Opana use

[brokenpinky]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I was going to post in the Darkside so if the Mod feels the need the move it pls do.
Well I'm in bad way right now. I been snorting about 90 to 110 mg of opana a day. I get up snort 40 mg
then about 3 to 4 hours a later another 20 to 25mg the a few later 30mg. Then 20mg before I go to bed.

My wife holds my opana 20 er's and gives me 2 of them a day. So no matter what I"m always going to have those. I"m down to 4 30er opanas and I have about 10 to 11 opana 10ir.

How much should I be reducing a day to get me down the 2 20mg opana my wife gives me. To make it as
painless as possible.
If your wondering where I get the 30er opana, I get them from a friend and I have the 10ir prescribed to me
my wife does not know about those. Big mistake on my part. I feel so down sometimes if it wasn't for my
kids I would of given up.

The main thing I want to know is how much can I reduce my intake to make getting to 20mg a day as
painless as possible and I been doing the 90mg to 100mg for about month now.
Thanks for any suggestions and help.
Peace.

 

[Tommyboy]

Most people find it easier to reduce by a larger amount in the beginning of a taper since you will still have a decent dose in you. It's when you get to low doses that you have to reduce by small amounts to avoid bad withdrawal symptoms.

Simply put, take as little as possible in order to keep the withdrawals away. Try to wait as long as possible before dosing, and at night take just enough to make falling asleep a little not that hard. I would aim for getting down to 70mgs right off the bat, and then work on smaller reductions of about 10mgs every 5-7 days after that. So you would be looking at 3 weeks until getting down to 40mgs that way, but you can try to shave off some mgs here and there where you see fit.

I would also consider taking some OTC meds to help with this. Diphendydramine (generic benadryl) can help you sleep. Cimetidine (tagamet) can help you opana stash last longer since it basically makes your liver have to break down the cimetidine which in turn makes your liver take a little longer to break down the opana. My scientific explanation might be a bit off, but that is the general idea of it.

Edit: I adjusted the doses since I originally thought you had to get down to 20mgs 1x.

 

[shady4091]

That's quite a bit of Opana but it could be worse, you could have to quit completely. So you have to get from ~100mg a day, down to 40mg a day (20mg twice a day) right? I think the best place to start would be to completely eliminate one of the doses you're not getting from your wife right off the bat. Maybe the 25mg or 30mg. Breaking the habit of taking those doses at regular times is going to be one of the hardest parts. On the second day, halve all of the other doses you're not getting from your wife. Stay on that for another day (maybe even another day). Then on the forth (or fifth) day, eliminate another one completely. Try to space it out to three doses a day total, evenly spaced. The last thing to do would be to drop the dose in the middle. This is likely to be the worst part physically and mentally as you have nothing to keep you going mid-day. You could taper it a little bit before cutting it completely if you have enough Opana left. You should adjust to this in a few days.

It's going to be a bitch for the first little while for sure, mostly psychologically as you're going to miss those mid-day doses but congratulations, it's a big step for sure. Good luck.

[Edit: Tommboy, I would opt for a longer taper as well but I think he's limited to 4 Opana 30mgs and 10 Opana 10mgs. Not including the ones his wife are dispensing.

 

[brokenpinky]

yeah thats my pickle I'm limited to what I have for right now, but anyway I look at it, I have to stop what I'm doing. I have to cut back or I'm scared as hell to what might happen to me. A few times I thought I over did it. Got a bit scared.
I'm going to give it a hell of shot.
I have Tagamet and Somas .. The Somas I don't take all that much but I will now before I go to bed.
Thanks for all your advice It really does help. I was getting pretty low there for while just some good advice can take some of the stress out dealing with this..

 

[Tommyboy]

Ahh, I thought you had a larger supply but were just trying to get down to the 2x 20mg/day you wife gives you asap for personal reasons. Well, it can't be that bad since you will still be taking 40mgs a day. Personally, I never had much of a problem lowering my opiate dose when I was still able to have something in me. Don't psych yourself out about it too badly. Your going to try and convince yourself that you are feeling sick and that you need to dose more, but try to stay strong.

 

[Caligula]

This is old but I will throw in my two cents. I recently began opana. As soon as my doc switched me from 40mg oxy's 2 x daily, to 20mg opana 2x daily...I started testing the waters with shooting them. I learned how to bypass the abuse prevention on my oxy's...so the opana was the same process. I was amazed at how strong the first day when I shot 2.5 was. The next day...5 mg and was even more amazed. By the end of the week I was up to 10mg 4 x daily. Now, I couldn't go above that because my wife keeps them under lock and key, but it was only after a few weeks I found myself occasionally trying 15mg and then taking the 5, while experiencing a little withdrawl right before shooting up my next 10. Damn I thought...3 weeks ago I was on 40 mg 2 x daily oxy (which I would only shoot every now and again because of the bioavailabilty), and now here I am shooting up to 15mg opana (which is like 150mg oral...and like 300mg oxy). Holy shit! So I tried to quit...well I may as well have been taking water when I started taking them orally. So I quickly went back to shooting. After another week, the 10mg 4xdaily wasn't cutting it. By the 6 hour mark I was sweating like a pig and I was ending up with marks all over the fucking place. And my wife knows what they look like. So I manned up and did what I needed to do. I told my wife. She knows I'm an addict, and had noticed I was acting weird...so she wasn't shocked. She knew I was an addict before she married me, and aside from the occasional couple week slip up.... I've done really well. Well, I had no idea how quickly this drug would start to turn my life to shit, so telling her and dealing with it was better than how I was living....again when just less than a month ago, this wasn't a problem. Hadn't even shot an oxy in 6 months, and I did that for a couple days and stopped. No problem switching back to oral there. So, we prepped for what was going to happen and I prepared everything I knew to deal with WD's. So here is what I did...

Opana: Took my normal daily oral dose of 20mgs x 2.
Ketamine: I'm a lucky SOB in the fact that I can get ketamine anytime I want for nothing because of the fact that the guy I get it from does a little switch-a-roo with me on things I have that he is not into. So, This was a HUGE help.
DXM: Took about twice the dose of DXM as I did ketamine am and pm, for the duration of WD's. So, if I was using (just to give it a number), 100mgs ketamine several times daily. I would take 200mgs DXM am and pm.
Tagamet: Took 100mg morning and night.
Immodium: Took like 12mg the first dose and 4mg two more times a day. (only did this for a couple days thank god or I would have never shit again)
Klonopin: I have a script for them and have forever. Whenever I can, I will break one of my doses in half and have several saved up since my wife takes it too...and her doc is unreliable. So I added a few extra Klonopin to my routine for several days.
Zanaflex: I take this for muscle spasms in my back (I've had my spine fused), but this shit will knock you out. So I added some extra zanaflex to the routine during the day, and especially before bed so I could sleep the worst of it off.
Bentyl: It's actually a drug for IBS, but was prescribed by my practitioner to me for the off label useage as that it reduces sweating. You wouldn't want to take a shit ton and go out in the heat...but a little before bed when you sick will stop your from having night sweats like I do. So I have a shit ton of these and took several extra during the day, as well as a couple extra before bed.
Neurontin: I take this for sciatic nerve pain again stemming from the back. I have quite a few extra of these, so I kinda went hog wild for a few days on these. Being as that you can't really od on Neurontin, the more the merrier.
Tylenol and Ibuprofen: I took a bunch of this for a few days. Way more than my normal dose to help deal with the aches and pains.

So...I took my last shot on a Saturday night. By Sunday morning I felt like rats ass. But, it could have been much more rats ass if I didn't have all the helpers on hand. Spent the first day feeling like butt...and in quite a fog from all the pills. Monday...only about 1/2 as bad as Sunday so I figured I could reduce my dose on Tuesday. Woke up Tuesday not feeling too bad at all...so I reduced the meds a bit, but not too much. Wednesday...felt like worst of it was over. Except for a few things, went back to my normal pill routine. Thursday...was able to return to my normal pill routine, felt the fog lift, and felt pretty much normal for the most part. Friday...felt pretty much back to normal, but had to up the caffeine seriously cause I just felt blah. Felt blah for a few more days...and my body had adjusted back to the normal oral dose. So except for a shitty Sunday that I thought would be worse than it was, and moderately shitty Monday...the rest was cake compared to previous WD's without all the helpers.

So don't sweat it so much. If you have 1/2 the help I did...it won't be that bad. More like a nasty case of the flu for a few.

 

[dwamn]

take as little as possible if you feel bad but not awful then that's an effective taper