Opioids opiate addicts and the hate of alcohol

[inmfh4488]

why is it most people do not like alcohol after long term dependancy?

is it cuz the comedown reminds me of withdrawls?

also the high last like as long as it being digested..wtf?

 

[Rybee]

I just don't like alcohol period. It's a nasty drug.

Though more than that, I don't like the people who look down on us 'drug abusers' whilst necking bottle after bottle of wine because that's acceptable.

 

[etnies]

I just don't like alcohol period. It's a nasty drug.

Though more than that, I don't like the people who look down on us 'drug abusers' whilst necking bottle after bottle of wine because that's acceptable.

Yo omg, this girl I like just got finished calling me a drug addict b/c I do Xanax/Oxycodone like once every two weeks. Yet, she drinks a bottle of wine on the norm. I'm def going to show her this post.

I'm 25 and I started doing drugs when I was 21...I've NEVER EVER liked alcohol. It's the dirtiest drug. I've only been drunk about 6 times in my life and every time it sucked.

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

The way I see it alcohol is basically liquid cocaine, one dose lasts like 30 minutes, very cardio toxic, need to redose very often to get any good effects, and shit comedown. Yet no one else seems to notice this.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I like my opiates/opioids and have spent a good time addicted to them too, but it never got rid of my like for alcohol. Though I will admit I certainly don't enjoy getting drunk very often, I prefer benzos or GBL for my GABA hit.

I don't enjoy alcohol too much when I'm *on* opiates/opioids but I still enjoy it a lot when I'm off them, so I wonder if it's simply due to how alcohol can make you a tad nauseous when combined with certain drugs - opioids being one of them. I definitely still enjoy milder tasting beers or mixed drinks to say whiskey or very bitter thick beers when I'm on any opi.

I think another reason for it could simply be that when someone uses a class of drugs, they quickly find their favourite drugs and sub-classes within that class, and then tend to stick to those and somewhat avoid the rest. Alcohol is a depressant, and one that's nowhere near as good as opiates are (IMO at least), so if I'm going to take a depressant I'd rather go for something better most of the time.

That said, I don't think you're that right about opiate users not liking alcohol. I know lots of opiate users who love drinking, and as I said I do too sometimes. I think if anything its more that you'll see opiate *addicts* drinking less often, and that's largely just because of the fact that too much alcohol when you're high on opiates can mean deadly levels of CNS depression, and choking on your vomit and dying. Not a nice thing

 

[theedeadmau5]

i've always preferred opiates over alcohol, alcohol takes too long to fuck me up and opiates mellow me out whereas alcohol brings rage out of me. with that being said, i would take a hangover over a withdrawal any day of the week lol

 

[f33lg00d]

Recovery opiate addict, heroin specifically on bmt rn, never liked alcohol because it's a shitty drug- the hangover isn't worth the short mediocre high.

 

[southpawJ]

I did enjoy alcohol, a lot actually bc it lowered my inhibitions and it was fun and a way to be social... Until I discovered opiates. Ummm... Game-changer. I've often wondered the same thing op asked, why do opiates change the game when it comes to alcohol?

And it's funny too bc I used to smoke cigarettes on the regular, but after smoking whilst high, smoking when I'm sober doesn't compare anymore, in fact, the smell of cigs when I'm not on opiates is now disgusting.

So I guess if you have a problem with alcohol or cigs, get addicted to opiates. Jk. No really though, a responsible opiate habit is way healthier than an alcohol habit, imho.

 

[Hedonistica]

I used to drink and smoke heavily, I do neither now. Funny how I could be completely open about those and even do it in front of work colleagues without anyone thinking anything of it (well the drink on Friday nights and Christmas booze ups etc) but I would be expected to hang my head in shame if I was open about using opiates in most circumstances.

I might have a good drink once every few months - but I see my opiate use as preferable to when I was drinking about 3 bottles of spirits a week, I certainly feel much better and found the hangovers were getting worse as I got older.

 

[crestfallen]

Alcohol was the first drug I tried at 19 and I thought it was amazing. But compare the clean laid back euphoria from opiates to the amount of alcohol, stupid decisions and the hangover...opies win for me.

 

[fizzymk]

I used to drink here and there, went thru a phase during my late teens when we were drinking, smoking pot almost every night, it was fun and I enjoyed it, but once I got into opiates, alcohol lost its appeal totally, I dont drink at all now, imo, it doesnt mix well with opiates, totally different 'highs'

Also, booze doesnt work to stave off opiate w/ds, Ive tried this a few times and while I could feel the buzz from drinking, but the w/ds were like right there too, in the end, booze just made the w/ds worse.

 

[Screaming_Skull]

Some opiate addicts enjoy booze, I'm defininately not one of them. Alcohol was the first drug I tried at age 12 and loved it(besides the hangover the next day, red wine and vodka don't mix.... But in High School I was a drunk kinda, from 15-16 I would drink on the weekends(by myself) and just listen to music. By the time 17 rolled around I was drinking every night pretty much, then found a regular hookup for bud, and quit drinking, also around that time started doing opiates pretty regualry(18) but would do them in high school also but not all the time(Lortabs and Percocets that other students got from parents med cabinents or if they had wisdom teeth removed, pills floated around a lot in HS.) But really once I started smoking weed I lost my taste for alchohol...it feels dirty, makes me cry, can make me get overly mad for no reason, hangovers are awful, and will wake up regretting drunk dialing, plus drunk people are just plain annyoing to be around. Once I became a full fleged opiate addict though, I have NO desire for booze, at all. For my Gaba fix I enjoy benzo's or other drugs that work on the Gaba receoptors. Plus alchol makes me extremely deppressed the next day, only time I turn to alcohol is when I have absolutely nothing for a few months, then I start hitting the bottle. But to me alchohol is the worse drug EVER...of course once in a blue moon it is fun to get shit faced with some friends(as long as they're not annoying fucks.) But, I'd rather have ANY other drug than alchohol, no if ands or butts about it. It's just a dirty feeling, and not very euphoric, or relaxing, although it was in my teen years. Alcohol-my gateway drug,lol.

 

[Smoky]

Me either - I never liked liquor, it just made me stupid… I functioned on opiates for a long time… before Heroin then had to quit of course and grateful I did, but When I did drink sometimes I would have a rebound effect in blood pressure, wake up at 4 am with a fast heartbeat…. panic. No good! Who wants that?

A shitty drug that booze! No wonder so many traffic accidents. And it's legal? Ha!
I'm really glad it's not a trigger for me at all as my roommates drink…

 

[Toz]

It's not that I don't enjoy drinking, I just don't enjoy the hangover. If I could drink without the hangover, I would probably drink alot more. As it is now, the hangover isn't worth the high.

 

[edgewise1]

I like my opiate high by itself and I really enjoy it this way. Occasionally I do like to add about 2 shots to the mix, but no more than 2.I keep my liquor in my freezer and drink it ice cold. I keep a fifth of Grey Goose and a fifth of Bushmills Black Bush therenand only add it about once in two weeks on average.

 

[theedeadmau5]

so if any of you had to choose between a hangover and a opiate withdrawal, which would it be?

 

[Smoky]

if i were forced to use one, alcohol … hangover i mean.
i know alcohol withdrawal can be horrendous i've heard, but a hangover indeed would prefer… went through heroin withdrawal almost 2 months ago. no thanks!

 

[edgewise1]

Hangover....DEFINITELY!

 

[alexvolume2]

I would prefer a hangover in the context of the question. However, if it were between alcohol withdrawals or opiate withdrawals I would take 10 opiate wd's over 1 alcohol withdrawal.

GABA drug wd's are truly horrendous because you may actually lose your mind for a bit, along with the hallucinations, high BP, arrhythmia, tremors, and complete and enveloping feeling of impending doom.

No drug wd has been as horrifying as alcohol or benzo wd.

 

[Smoky]

^^

Good point, likewise! Benzo withdrawal for me was pure hell, thought I was going to be permanently committed to psych ward. I've heard the same with alcohol. Heroin, awful - but not as long and torturous as benzos! 8(