lazy as hell and havent worked out all week. must start a taper. ive been depressed, and nervous when the tramadol wears off. if i only dose once a day ill have the damn runs in the evening. now ive really done it. any tips on how to get back to normal?
 
man it really didnt take you long at all. dont want to be a 'toldja so' but mixing drugs with anything productive never works.

tell us what you've been doing to get this tolerance of yours then we can advise accordingly ya?
 
second650 said:
Anyone in here use opiates to get a great workout? ive used vicodin, tramadol and even pod tea to get the most of my workouts. what are your thoughts people?


Yes, I've used opiates to workout harder many a time. They help me push myself. I've never injured myself in the weight room or come close to it, even when on opiates. Usually, I choose reps over weight though, or find a happy medium. I can work out so much better this way. Then when I leave the gym, I get a good meal, and I feel like I did something productive with my drug use.

If you're completely dumb numb from an opiate and you try to max out, you have a good chance of fucking your body up.

Another thing I found out, I can run non freaking stop when taking opiates. I've been in two races (guess that's what you call 'em) in my life, about 6.5 miles each. Both times, I wasn't in great shape, but I took a Lortab before the run, and was able to out run my friends, who probably prepared a lot more. The second time I ran the race, I used opiates two times to train the week before the race. I got a damn good time that time.

I would say a good dosage for working out is half of what you'd take for recreation, as long as you don't take huge amounts for rec. purposes.

The other thing opiates are good for...fucking.
 
spaceyourbass said:
Yes, I've used opiates to workout harder many a time. They help me push myself. I've never injured myself in the weight room or come close to it, even when on opiates. Usually, I choose reps over weight though, or find a happy medium. I can work out so much better this way. Then when I leave the gym, I get a good meal, and I feel like I did something productive with my drug use.

If you're completely dumb numb from an opiate and you try to max out, you have a good chance of fucking your body up.

Another thing I found out, I can run non freaking stop when taking opiates. I've been in two races (guess that's what you call 'em) in my life, about 6.5 miles each. Both times, I wasn't in great shape, but I took a Lortab before the run, and was able to out run my friends, who probably prepared a lot more. The second time I ran the race, I used opiates two times to train the week before the race. I got a damn good time that time.

I would say a good dosage for working out is half of what you'd take for recreation, as long as you don't take huge amounts for rec. purposes.

The other thing opiates are good for...fucking.

yes! this is how tramadol used to work for me! oh well. I would take 250 mg tramadol monday morning and 300 mg in the aftrenoon say 1:00 pm. the following days id take 50mg more than the previous day. friday thru sunday i drink pod tea. This routine worked fine for a bout a month but now i dont get the energy i used to get. whats going on?!
 
hitomaro said:
man it really didnt take you long at all. dont want to be a 'toldja so' but mixing drugs with anything productive never works.

tell us what you've been doing to get this tolerance of yours then we can advise accordingly ya?
I would take 250 mg tramadol monday morning and 300 mg in the aftrenoon say 1:00 pm. the following days id take 50mg more than the previous day. friday thru sunday i drink pod tea. This routine worked fine for a bout a month but now i dont get the energy i used to get. whats going on?!
 
it's weird that you get energy from opiates. they generall ymake people tired, relaxed, and unmotivated to do anything. when i take more oxycodone than i need for my pain (by accident) i just want to lie around and wawtch tv or listen to music.
 
mikebobjohn said:
it's weird that you get energy from opiates. they generall ymake people tired, relaxed, and unmotivated to do anything. when i take more oxycodone than i need for my pain (by accident) i just want to lie around and wawtch tv or listen to music.
my friend always wonders why i like vicodin so much. according to him it puts him in a bad mood. all the opiates i have tried give me a speedy rush and then hours later i feel mellow as hell....
 
I wonder how many opiate heads there are out here who have that same reaction? I get energized and focussed from opiates. But my non-drug friends all experience lethargy and are only inspired to slack. Lucky bastards.

Anyway, I always loved to run and low doses of vicodin didn't seem to have too bad an effect on my wind. But the biggest challenge for me is avoiding smoking cigarettes. When I'm opiated I fiend for cancer sticks. And thanks to my Irish toxin-fightin machine, I used to get away with smoking a pack a day then running 5-7 miles a day. Ah, youth.

>> This routine worked fine for a bout a month but now i dont get the energy i used to get. whats going on?!<< For me, a run of three weeks is the longest I can go and still enjoy the benefits of the pills. After that I just slowly slip into a destructive cycle of taking more to "get that energy". You know the drill. In time, the advantages ebb and all I'm doing is slipping into worse and worse health.

So then, usually, I quit for 6-10 weeks then start up again. I have had a couple of periods where I've extended the run and it's just destructive. But I guess it can be done. I've been using this schedule for more than 8 years. I just get motivated to quit because after a certain point, it's all fail.
 
second650-im the same way i can take a few vicoden or oxys and i get an instant energy boost..it makes me very social and interested in daily life....its strange because my own family(dad, mom, brother) have all been scribed vicoden in the past and none of them liked it...it made them irritable, tired, withdrawn etc etc....that said, adiction experts will say that opiates give addicts euphoria but will give the average person nothing in terms of a buzz..my family and i surely share the same genes, so why didnt they feel anything from the opiates??
 
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