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hazard6

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god fucking dammit its so shit.. a little background on my SHIT situation. 9 months ago(2 days before jan1). i decided to stop using pods/seeds/oxy(preferred pods and seeds because i got them fresh from a friend, oxy doesn't last as long and makes me nod less). i made a withdrawal journal and said in my first couple entries that it would only be a few days long(lolz). well about 7 tries later the thing is like 20 pages long and has some crazy shit in it. my first try i lasted 12 days but was still feeling the withdrawal and was bored so i got high. i did the whole self delusion convincing myself it was ok and i can stop bullshit ect... times after that lasted anywhere from 3-11 days.. sucking so goddamn shit..

my habit was crazy too, at one point i had to drink a strong tea and blast a oxy 40 in one go just to get a nod going.. the seeds i got were fresh from the pods(latex is visible) so you got the same exact high with the seeds/pods. 600g of seeds was like 5 massive pods, but varied a lot. im at 3 years os use right now

so right now im just beyond the 24 hour mark.. whenever im at this point i always say to myself.. maybe this wont be that bad!! i can do it!! 12-14 hours later i actually think about amputating my fucking legs they hurt so goddamn much.. and the resteless fucking legs jesus fuck so annoying. and non stop runny eyes/nose so annoying, one of my sweaters got so much snot in it you could fucking crack it.

what im using to help.. weed every now and then(none right now have to wait until tomorrow, fuck sakes) 20-40mg loperamide a day(i would say this shaves off 10-20% of the withdrawal and keeps my ass from pissing). and kratom in 12 hours when i get some in the mail, fuck you labour day. 150-300mg dxm like every other night(for 3-4 hours it really helps with the pain and good distraction.. and a magnesium bath/2 bananas a day. and some tylenol 1's(but im a caffeine newb so i can only take like 4 at a time. and its max 8 a day). and electrolyte drinks.. so only loperamide and tylenol 1 right now.. cant wait until the kratom comes in 12 hours.

well here i go again!
 
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:|I also have a addiction to opiates right know I take Methadone and I feel like I will never get to a point where I will not need it. I told my Mom the other day I am comfortably numb and its true but I feel like I lost myself and barley holding on to who I was before I dug a hole and I reach up for help with one hand while the other digs a bit deeper.
 
yea i know what your saying man, i was thinking on going methadone/subs but it would be just switching one opiate for another(although a much safer/stable switch). its hard but you gotta look at the brightside, even if its near impossible sometimes. theres one side that says wtf are you doing retard you have become a opiate addict this needs to STOP. and then there's the other side that convinces you its ok and you will eventually quit just not right now is the right time. its a battle between logic and addiction.
 
Hey there, I was a pod tea addict for many years. Daily drinker, also used any other opiate I could find. I tried to taper, cold turkey, use kratom, etc. Nothing worked. The wd was just too much and too long to bear. I couldn't function, and at the time, my addiction was a secret, so I had to keep using in order to work and maintain my relationship. Eventually I had to get on suboxone. I'm still on it after 2 years but it saved my life. Good luck.
 
thats awesome man. personally thats not my cup of tea, maybe in a few more years i would consider it but im not in any pain or anything i just like getting high lol, im just gonna smoke dope and drink beer like i use to before i was introduced to opiates. and if i had to pick i would prefer subs over methadone.

got kratom and weed now, not as crazy as i was before they help a lot. would have got benzos as well if my idiot friend didn't get arrested
 
well i went 12.5 days clean then after struggling in a mental battle with myself for a few hours i collapsed and got some pods. the past 2 days i just did light doses and today i did a decent dose. i really cant believe that i fucked up again. i dunno what i was thinking. 12.5 days is the longest in 9 months though. i just did my last dose and im stopping again, this time for good for sure because i cut all links with my source.

how bad will the withdrawals be considering that i was 90%+ threw withdrawals before i fucked up. and im not gonna use loperamide or kratom this time because i dont want to extend the withdrawals at all.
 
i can't stop opiates w/o buprenorphine it's just too much but then quitting the bupe is fairly hard in it's self not as hard as giving up the needle but a close second
 
is the mental stuff and cravings too hard for you or the physical withdrawal? i was thinking about subs but doesn't it get you high pretty much? and when u go on subs/methadone your not really "clean" although a big step in the right direction. Yea i heard bupe/methadone withdrawal lasts a long time and is hell, which causes people to be on it for a loooong time.

i just wanna stop taking ALL opiates and get it all over with and just use potassium/magnesium and eat as healthy as i can and exercise. and smoke some weed a few times a day.
 
thats the way to go if you can handle it and it's not the craving as i don't find drugs to be all that great anymore it's all the mental and psychical bullshit and i personally have a bad neck so it's hard to stop to know all the pain that awaits
 
Hey hazard6, I like your style you really remind me of my own struggles with opiates. Its good to hear you are a no-nonsense kind of person, the better you can be honest with yourself and others about your addiction and lack of control the sooner you will start to gradually shift in the right direction.

I feel like a total hypocrite however saying that as I have been going balls to the wall crazy on all the hard drugs that exist lately. It is no fun having some great dope for like 2-3 weeks straight every day and then deciding to binge on meth for over 48 hours. So here I am now going through it, I am fucking sick literally and also "fucking sick" of doing this over and over and expecting something different to occur.

If it weren't for the tiny bit of kratom I just ate I would be feeling even worse right now. I am looking forward to smoking lots of weed in the coming days and not doing any heroin or meth (my god, lol) or crack.

I guess this is some strange deranged experiment I have been conducting on my body to see just how utterly sick I can make myself before throwing in the towel. And why can't we just smoke the fucking pot instead?! It never leads to this kind of shit, I don't care what anyone says. But god damn it it seems opiate addicts only get lead back to the opiates when we try and just use weed like a pothead.

Well, anyway things can't get much worse at this point, I've driven myself into a hole and I'm forced to sober up at this point, at the very least stay away from the hard drugs. Otherwise I see myself in the hospital pretty soon. And fuck all that, I'm sick enough already.
 
Oh yeah, and I don't want to be on subs or methadone, its a big fucking lie imo. I know it works/helps some people but I don't like the feeling of either drug, honestly they seem worse than just actual opiates, but not worse than dope.
 
hazard6 said:
how bad will the withdrawals be considering that i was 90%+ threw withdrawals before i fucked up. and im not gonna use loperamide or kratom this time because i dont want to extend the withdrawals at all.
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Hazard- I don't know how bad or long withdrawals will be for you, although I sympathize with the restless leg BS. I really feel like I could do it if it weren't for that damn RLS. That and the diarrhea. I am day two into a ten year opiate habit withdrawal. For me, 700-900mg of Gabapentin (Neurontin) is doing WONDERS. Taken in three mostly equal doses, NO withdrawals at all, and they have always presented themselves at the 48-hour mark. I am keeping a detox journal, and the only thing I will be taking is Gabapentin and Tylenol if I need it. And MAYBE Loperamide if it comes to that.

Seriously, research Gabapentin. I was originally prescribed it for peripheral neuropathy in my feet, it works on the nerves, I believe, and not the opiate receptors. Into the end of day three and feeling comfortable, sleeping like a BABY, and it's NOT an opiate.
 
I wish gabapentin worked like that for me. I hated the way I felt when I was on it though, made me feel like I was dying lol.
 
same GABA doesnt really work well for me.
well i may as well update i guess. been off an on pretty much either in shitty wd or high(mostly high) these past months..

i am 15.5 days clean now after a pretty long stint. longest i been clean in 3 years. never really could get past that 10-14 day mark. its up and down but i still feel like shit and restless and legs hurt off an on, not nearly as crazy as it was before though. i didnt use any kratom this time but instead a bit of codeine, like 80mg a day for 10 days. and also lope starting at 20mg going down by 2mg each day and jumping off at 6mg. also 5htp/potassium/magnesium/electrolyte drinks and tons of weed ect... soon i will have the shit monkey off my back.. to all the people trying to quit/detox off opiates, if you fail you will just end up in the same position over and over. I learned more and more with each detox though.. First detox i didnt even know about loperamide and then i found out about kratom and i got better and better at dosing all of them...

first few times with lope i was careless with it and dosing 40mg+ a day for a long time and potentiating it with grapefruits(complete cotton mouth and cross eyed, no high or no euphoria) and then getting hit hard when i dropped the lope and eventually relapsing.. Thankfully this past 1.5 years more info on lope is out.I also used dxm for quite awhile in 60-300mg doses, until the body high/state of mind wasnt really there anymore and i started puking from it and just not liking the feeling anymore . Kratom is nice but it took me awhile before i could taper it properly and if you are addicted to a long half-life opiate like pods/subs/meth it will take a pretty long taper because anything short and you will still feel pretty much all the pain.. Benzos can be good or bad, use them for only a week. i used them for like 10 days(xanax/temazepam) and i was already developing a pretty decent tolerance and got some bad anxiety when i came off them and it caused me to relapse.. clonidine is ok, makes me pass though and is dangerous, i stood up and passed out and landed on corner of table and broke rib lolz.

i guess the point is, when you try and quit really try and make it count. you will crave, you will hurt and you will go insane. but it will just keep happening over and over. and never listen to that little shit monkey that always says "im not ready to quit" "I will try tapering down next time" "I cant do this i need to go on methadone" "just a few more times, next weekend will be better to quit anyway".. all lies...
 
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