jasoncrest said:
I thought that Codeine was on the bottom of the scale, with only Propoxyphene and Tramadol below it...
I'm very surprised to see that many people put Codeine above Oxycodone, Morphine or Demerol...
(I think it's it's because these people are not intravenous users, but I'm still surprised...)
Yeah me too, codeine to me is a very weak short lived opiate buzz. Lasts 1.5-2 hours max, and has a very short lived peak and the overall buzz isn't anything that special, on par with tramadol (which lasts 6-8 hours and actually does give you a decent buzz) and darvocet or hydrocodone.
anyway here's my list.......... could have sworn there was another thread about this where i put this same list but maybe not...
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10/10 - oxycodone + morphine + heroin + cocaine + cannabis + valium + temazepam + diphenhydramine = perfect combo
9.9/10 - heroin (IV)
9.9/10 - morphine (IV)
9.8/10 - oxycodone (IV) - only b/c it feels like an opiate + coke
9.7/10 - heroin (plugged)
9.6/10 - morphine (plugged)
9.5/10 - hydromorphone (IV) [too short of a rush/high tho]
9.2/10 - heroin (sniffed, smoked, SC, IM)
9.0/10 - hydromorphone (snorted) - duration = way too short
9.0/10 - morphine (oral)
8.5/10 - oxycodone (oral)
8.5/10 - hydrocodone (plugged) - do a CWE on 40-80mg & plug =
8.4/10 - oxycodone (sniffed) [rush, but short lived]
7.5/10 - hydrocodone (oral, parachuted) - much weak than most conversation charts say IMO. i think 10mg hydro = 4-5mg oxy but maybe thats just me...i'd MUCH rather be rx'd 20mg a day of oxy than 40mg a day of hydro...wouldnt youl?
7.5/10 - opium (smoked) - amazing, rarity. was nice while it lasted.
7.5/10 - meperidine (IV) - had at hospital, i was using at the time so they had to keep giving me more and more to sedate me but i wouldnt fall asleep cuz i had crazy opiate tolerance lol and they got suspicious but finally after 4 shots of 100mg demerol + 3 shots of 75mcg of fentanyl + 4 shots of 2mg i finally passed out, but they told my father (Who had to drive me home by law) that i required over 4 times what the average person needs to be knocked out and my dad just said oh he's a tough kid (not thinking he's a fucking IV oxy/morphine addict which is why the shitty demerol did nothing) and the doctor knew too, i could tell by the way he looked at me.
6.0/10 - fentantyl (IV) (only had it at hospital didn't do much for pain just made me kinda tired...no euphoria that i could notice... it was too quick.. the demerol i did notice because it was the first 3-4 shots i got that day (got 12-13 total LOL)
5.0/10 - opium tincture (oral, sublingual) - laudanum, good for diarhhea and staomch pain but is sedating and not euprohic at all unless plugged at 60mg or higher, or taken orally at doses 120mg or higher...and at that point it just blocks you shit up so much that gets painful and uncomfortuable so IME it's not the best recreational version of opium/morphine. but plugging 60mg feels like a nice shot/plug/sniff of heroin.
3.5/10 - codeine (oral) - goof for minor aches/pains, diarhhea , etc
3.5/10 - tramadol (oral) - long lasting weak opiate effects felt, but helps with W/D
1.0/10 - buprenorphine (sniffed, oral) - bad headaches and horrible feelings
1.0/10 - diphenoxylate (oral) - lomotil - basically imodium with atropine and the imodium KINDA crosses the BBB (w/ a weak anaglogue of meperedine)
0.0/10 - tramadol (sniffed) - horrilble experiene do not do it
i know i'm forgetting some...but this should be somewhat comprehendsive enough...
