Opiate and speed fans I want to ask you something

[Zarathustra1313]

I never used to touch speed (adderall/meth/ice) when taking opiates (oc/op/hydro/H) I was under the impression that they would cancel each other out. Then one day I tried it out and enjoyed it quite a bit. Now keep this in mind when I ask my question, I would on average be taking 120-200mg hydro or 60-80mg oc/op or .5g of H nose only per day to get my opiate fix.

Do you get any effects from the speed when you aren't under the effects of the opiates? IME, the speed isn't even worth taking if I don't have the opiates. Either there is no effect at all when taken or I feel like a weirdo.

Thanks.

 

[titstypedthis]

you must be a weirdo..

lol speed is a fickle beast, sometimes you get massive euphoria that puts opiates to shame, then a while later its like sobriety but your hearts beating really fast..

 

[The Chemist]

The perfect balance is a speedball.

for example, tonight i took 180mg Mephedrone + 10mg Oxy +10mg Hydro + 50mg Diphenhydramine.

 

[Codones]

I have personally had to take very high doses of d and l amphetamines. From 120 to 200 mg at once to notice any euphoric effects. I am I. The same range of opiate tolerance, minimum of 150mg of hydrocodone or oxycodone for euphoria, but I rarely combine the two. However, when I combine them I can take 100mg of each and be in quite a euphoric state. I notice a touch of dysphoria when I go above 150 of each though. Be careful, the combination is extremely taxing on your body and can be deadly if proper precautions aren't taken.

 

[Up And DOWN]

Oh heck yeah, i love Hydro's with any kind of speed i can get my hands on. I should probably take a couple... Been up for 43 hours on PeeVee. Gotta work in 13 hours...

For me the hydro's help to cancel out the shitty comedown, they help me sleep on this demon drug, and I dunno why but i like the itchy feeling i get with them. I think its the sensitivity to touch combined with all that scratchin. mhmmm. thats some good stuff.

 

[woamotive]

my typical. usually like, sometimes I hate: ~150 mg oc or 16-24 mg dilaudid + 75 mg adderall OR 50 mg adderall & 25 mg ritalin + 30 mg temazepam & 1 mg clonaz.
today I felt sober and had a panic attack...

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I'm no stranger to this combination. Many people use a depressant such as opiates or a benzodiazepine when taking amphetamines to help reduce the anxiety and jitters that come with amphetamine usage.

Many reports will show you that the euphoria is actually increased when combining stimulants and depressants, and combining stimulants and opiates is sometimes referred to as a "speedball", although technically speaking, a speedball is cocaine and a strong opiate, such as heroin or morphine.

So the short answer is no, the amphetamine effects won't be canceled out, and may actually be in enhanced.

Please use the search engine, this topic has been discussed again and again. Here's a good thread talking about various amphetamine and opiate/benzos combinations.

I'm going to close this since your question's been answered, if you have any questions, please feel free to PM me, thank you

-NT