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one giant dose v lots of boosters?

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I was wondering - is it your preference to take one massive dose, or take many smaller doses to extend duration?

I had a day off last week and it was my first massive combo, being 12 mgs 5-meo-mipt, 18 mgs 4-aco-met at time 0 and at one hour in, 20 mgs 4-aco-dmt. At about 3 hours in I snorted < 5 mgs adderall. That made the whole asparagus (experiment) go absolutely insane.

So -- long soft peak, or a hard jump into the heavens?
 
If you aren't careful with psychedelics, they will kick your arse. I suggest sticking to one at a time or if you are going to mix them, tread very carefully. Try the substances to be combined individually first and lower doses accordingly.

If you read P/TiHKAL, you'll see that the experiments weren't about doing huge doses and testing limits, there's a value in more subtle psychedelic states.
 
I prefer to dose once only though I usually don't prefer a massive one. I rather take a medium sized dose of a serotonergic psychedelic and add small bumps of ketamine and use whippets on top of it.

I'm not into high doses of serotonergics alone, I just like to have fun with these drugs and it's simply too intense for me.
 
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Usually only dose once, and lock my drugs away so I can't get at them when I might make poor decisions.
I'd say it's not a case of "one giant dose" or "lots of boosters", pick a reasonable dose that you think'll get you where you want to be - not necessarily pushing the limits though - and if you need to have a pre-measured booster ready to take if you feel you need a little more. Obviously the doses will depend on your own judgement and experience with the substance in question but i'd suggest any booster should be no more than 1/4 or 1/3 of the original dose.
 
Awesome. Great info. I worded wrong, and sufficiently convey what I was asking, but blue druid, you more or less answered what i tried poorly to ask. Furthermore, for the sake of clarity, that's intended to increase the typical duration?
 
I suspect a lot will depend on the substance in question but I'd generally expect a booster to extend the intensity or strength of the trip rather than it's duration.
 
One downside of small increment doses is tolerance development which makes it harder to compare notes between trips on what you are doing. Then again small doses stacking up allows for more control, to gauge your level of immersion and intensity. However tolerance does complicate this.

IME the bigger the initial dose, the more likely the trip is to have an anxious come-up, a hard time keeping up resulting in more chaos, sensory distortions, runaway trains of thought, though this can contribute to a sense of adventure. Whereas moderate initial dosing and steady boosting until 'saturated' is IMO more likely to become peaceful, crystal clear, profound, less restless visuals and other effects but potentially very deep immersion, more transparent but still with an underlying intensity potential that can quickly lead to breakthroughs. Especially when provoked using meditation or by boosting with nitrous, cannabis, dissociatives etc.

I used to think creating a wild trip with a big initial dose was cool and challenging but over time I came to appreciate and respect keeping it more steady and reservedly going deeper before fully blossoming.
 
"IME the bigger the initial dose, the more likely the trip is to have an anxious come-up, a hard time keeping up resulting in more chaos, sensory distortions, runaway trains of thought, though this can contribute to a sense of adventure. Whereas moderate initial dosing and steady boosting until 'saturated' is IMO more likely to become peaceful, crystal clear, profound, less restless visuals and other effects but potentially very deep immersion, more transparent but still with an underlying intensity potential that can quickly lead to breakthroughs. Especially when provoked using meditation or by boosting with nitrous, cannabis, dissociatives etc."

This sums up what I was gonna say to the dot. If I take a giant single dose I'm ultimately gonna trip harder but there's a sense of being overwhelmed that makes it harder do make the experience usefull as my mind is being thrown straight into the deep end. If I work my way up I will end up using a higher dose but because I can ease into the trip at my own place the experience is alot more clear and I am able to dig through my head with comfort and ease. However, the choice I make is totally dependant on the substance, how long I wanna trip, and what I want out of the experience. If I'm at a social occasion like a psychedelic party or something then re-dosing is bound to happen, if I'm taking a long acting psychedelic like DOC or I don't have hours to give up then I won't be redosing, It's all dependant on the situation. I tend to combo alot, I would say at least 80% of my psychedelic experiences as of late involve combos as I find I can create my trips to my liking so that means that I will have to match up durations of substances and break through tolerance so redosing is pretty much standard for me and that would also be my prefferance to answer your question.
 
Solipsis- for arguments sake, lets say chemical x has a threshold dose of 2-5 mgs, light dose of 5-12, common of 12-20, strong 20-30 (all made up figures) and a general duration of 6 hours. According to what you're saying, you'd be more apt to start with 15, then at 45-60 minutes in another 7 mgs and any otherboosters within 90 minutes?
 
I think I mean waiting a little longer with those boosters and taking a bit more. Doubling up even, but I must mention that I loved this approach most of all with LSD and I was more built for extended trips 5-10 years ago... also LSD doesn't have a particularly insane dose-response curve for me, whereas something like 2C-E which more or less matches your hypothetical drug, does have a steep one. So that is important to take into account.
 
One dose, shit usually lasts more than long enough anyway. For substances with a rough comeup, a single booster around the 30min to 120min mark can make things easier, but will still increase duration which for me is undesirable with all psychedelics. I've never required these boosters with psychedelics and prefer to dive in with full force. I can see how boosters might be a necessity for the festival crowd though. most people just prefer very long lasting psychedelics for that occasion though (think DOx).
 
At home, preferably one big dose, rarely a booster.

At parties I titrate up slowly with different substances. eg 5mg 4HOMET+5mg 5MEOMIPT, an hour later the same, an hour after that a tab of LSD. Parties last long enough ;)
 
So it would seem, as with everything, that set setting and personal preference, through experimentation is the only true way to find an answer. I like the idea of combo boosters. Thanks for the replies!
 
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