Opiate PAWS symptoms?

They should definitely take the A outta the PAWS slogan. I think of acute as being minor, or smaller than 90 degrees. Kinda the opposite of obtuse.

Just want to clear this up.

Its not **post acute** withdrawals
Its **post** acute withdrawals.

As in AFTER acute withdrawals. In a way PAWs IS "obtuse", as its after the
acute part. Acute doesn't refer to anything but the phase of time. Physical wds are short and acute.
Acute withdrawals = physical withdrawals. I think instead of naming them obtuse withdrawals, post acute is much more accurate. As noone knows how long or short PAWs will be. So all PAWS refers to is the part after physical wds.

The withdrawals after acute withdrawals can be acute themself, or obtuse like the people who suffer paws for years.
Just the way I look at it.
 
I think instead of post acute withdrawal syndrome (the 'S' stands for 'syndrome' since it is a collection of associated and recognisable symptoms), secondary chronic withdrawal syndrome would be more appropriate since the symptoms can last for such a long time.
 
In my case, I found that travel helps a LOT. And you definitely CAN afford it since you're saving up from stopping your habit.

Just as a change of place can have a profound effect on tolerance, so will it affect everything else.

In fact, I'd say the only reason I ever relapsed was because I came back to this disgusting place.

I have 2 agree with this . I've struggled with opiates for 15 years , take me away from my Home City n i can get by without any ontop use easy . I can't explain the science behind this but it works 4 me.
 
PAWS is a bitch. You have to be proactive to combat it otherwise it just seems to linger forever. Addressing the root causes for your addiction will go a lonnggg way in leading you to a happier place.
 
so i know this is old but it matches my issue

sorry for bringing an old post back to life but i didnt want to make another one for the same thing:

I am not sure if i am feeling paws or something else
its all that I have had since i taper instead of cold turkey about 25 days ago

chills but not as extreme as withdrawal i have been there off of patches and off oxymorphone and heroin ect

vomiting 2 x every 4 to 6 hours all bile

no desire to eat even tho i am smoking pot =/

stomach hurts really bad

yesterday I had a seizure and went to the er the anti-emetic they gave me i was allergic to and the one they scripted me has not been available since 2007

extreme fatigue from a super low blood pressure



HELP ME SOMEONE LOL PLEASE ! I STILL AM TOO SICK TO GO FOR A WALK!

is this normal?
 
re:paws

it is just one of the worst parts of getting clean. do some phototherapy, eat lots of fruits and veggies, take your vitamins, drink loads of water (electrolytic drinks seems to help a lot however) take a walk, work on breathing techniques that calm you down or allow you to focus, keep a journal of everything that you feel, read that journal and remember what the past week has felt like. get some counseling or at least talk with someone about being an addict. Don't be like most of us and cave in or think that you can use just once in a while.

Try to think of activities you enjoyed prior to addiction.
 
Same^^..4 months clean and even on subs and i still have major anhedonia, lack of motivation, lack of emotions, more anger problems than i've ever had, sever depression, social isolation, not being able to/care for solializing with family or friends. it sucks, i'm thinking i should either go back on heroin where i was at least happy SOME TIMES...now i am happy NO TIME or just killing myself. What a fucking trade off, eh? It's really disheartening getting clean and feeling worse sober than when you were a junkie.

sub was worse for me than drugs. i was so antisocial, so tired every time i woke up, unable to sleep, no motivation for anything, rage fits, depression, heavy drniking / pot smoking every night (both), sleep till 1 or 2 every day and just stare at the tv. the benefit is that i spent 14 shitty months on it and finally got to the point where i realised im done with opiates. i dont need them. i tapered down low and eventually got off (17 days ago)

had a relatively easy w/d. now im experiencing the depression / fucked sleep. its not too bad but i was more motivated in the first 2 weeks than i am now. had more energy. my drinking dropped dramatically though and so did weed smoking. the feeling to be fucked up every night went away with suboxone.

but fuck, the last 3 nights sleeping has been brutal. constant dreams of fucked up stuff or just weird stuff. then i wake up early and am half asleep for 2 or 3 hours till i get out of bed at 11. also did something to my neck or maybe im just feeling pain for the first time in awhile since its been so stiff for a week and i cant really turn my head to the left.

but yeah, subs made me a zombie. way more than drugs. i think it was because you dont get sick on subs. every day same dose, every day same feeling, every single day. with drugs you might not get to dose or score and you get sick, thats way more than you feel bein on suboxone.

i still think its good though. it helped me maintain till i decided enough is enough.
 
auricular acupuncture = no PAWS for me!

explain please. also how much would it cost? i'm getting some bad pains after 17 days clean and paws are startin to affect me. mainly neck and back and they aren't the normal things, they are crippling at times. im closer to healthy living now, just slightly, but still so. what is it? what exactly does acupuncture do on itself? is that just the regular term for regular acupuncture?
 
I was heavy on Subs for quite some time. An EF-5 tornado ripped through my hometown on 5/22/11. Our home was destroyed. By the grace of God, we weren't. A big Salvation Army building within stone's throw of my backdoor was also destroyed. The next day SA workers mobilized a huge disaster survival relief tent, supplying nearly any need a human could have. I was very, very impressed. Auricular (ear) acupuncture was offered as a means to deal with big-time PTSD symptoms. Honestly, I had no PTSD, but that's for another story. A group called 'Acupuncturists Without Borders' set up beneath the tent & began offering the NADA 5 point protocol. I thought, COOL, ACUPUNCTURE! That's not something you even read much about in my backwards ass midwest USA town. I wanted to try it because I love trying things people are frightened of. (that's kicked my ass a bunch, too...again, for another story.) So, I went for it. 5 hair thin acupuncture needles in the outer ear membrane. If you're had your ears pierced, that hurts much more. So underneath this huge tent full of loud machinery noise and human chaos, it was administered...works best in a group setting. Immediate results occurred. I felt energized, focused, in-tune, full of clarity, & the spirituality underlying the treatment was just off the charts. I dug the hell out of the people giving the treatments. Amidst all this human, machinery chaos, they were all composed & just the nicest folks I believe I've ever met.
I went back daily for about 10 days or so for 20 minute treatments, sometimes twice a day. And really, after day 2, I was just taking my Subs out of habit, not because i was jonsein'. Before long, I started to forget to take my morning Subs. I'd be out in the community & think, "Oh shit, I forgot to take my Subs, I'm gonna be sicker'n shit here in a minute." Then I'd just go on about my business which was trying to salvage stuff from our nearly decimated home. Hours later, no WD, no PTSD as I sifted through wood splinters, nails, glass, etc. In fact, I was smiling, more glad to be alive than ever & finally accepting that God chose not to snuff me out, yet again. (another story) I'd walk over to the tent & talk with many, many others who lost their homes & possessions & experienced mother nature's fury, first-hand. Most people were freaking out in a manic phase of PTSD. Others (many) were in grief over the loss of a loved 1 who may've clung to the same item they did thru the tornado & were sucked away. But I just walked around with I'd bet 1 hell of an aura. Most people'd ask me if I was a volunteer from out of town. (we had many, thanks) I told the acupuncturists 1 day that for some reason, i wasn't using my Suboxone at all anymore & wasn't jonesin at all. That's when I was told that the 5 point protocol they were using is actually a detox tool. I was soooooo impressed that I took training in the techniques and am now an associate member of NADA (national acupuncturist detox assoc) http://www.acudetox.com/ dig it!
 
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