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Opioids Opiate Withdrawls

scoThc

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Ok so here's my story. I started out on real oc 60's, switched to multiples of ir's once oc switched to op, then moved to snorting h. The longest I've gone since late feb was 2 days. I finally went to the dr and requested to be put on suboxone, as I've taken it before (strip and pill) and know it works.

So eventually I get to the dr and he tells me that I'm not withdrawling hard enough and he won't give me any subs, and rescheduled me for a few days later.

In the meantime, I've been doing a little research of my own and found out a thing or two. Most importantly, my withdrawl symptoms come and go, which I've always known. What I did not know was that in most people it is constant. I have found one other friend whose symptoms come and go, and numerous friends who have constant symptoms. As of this moment, (wednesday, 2am), I have been clean since Saturday, around 2pm, when I had 2 methodones (don't know the dosage). Previous to that was Friday night around 8pm, 3 ir 30's. I always get the runny nose and diahrea constantly, but the sweating and chills, like I said, come and go. I'll have an attack for 2-3 hours and then it'll go away, only to return some time later. I'm actually starting to sweat right now, and my hands are clammy, so it's starting again (hurray).

Getting closer to the point (I promise). I am an avid stoner, been smoking consistently for the past 10 years or so. Upon contemplation, I noticed that (I work in a restaurant with a walk in cooler) I could never handle the cooler while withdrawling, unless I got high 30-60 minutes prior.

Does marijuana have an effect of lowering withdrawal symptoms?
How uncommon is it that my symptoms come and go as they please instead of remaining constant.

My worry is, that at my rescheduled appt, I am told that I am still not withdrawling and will not receive the subs I have been patiently waiting for for over a month. I already know if that happens I'm going to go find the line of brown that was already promised to me (no needles) and that's not the end goal.

As a side note, since I became actually hooked, I haven't gone longer than 2 days, as I said. My symptoms take, on average, a day and a half to show up. But I haven't been past 3 days in so long, I'm not sure what to expect anymore.

2nd side note, I started taking citalapram around 6 weeks ago, i dunno if that will have any effect.
Any help is appreciated
 
Bro I'm going to stop reading right now just to tell you, Don't fucking take unknown dosages of methadone, that's ridiculously stupid. In the offchance they had been the 40mgs that could prove fatal even with a tolerance to heroin.

Find another sub doctor IMO, that one is particularly cruel.

Marijuana does help me during WD, I chainsmoke chronic like a mother fucker while I'm withdrawing, I think it helps.

The coming and going of symptoms is not that uncommon, for me it's pretty constant but it does have ups and downs, it's like a rollercoaster ride that you can't get off of. piss, shit, yack, sneeze, cough, repeat.

How long has it been since you last had heroin?

Welcome to Bluelight, I wish you the best in your recovery and you're better off now that you have this community as a resource, for support and knowledge.
 
Hi. I don't know much about dones, tbh. My roomate gave me 2 pills, told me they were dones and they would cut my withdrawls, so I trusted him. Stupid I know.

Another dr is a route being considered, if I get shot down again by this dr, as my wife doesn't do drugs and as she puts it "she didn't' fall in love with a heroin addict"

interesting.

Ummmmm, around a week to 10 days off h I'd say, dealer ran out so it was ir's and op's until he re-upped.

thanks :)
 
Always lookup any pill you're even considering taking. Google the pill imprint or use an online pill identifier.

We don't do pill ID's here on BL but honestly google is all you need.

I honestly wouldn't even bother with that doctor with the way he's treating you, I wouldn't keep paying him my money but that's just me.

I suggest to you just riding out the withdrawals, you're already 7 days in you may regret going on buprenorphine and wish you'd just stayed clean.
 
I haven't been clean for a week, just haven't had h for a week.

Thanks for the advice though. I do appreciate it.
 
Just some food for thought man, take it or leave it. A lot of people regret going on maintenance drugs for this reason, just want to give you fair warning.
 
Yeah, man, if you are gonna go with subs find another doc, unless for some reason you feel your choice is limited to this asshole. I can only assume this doc feels he is delivering some kind of justice by punishing you this way, which means you will encounter more uncaring attitude in future as you continue managing your habit with subs. Doctors like this should find another occupation. Or you could stick it out and get clean for your wife cold turkey. I'll bet she would support that, and probably even respect you for it. I only say that because I got clean from dope that way for exactly that reason. Best of luck.
 
Day 1: up to 4mg, if you can get by on less than this PLEASE DO. And remember to do split dosing, one AM dose and another PM dose.
Day 2: 2mg
Day 3: 1mg
Day 4: 0.5mg
Day 5: 0.25mg
Day 6: 0.125mg
Day 7: 0.125mg

Methadone can also be used for rapid detox, but it's going to be more difficult to calculate your dosage without knowing your tolerance.
 
Update: I did finally get the subs (ill post the whole story when I get home from work, it was unbelievable), 2/.5 taken as needed. I'm doing around 10 a day
 
OK. Appt at 9 am, I go in, talk to the Dr etc etc. Around 10 am he tells me that he is putting in a scrip at walgreens, down the street. I am to go pick it up, and bring it back, so he can give me one and observe me to see if it will have a bad reaction. Now, my insurance comes from my wife, who works at the same hospital I am at, and most likely the same insurance that my doctor has. Walgreens does not accept our insurance. They tell me I can either pay full price ($196) or they can fax the script to another pharmacy. I ask them to send it to another pharmacy and so fax it to a Copps grocery store that has a pharmacy inside of it. I drive down there, and spend 20 minutes waiting while they try to find a pharmacy that accepts my insurance AND carries suboxone, since they had never even heard of it. They finally find one, and I am now at a CVS, who gives me pills instead of strips. By the time I make it back to the hospital, it's 11:30 or 12. I present myself and the nurse puts me in a room to await the doctor. 40 minutes later she stops in and asks how I'm feeling. I tell her I'm pretty cold. She asks if I'm cold because of the AC or the medicine. I inform her I haven't taken the medicine yet because the doctor still hasn't shown up. She storms off and the doctor shows up a few minutes later and the first thing he asks is why they gave me pills instead of strips. I had asked the same thing at the pharmacy, and they told me the script was written for pills. At this point, I am beyond pissed off, and have fully accepted that if I wasn't doing this for the wife and kid as well as for myself, I would have left and never came back. But I stayed, and he gives me one, then sits and talks to me for about 15 minutes. After that he gives me another and talks for a little bit longer. The time he spent talking to me actually made me feel like he viewed me as something more than a number, and actually calmed me down quite a bit.

At the end of the day, I made it through all the stupid obstacles, and have my script, and have been in a great mood ever since. It was 2 months between going to the initial dr visit with the intent of getting subs, and actually getting them. But I have been clean for a week now, and have the confidence that I will be able to keep it going. It is exciting to me that I won't have to spend my paycheck getting high, and I find myself actually looking forward to the future!
 
Hello everyone I'm new here so please be kind. Here is my story I have been on hydrocodone for a year due to pain and I have gotten up to 10-15 a day well I decided I can't live like that no more so I tried suboxone for two weeks at low doses .5-1mg a day just to be able to detox well after the two weeks I had oral surgery and back on them I went. Well I was only back
 
Hello everyone I'm new here so please be kind. Here is my story I have been on hydrocodone for a year due to pain and I have gotten up to 10-15 a day well I decided I can't live like that no more so I tried suboxone for two weeks at low doses .5-1mg a day just to be able to detox well after the two weeks I had oral surgery and back on them I went. Well I was only back on them for 1 week and at much smaller doses like 4-5 a day well I am on 30hours no hydro I have taken about .5 of suboxone to help but I don't want to use it much because I don't know if that prolonged my withdrawl. My doctor gave me klonopin and trazodone and clonodine to help sleep. But as of right now I just got a slight headache and some body aches. Also just to let tall know only a 5mg of hydrocodone actually gets me feeling good when it used to take 3 10mg at one time. I want to know if the suboxone I took only that one time will make my withdrawls longer or worse? Also how long is withdrawls for since my tolerance levels dipped dramatically. I read a lot of your posts on here and I feel like all of you are family cause we have been thru this time and time again. Also I don't want to get dependent on the klonopin or trazodone and read on forums that's if only taken for a week at low doses I won't get addicted or withdrawls from it. Please let me know I could really use some friends thank you so much
 
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