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Opiates and dreams

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johnny pants down

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It can't just be strange coincidence.. You can trace back weird parallels in dreams from de Quincey to Burroughs,, I had terrifying, vivid dreams about things they have described long before I read them..

I'm in the process of theorising possible answers.
Has anyone else found their dreams becoming unbearable after getting a heroin habit? I'd be interested to see if there are any links to be made between peoples experiences..
 
I've never used heroin, but I've used about every other opiate (save for fentanyl and oxymorphone).

Usually my dreams on the heavier opiates; morphine, methadone, hydromorphone, are very vivid and usually quite happy. Oxycodone and hydrocodone cause dreams as well, but they're not nearly as powerful.

The only time I get bad dreams with opiate are when I'm in withdrawals, then its nothing but nightmares and waking up covered in sweat. :(
 
Yeah they are so vivid, I feel like my dreams ate more real than my waking life at times.. It may be the combination of opiates and the antidepressants I take which make it particularly disturbing. It's just the unexplainable imagery that fucks me up.. Often I'll describe a dream and someone might say that doesnt sound frightening like a nightmare at all it just sounds ordinary.. but it's the overall feeling and sensation of the experience which is really unsettling.

Yeah they get much much worse if I'm rattling, ful on horrific nightmares and I get terrible audible hallucinations when I'm awake, frequently I have a womans voice saying my name and this fucking horrible sardonic laughter.. It's like they're standing and laughing right into my eat it's terrifying!

Has anyone dreamed about human/crustacean hybrids? Like lobster/crab men?
 
to this day, i still have dreams about buying and using heroin or pills or whatever, worrying about getting it, who am i going to get it from, worrying about the cops....its crazy.

Years of opiate abuse have burned things into my brain i dont think i will ever be able to erase.
 
Crab men!? That sounds worthy of crawling skin.

I'm familiar with dreams that are nightmares even though they aren't exactly superficially scary, they just have a dreadful emotional impact which really really really sucks when you wake up.
 
When I go to sleep while still under the effects of opiates I don't hav dreams just awesome peaceful sleep, but when I sleep after they wear off or in withdrawal I get crazy realistic dreams. I used to like it but now Im on methadone maintenance and since we only dose once in the morning I get these crazy dreams every night since the methadone wears off sometime in the night, and its getting fucking annoying having intense crazy dreams every time I go to sleep.
 
I have terrifying nightmares when I don't do opiates, perhaps the rebound effect of an overly stimulated brain.

Last night I dreamt I was getting a manicure by some Asian girl of about 16, she said I had nice cuticles, then put my finger in her mouth. I tried to run out but the door was locked, and when I turned around she was coming at me with fangs in her mouth. Then I woke up, and stayed up.
 
Yeah it's that emitional impact in the morning that is the killer..and it can stay with you all day. Like I'll wake up not having a clue what's real and whats not and just not be able to stop myself crying. I noticed methadone making the dreams a lot worse as well, maybe as the whole time I was on it I was much closer to the WDs.. Although I want it to stop and just have peaceful sleep I am almost morbidly curious now to find out what awaits me at night! You're right because it does change a part of you forever..
 
Sometimes the worst drug induced nightmares (whether from withdrawal or not) can be a spark of inspiration. I wrote the script for a great zombie movie thanks to one of these nightmares (it was recurring throughout morphine withdrawal)
Dreams were so realistic I even wrote down the characters names, and designed the dvd box art.
I've had dreams about hidden cities, dreams about shit that doesn't make sense, etc
Depending on what said dreams are, nightmarish or not
 
Yeah i only get 'nightmares' if it's during wd otherwise it's a peaceful slumber.

Although a few months back i stayed up all night, then went for a haircut in the morning. After that i took some morphine & lay down to read a book, then gave up as i was feeling too good to read & began nodding. As soon as i fell asleep it felt like the barber was behind my head again about to touch me! It was a bizzare sensation i tell you.
 
Yes, opiates have caused me to experience very vivid dreams, which were unsettling due to that very fact. I have also experienced sleep paralysis after doing opiates. Not fun.
 
The best part of opiates and dreams is when you're nodding and not exactly asleep but not completely awake and you half day-dream and half actual dream. I've experienced this a lot with morphine and buprenorphine (usually when combined with diphenhydramine or promethazine), very vivid, very intense.

Of course the dreams the day after that are most often sheer terror, unless I took more opiates.
 
johnny pants down said:
Yeah it's that emitional impact in the morning that is the killer..and it can stay with you all day. Like I'll wake up not having a clue what's real and whats not and just not be able to stop myself crying. I noticed methadone making the dreams a lot worse as well, maybe as the whole time I was on it I was much closer to the WDs.. Although I want it to stop and just have peaceful sleep I am almost morbidly curious now to find out what awaits me at night! You're right because it does change a part of you forever..
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I usually never remember my dreams at all but last night I had a horrible nightmare. I wake up every hour or so terrified and then try to think of something happy but as soon as I fall back to sleep the same damn dream would continue.

After 5 times I finally gave up trying to sleep at 3am and stayed up.........I have been praying that it doesn't happen again. This was the first time something like that has happened.

I always wake up every hour like that but I never remember dreaming.......
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
I have bad dreams when I'm NOT on opiates. Even though I'm on Suboxone I don't get good dreams anymore. They come from recreational opiates like heroin or morphine.
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It may be due to the fact that the methadone has worn off by the middle of the night.

I am basically not on opiates when I sleep at night as I always feel worse before my morning dose.

I am only on 70mg at the moment and I was on 100-120 for quite a while until about a month ago. When I went to this program they started me way too low and I am still not at a comfortable level yet.....

I also think the cherry methadose is weaker than the pills were........I will be switching to the diskettes on Wednesday and going up to 80 so I hope that helps.

I hear that the diskettes are better......can anyone confirm or debunk this? why does the cherry crap not seem right? some days it feels like almost nothing and other days I nod hard and have to take a nap......
 
I have had very vivid terrifying, but almost poetic dreams with heavy oc use, they definitely reminded me of Khubla Kan by Coleridge, so yes I think that opiates do often times carry with them weirdly surreal, and slightly nightmarish dreams
 
dead head

I find that using heroin totally stops me having any dreams at all, either that or I am just too wasted to recall my dreams. I do find though that if I have had to go a few days without having had any heroin then I have some very vivid dreams which are all about heroin and injecting myself with copious amounts of it. As you can imagine it is a real disappointment when i wake up and have no gear to hand.
 
Ok- this is the basis of my theory..

It's a fact that opiates effect your dreams but I have experienced things at night that are completely inexplicable..not just nightmares, something totally stranger..

What I'm talking about is inter-dimensional travel! my consciousness/mind has passed into alternative realities in sleep because of brain/body chemistry and how that affects the frequencies that the strings that make up my mind vibrate upon.. somehow they accord in harmony with the frequency of the strings that make up the fabric of the walls between universes. This allows the consciousness to pass through the veils between dimensions/realities- of which there are an infinite number.

Mental eh? Been trying to work it out for ages.. That just a really brief synopsis. I'll write it up in more depth.
 
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