EctoEndoMezo
Greenlighter
First post..apologies if this has not been done correctly.
I've been on suboxone for 10 plus years. I'm done. I don't want the burden. I no longer need the therapy. Also, and this is..part..of the question I'm building toward..I no longer have any real issue with 'drugs'. Someone lays a pile of dope on the table in front of me, my decisions are going to be 100% related to 'logistics'...not..'need'. I've had enough. But quitting suboxone..even at 1 mil/day has proven to be astoundingly difficult. Painful.
I'm wondering:
If 're-addiction' is NOT an issue..for real..no bs..then can one use some less aggressive (receptor wise) opiate, with a frankly more 'normal' recovery/withdrawal curve to quit suboxone?
I ask this because I've witnessed this approach when an old comrade essentially 'accidentally' got off suboxone with unheard of ease by going on a little opiate bender for about 5 days. Then 'noticed' he was also off suboxone. I was there. It was real. I realize many will call 'bullshit' but some of us are in a statistically anomalous 'wedge' of the old psyche-social pie chart that do not require 'fear of narcotics or nearness of drugs etc...for life' or the typical NA/AA approach..our 'addiction' was about something else and when it ends..its over..or once you've had enough..then you can quit is how I've come to verbalize this. A lucky break? Handling my Animal is no longer an issue.
So has anyone else had success with this? If so what did you take and for how long? Preferably less than the 'curve' that would cause withdrawal from the substitute..but even so suboxone withdrawal is worse than anything I've experienced. Maybe I'm not being very clear..but any help is appreciated..I live in fear of the inevitable and now greatly desired termination of suboxone in my life. I just want off..so of course, if a loophole exists...I'll take it. Thanks. And as always..Keep A Manageable Jones.
I've been on suboxone for 10 plus years. I'm done. I don't want the burden. I no longer need the therapy. Also, and this is..part..of the question I'm building toward..I no longer have any real issue with 'drugs'. Someone lays a pile of dope on the table in front of me, my decisions are going to be 100% related to 'logistics'...not..'need'. I've had enough. But quitting suboxone..even at 1 mil/day has proven to be astoundingly difficult. Painful.
I'm wondering:
If 're-addiction' is NOT an issue..for real..no bs..then can one use some less aggressive (receptor wise) opiate, with a frankly more 'normal' recovery/withdrawal curve to quit suboxone?
I ask this because I've witnessed this approach when an old comrade essentially 'accidentally' got off suboxone with unheard of ease by going on a little opiate bender for about 5 days. Then 'noticed' he was also off suboxone. I was there. It was real. I realize many will call 'bullshit' but some of us are in a statistically anomalous 'wedge' of the old psyche-social pie chart that do not require 'fear of narcotics or nearness of drugs etc...for life' or the typical NA/AA approach..our 'addiction' was about something else and when it ends..its over..or once you've had enough..then you can quit is how I've come to verbalize this. A lucky break? Handling my Animal is no longer an issue.
So has anyone else had success with this? If so what did you take and for how long? Preferably less than the 'curve' that would cause withdrawal from the substitute..but even so suboxone withdrawal is worse than anything I've experienced. Maybe I'm not being very clear..but any help is appreciated..I live in fear of the inevitable and now greatly desired termination of suboxone in my life. I just want off..so of course, if a loophole exists...I'll take it. Thanks. And as always..Keep A Manageable Jones.