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On the Demonisation of Methamphetamine on Bluelight

I'm constantly amazed at how many plants have been smoked or otherwise ingested by our ancestors in the name of science. Ephedra is an amazing medicine.

Isn't God amazing creating so many things we need for us?

Do you realize how unlikely it is that men would evolve out of nothing, or that so many medicinal and psychoactive plants would evolve alongside him out of a vacuum??

Creation is reality.
This.
 
MMMM, this leaf good.

EWWW, this leaf bad.
Lol, I dig the Tarzan-like characters in your act-out, here, I'll at least give it that much 🙂
Let's extract said good benefits from this good leaf, yeah?
Yeah I mean that sorta thing was happening on a primitive level for hundreds to perhaps thousands of years of human history. But you said, "We could have made Meth a long time ago". These two acts are on entirely different levels of sophistication, trust me. Man did not have much refined capacity for the production, refinement, and isolation of a molecule like methamphetamine, no matter how relatively easy it is to pull-off a reduction procedure, dry-gassing, and some recrystallizations…
I mean it's pretty easy?
Are you asking a question? If so, no, it's not that easy once you factor in clandestine manufacturing compromises, law enforcement detection avoidance, the extensive and growing list of watched and reported chemicals, and the general public's willingness to report things they see to police.
So easy Ape's could have done it...
Yeah, except no.
 
the happily tweaked out book club and sociology discussion group. Which is excellent.
How about we not blame this on meth. Sometimes people just stupidly ramble on and on… like me, and right now I'm not on meth. I'm just smoking weed on a low dose of 3-HO-PCE.

So I've attempted to use my responses to weave things back on topic, but how much can you do, really, if people's attention wanders off? And anyway, where else is there to go with this topic? Threads are eventually closed, right? I'm just trying to figure out how to placate your desires here, boss. What would you have me do then?
 
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Are you asking a question? If so, no, it's not that easy once you factor in clandestine manufacturing compromises, law enforcement detection avoidance, the extensive and growing list of watched and reported chemicals, and the general public's willingness to report things they see to police.
So you're a Neanderthal and you come across a drug which is going to make you think, hunt and fuck like rabbits. You have no option to abuse it. You abuse it and you die. You can't just sit around and do nothing. It's do or die.
 
the happily tweaked out book club and sociology discussion group
… could be the name of a secret group of ultra-privileged, Ivy League University-matriculating, kitchen-chemistry-practicing college-kid tweakers with the education, resources, and lack of forethought and developed conscience necessary to pull off their own Breaking Bad-like hijinks. (💡!) “This summer, four friends find out what [choose appropriate Don LaFontaine-esque trailer voiceover copy]” … Someone go get Aaron Sorkin, I've got an idea for a movie!
 
How about we not blame this on meth. Sometimes people just stupidly ramble on and on… like me, and right now I'm not on meth. I'm just smoking weed on a low dose of 3-HO-PCE.

So I've attempted to use my responses to weave things back on topic, but how much can you do, really, if people's attention wanders off? And anyway, where else is there to go with this topic? Threads are eventually closed, right? I'm just trying to figure out how to placate your desires here, boss. What would you have me do then?
I’m perfectly happy when people just chatting amicably. And also when toasted on acid, ket, and MDMA. Like now.
 
So you're a Neanderthal
Maybe sometimes, but geez, am I that bad? Just kidding, continue, please:
and you come across a drug which is going to make you think, hunt and fuck like rabbits.
Wait, so it's gonna make me also think like a rabbit and hunt like a rabbit, or was that "like rabbits" adverbial simile intended to apply only to the verb, "fuck"? I don't think I'd be down for "hunting like a rabbit", ya know?

And btw, this theory was sorta posited by Terence McKenna but in referencing psilocybe mushrooms, not ephedrine. But who knows? Maybe our ancestors did both… or neither. Let's get onto the point though.

You have no option to abuse it. You abuse it and you die. You can't just sit around and do nothing. It's do or die.
I'm not following your point here, sorry. Again, I suspect you might be oversimplifying things, but it doesn't really matter. And again, we were discussing methamphetamine use itself, not ephedrine, so that really renders a lot of this moot.
 
Maybe sometimes, but geez, am I that bad? Just kidding, continue, please:

Wait, so it's gonna make me also think like a rabbit and hunt like a rabbit, or was that "like rabbits" adverbial simile intended to apply only to the verb, "fuck"? I don't think I'd be down for "hunting like a rabbit", ya know?

And btw, this theory was sorta posited by Terence McKenna but in referencing psilocybe mushrooms, not ephedrine. But who knows? Maybe our ancestors did both… or neither. Let's get onto the point though.


I'm not following your point here, sorry. Again, I suspect you might be oversimplifying things, but it doesn't really matter. And again, we were discussing methamphetamine use itself, not ephedrine, so that really renders a lot of this moot.
Smart Motherfucker you are...
 
And also when toasted on acid, ket, and MDMA.
Fuck yes, here's to that:

🥂*tink*

I'm inspired to drop something psychedelic now… I'm thinking of combining 20 mg 2C-B and 12 mg 2C-B-FLY to see if the latter can't extend the former's effects.

Smart Motherfucker you are...
You flatter me, sir. I am humbled and appreciative of your kind words.
 
Fuck yes, here's to that:

🥂*tink*

I'm inspired to drop something psychedelic now… I'm thinking of combining 20 mg 2C-B and 12 mg 2C-B-FLY to see if the latter can't extend the former's effects.


You flatter me, sir. I am humbled and appreciative of your kind words.
You just made me consider having some 4-aco-dmt. I've been up all night drinking (it's 6:45am where I live). Hesitant to do it though. I had a rough trip a week or so ago. Got a whole lot going lately...I'd rather flip and I don't have enough cash to buy MDMA today. Barely got enough for a few more beers.
 
My post was long because I was on meth.

If I was on meth I'd make a pretty long post right now about the myths and missconceptions surrounding Hitler and the use of drugs during the 3rd Reich.
Though @unodelacosa has already addressed some of those points.

But yeah Hitler definitely didn't become the way he was because of meth, just take a look at what he said in Mein Kampf which was written in 1925 way before his personal doctor started giving him a bunch of different drugs (including meth). I don't think Hitler was delusional (except perhaps at the very end of the war), he was a very messed up individual.
 
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