Opioids Opiate withdrawal

[Spero12420]

Hello, my first time posting and been looking at alot of posts and forums over the last week or so, good stuff. Anyway, I've recently come to terms I have a problem w pills (mostly percs, vikes, sometime oxys). It started like 4 years ago w a surgery, then just started taking them for stress (at that point no script just buying whatever I could get my paws on). I remember back then the first time I ate 4 10mg oxycodone at once I was nodding out, now that just gives me a little buzz. I thought for a long time that since I don't take them everyday (avg 3-4 days a week, like 60-100 mg) I didn't have an issue. Ive noticed though now after a couple days of not taking them I'd feel like hell, muscle aches, no energy, diarrhea. I never considered that this was actually wd's but based on what I've read it is. I don't feel like doing anything anymore unless I have some opiates in me, even menial tasks like doing groceries, yard work, etc. I have been blowing like prob 700-900 a month on getting pills, it's horrible. Now it's like going to work is a project, so I take some just to get through the day. Anyway, I wanna quit and get my life back. I'm on day 4 w no opiates and feel like hell. Whole body aches, no energy, sweating, diarrhea, etc. on day 2 I got some tramadol to help, needless to say I ate 8 50mg at once caused I was stressed, hope this didn't set me back. Today I took some adderall to get me off the couch, gave me some energy but this muscles aches are horrible. Well I want to quit cold turkey and get my life back. Used to be so active now I'm so lazy unless I eat at least 50 mg. I basically average 50-150 mg about 5 days a week the past 2 years. I hope some of you wonderful people can give me insight on how long these withdrawals will last, if taking tramadol will set me back. Reaching out here because no one knows about my problem and can't tell them. Thank you.

 

[Diloadid]

You take between 50-150mg of oxycodone a day? You should really be worried about taking all that acetaminophen with smaller pain-killers. Like perc 10's and vicodin. My addiction to oxy wasn't much bigger than yours, I was taking between 160-190mg a day. Which really isn't much compared to some people, I did eventually quit using oxy tho and switch to heroin. It is good to quit using cold turkey if you can, If you really want to the tools for sobriety you should try going to some NA/AA meetings. It will help a lot. And at least you aren't trying to kick your habit in a jail cell. Just think about it this way, this may be the last time you ever have to be dope sick man. Also, think about how much extra cash you will have! Good luck. PM me if you need anything. Also the tramadol shouldn't really set you back, I used to do that as well when I was sick/going without. It usually just helped me. Trying getting some benzos (if you think you can use responsibly) they will help with sleep. Take some OTC pain reliever that isn't tylenol, and invest in some Imodium (loperamide), which will help with AD issues.

 

[obscure]

If you want advice on how to deal with WDs, there is a ton of information on this site. This for example:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/617166-Your-Personal-Opiate-Withdrawal-Arsenal


But it sounds like you have a real mental dependency and might possibly go back to pills after you're clean. It's happened to me, and lots of other people in that situation. You might want to consider taking Subuxone, you'd only need like 1mg a day with your habit, and it's way cheaper than what you're paying now and it'll keep you clean until you feel far enough away from that urge to dose.

You don't have a a real bad habit, and it sounds like your WDs aren't too bad. It's just a matter of staying clean once you come out of WDs. That's why I mentioned subs as an option.

Good luck buddy, it'll pass.

 

[Znegative]

Hey, congrats on making it to day 4 man! You're feeling real shitty now, but it's really only a matter of days before you start to feel considerably better. The tramadol shouldn't set you too far back, but you really want to be careful, as it can cause seizures as well as seretonin syndrome (usually in dosages above 400mg, though incidence of seizures at dosages as low as 100mg have been reported). I would recomend giving Loperamide (Immodium) a shot instead.

 

[vikenRedbull]

ya i definitly feel that youve made it thru the worst of it.. it should be mostly mental now.. Im not quite that involved as you, ive only been taking Vicodin/ norcos for about a year maybe 60mg a day, and i get w/d too, i can only imagine how you would feel.. others have said, just to pound imodium like theres no tomorrow, and before you know it, it will be tomorrow.

I did just this today as my connect is dry, come to find out i had a few left anyway in a spare 'reserve' spot that i forgot about.. now i have to wait?

congrats again

 

[Alex000]

You are on day four, which is good, you are likely in one of the roughest parts of the wd's right now. The tramadol on day two might have been a little set-back, but tramadol is different than opiates like oxycodone or hydrocodone, however, I would not use it anymore if you want to quit CT. You have made it to day 4, which is really good of you, and soon the worst will be over as the acute wd's fade. You might not feel yourself in the next few weeks, and experience some residual wd symptoms, but they won't be as severe as they are now. 4 years is a while to have been taking them, so that might be tough after the acute wd's are over in terms of re-adjusting to non-opiate life, but the good thing is that you haven't been taking them every single day, and your doses have remained fairly low. You can pull through with this and come out the other side. If after a few weeks you still feel very poor and dysfunctional without the opiates, Suboxone/Subutex is an option to explore as mentioned above, but you would not need much at all, much less than they would rx you. Lower doses are better when it comes to buprenorphine (Suboxone/Subutex) as it acts as more of an agonist like other opiates, and displays nice anti-depressant properties akin to classic opiates with some unique action, as well. It is something to consider, but give yourself a good period of time without opiates before making your decision.

 

[tokenname]

Hello, my first time posting and been looking at alot of posts and forums over the last week or so, good stuff. Anyway, I've recently come to terms I have a problem w pills (mostly percs, vikes, sometime oxys). It started like 4 years ago w a surgery, then just started taking them for stress (at that point no script just buying whatever I could get my paws on). I remember back then the first time I ate 4 10mg oxycodone at once I was nodding out, now that just gives me a little buzz. I thought for a long time that since I don't take them everyday (avg 3-4 days a week, like 60-100 mg) I didn't have an issue. Ive noticed though now after a couple days of not taking them I'd feel like hell, muscle aches, no energy, diarrhea. I never considered that this was actually wd's but based on what I've read it is. I don't feel like doing anything anymore unless I have some opiates in me, even menial tasks like doing groceries, yard work, etc. I have been blowing like prob 700-900 a month on getting pills, it's horrible. Now it's like going to work is a project, so I take some just to get through the day. Anyway, I wanna quit and get my life back. I'm on day 4 w no opiates and feel like hell. Whole body aches, no energy, sweating, diarrhea, etc. on day 2 I got some tramadol to help, needless to say I ate 8 50mg at once caused I was stressed, hope this didn't set me back. Today I took some adderall to get me off the couch, gave me some energy but this muscles aches are horrible. Well I want to quit cold turkey and get my life back. Used to be so active now I'm so lazy unless I eat at least 50 mg. I basically average 50-150 mg about 5 days a week the past 2 years. I hope some of you wonderful people can give me insight on how long these withdrawals will last, if taking tramadol will set me back. Reaching out here because no one knows about my problem and can't tell them. Thank you.

I've always gone cold turkey..so I feel for you..
Usually days 2-5 are the worst..so expect to be feeling
better soon..albeit little by little...
loperamide & dxm can be a life -saver..
look into kratom if you're interested...there's a megathread right here on this OD forum..
it's great for w/d and also depressant/motivation issues..etc.
I admit to using ritalin and ephedrine to make me get outta bed during w/d..
otherwise, I'd stay in bed w/my mp3 player and hide from the world for a week or two...
tramadol shouldn't set you back much..lots of peeps use this to help them through w/d..
but remember that..if you continue using tram..it comes w/it's own w/d symptoms..which aren't
pretty at all. neither are seizures..so keep your dose below 400 mg/day

Good luck to you.
Also, what the 2nd poster said was all good stuff!
Use the dark side forum if you need to vent.

~token

 

[Spero12420]

Thanks everyone...can't sleep, gonna try and swig some NyQuil. Still don't feel great, and yeah I know now about all the Tylenol in those pills....young, stupid, and naive. Staying strong now, a little worried about trying just a couple when I feel better, just gonna have to rid those people from my life.

 

[DooMMooD]

Reaching out here because no one knows about my problem and can't tell them.

That mentality needs to change pretty rapidly or honestly you might not make it too far. Your addiction loves to get you alone and fuck your shit up. WHY cant you tell people?

If no one knows about your problem how can they help you? Your addiction is telling you not to tell people just so you can continue using.

I agree with obscure. You seem to be pretty mentally addicted which is why I feel you are at GREAT RISK of slipping and ending up right back at square one. And very quick to boot, if you dont get some help from someone else. 99.99% of people cant fight this battle on their own sadly.

Harder to slip if people are watching out for you. Basically every facet of quitting addiction is made easier with support from those who care about you. So you would deny yourself a tool in fighting what will be the hardest battle of your life because?...

Idc what people tell you, w/d are by far the easy part of the battle. hard parts living life without having to go through them again...

 

[80mg]

Lope + Black pepper taken at same time
DXM (150-300mg...I made a post about it but was soon ridiculed and told I was full of shit. Now most of the same people are reccommending it LOL)
Ibuprofen
Some alcohol if possible
Hot baths
Lot's of water or fluids
Chocolate
Benedryl

 

[vikenRedbull]

i drank a lot of grapefruit juice and tonic water and took about 30mg of imodium (lope) which was like 15 pills and i felt awesome all day.

i usially take 60mg of hydro a day and this tactic works for days im dry. give the immodium about 3 hours to kick in. thank me later

 

[RangersFan]

I feel for ya man. On day 6 of my recovery from 60-70 mg of Hydrocodone every day for the past two years. Never took any other pills, but the first 4 days were hell! I still have no energy really, and I'm battling the anxiety/depression, but it's getting better every day. Try to exercise! It's been giving me a great "high" off endorphins that feels even better than a pill high. I'm loving it. I know there's worse things to be addicted to, but I'm slightly afraid I may get addicted to working out lol. I want to just feel normal one day without taking my supplements (complete multi-vitamin, Fish Oil, L-Tyrosine 500) or working out...just be normal again. Anyone have a general time-table for me to feel normal again?

Until then, I'll keep fighting the good fight. Continue to do the same OP. Send me a private message if you'd wanna text me or whatever when you're struggling. I know it can help to talk to someone who has a general understanding of what you're going through, and as I'm only on day 6, we went cold turkey about the same time too.