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Old Testament.

For you there is no birth or death, for you there is no mind, for you there is no bondage or liberation, no good or evil. Why do you shed tears, my child? Neither you nor I have name and form. You do not belong to that which is composed of the five objects of sense, such as sound; nor does that belong to you. You indeed are the supreme Reality. Why then do you suffer? Sages say that Reality is one only and the same. And through renunciation of attachment, the mind, which is one and many, ceases to exist.

If it is of the nature of the not-Self, how can there be Samahdi? If it is of the nature of the Self, how can there be Samahdi? If it is both "is" and "is not", how can there be Samahdi? If all is one and of the nature of freedom, how can there be Samahdi?

i could you give 100 + more tips to getting awakened your self but eh i feel like it might take you a few rebirths of seeking.

You're a bit condescending, you know that, huh?
What do you know about my birth, my death, my mind; the bondage and liberation, the notion of good and evil?
But I agree; we are merely projections of fragmented egos; a virus like a slithering snake assuring us we are something we are not. On that note, cheers.

The tears I shed are of amusement; you pick a part people like they were bits of Lego and think that you have reached some kind of truth.

Attachment - I bet you I live my life more detached from delusions than you, my dear friend. But, sure - you are Buddha under the Bodhi and I'm the cockaroach crawling
beneath the freezer, a murky world of dirt.

I've met your gods and they were nothing but smoke-screens; the only deity is death itself, but must've missed that somewhere in your neurosis.

But I like you anyway, Trip; you speak your heart, even if it would just contain the roaring sound of a man lost at sea, someone re-arrenging furniture in a building on fire.

I envy your hubris, and I'm not using that word as a put-down; and still I just want to hug you and tell you,
my silly little friend - there are no answers.

Keep your rebirths and let me rot away in silent oblivion six feet under when my time comes.

Take care, and don't choke on that big chunk of truth you keep chewing. <3

“In every man sleeps a prophet, and when he wakes there is a little more evil in the world.”
 
Angelic creatures are real to me only because I've seen them. I wouldn't expect anybody to believe in what they haven't experienced first-hand. I don't either. I don't believe in gods because I haven't seen them. The thing with angels and demons is that they aren't individuals like humans are. They act according to what's going on in other dimensions and serve different purposes and have to follow certain rules

I don't know what spirituality is. It's a term that makes me think of New Age religions, I guess. Kind of like agnostic. That one sounds like you don't know whether or not you actually exist but I think it's supposed to mean that one is unsure whether or not religions are true to the real world which makes me think of animism except that's something different from spiritism

I'm not even thinking about this. This is just my perception and I could be off. Animism is pretty complicated and hard to recognize. Still I tend to understand it better than anything labelled spirit-ism, -uality
 
I'm sorry for coming across as an idiot, but by that I guess that you mean you don't know how people will abandon the slave-morality and herd-mentality that religion enforces?
Or do I lose something in translation here?

I am saying that Yahweh is portrayed as evil, and that Christians are too brain dead to recognize it.

This is due to their immoral double moral standard, where they forgive that imaginary satanic entity for things they condemn in people.

Moral cowards comes to mind, and cowardice is hardly a good moral trait.

Regards
DL
 
Nope, spiritual to a degree but not religious. :)
Define both terms please.

I equate religious to tribal and we are all born tribal.

Spiritual is more of how one thinks. It is a hard term to define other than the Gnostic Christian ways, which is being a perpetual seeker of the best laws and rules to live by.

That is why we condemn Yahweh to hell, along with his vile commandments.

Any spiritual person will do the same, as their morality is more secular and inclusive.

Regards
DL
 
I'm not religious as in I do not consider myself a member of any of the major religions, and consider myself agnostic.

Spiritual in that in spite of not believing in those religions I do hold some beliefs that are a bit more in line with them than say, atheism or more humanist beliefs. For instance I believe in the existence of a soul. I can't prove that I believe it in spite of not being about to truly prove it to much satisfaction, thus is more an element of spiritual faith.

I also believe in an underlying order to the universe, a reason beyond simply "it exists" though I again I can't prove why I should.

That is spirituality, but not religion.
 
there is literally nothing else in reality expect for god

I am here, as anyone can see.

If you knew the Godhead, you would know that we are all in this together, alone.

Strange that one would give up their god given individuality.

If one reject God's greatest gift to any sentient being, it shows ungratefulness.

Regards
DL
 
I'm not religious as in I do not consider myself a member of any of the major religions, and consider myself agnostic.

Spiritual in that in spite of not believing in those religions I do hold some beliefs that are a bit more in line with them than say, atheism or more humanist beliefs. For instance I believe in the existence of a soul. I can't prove that I believe it in spite of not being about to truly prove it to much satisfaction, thus is more an element of spiritual faith.

I also believe in an underlying order to the universe, a reason beyond simply "it exists" though I again I can't prove why I should.

That is spirituality, but not religion.

Supernatural beliefs, disappointing.

Sages, like the Jesus archetype, promoted logos for the mature of mind.

Regards
DL
 
If only God thought we were being grateful by using our God given intellect to question the nature and reality of his supposed existence.

As opposed to cutting us off like a bad parent. :P
 
Supernatural beliefs, disappointing.

Sages, like the Jesus archetype, promoted logos for the mature of mind.

Regards
DL

Not supernatural. There is no supernatural, just what we don't yet understand.

I may believe in, for instance the soul, and I believe we currently don't understand it, that doesn't mean I think it can't be understood though.
 
If only God thought we were being grateful by using our God given intellect to question the nature and reality of his supposed existence.

As opposed to cutting us off like a bad parent. :p
If only his immoral followers would do the same.

Regards
DL
 
Not supernatural. There is no supernatural, just what we don't yet understand.

I may believe in, for instance the soul, and I believe we currently don't understand it, that doesn't mean I think it can't be understood though.
Such is the way with things that cannot be defined, --- except for one who has found his and knows it's function.

That takes theosis or apotheosis and few claim such. I have but even I have a hard time.

Regards
DL
 
I tend to think agnostics (if that's a true term) are people who believe in or accept religion but don't practise one. That's just my skewed view though and I haven't tried to figure out exactly what agnosticism is supposed to be. I guess when it comes to beliefs, none of them are logical

I'll mention that being an atheist isn't a new concept. It's just easier to use that term openly than it was 900 years ago; Hrafnkels saga talks about a man becoming an atheist. Also, I don't doubt that certain written accounts of heathens could've been referring to atheists. Paganism and atheism get along just fine. It's not like Abrahamic religions where personal belief affects one's fate. You can just perform rituals and be a pagan. You don't even have to bow down to the gods
 
Define both terms please.

I equate religious to tribal and we are all born tribal.

Spiritual is more of how one thinks. It is a hard term to define other than the Gnostic Christian ways, which is being a perpetual seeker of the best laws and rules to live by.

That is why we condemn Yahweh to hell, along with his vile commandments.

Any spiritual person will do the same, as their morality is more secular and inclusive.

Regards
DL

I'd define it the opposite way, actually.

Religious to me is linked up with organized religion, churches, sheeps gathering in their pastures.
And religion is the cowards way of copping out from his/her own responsibility, leaning on each others disposition for
badly constructed, reality-averted presumptions. It's an easy path to take, to get off the hook of examine what and why life is.
The token of existence reaches an unbearable point of pain where they feel forced to gather under shared delusions,
and with those delusions, they've built a set of morals in direct dissonance to the tangible, real world (whatever that is).

Spiritual for me is tribal, something pure and beautiful we've lost long ago, which I think drives people into the cages of religion.
I bet you have your family and circle of friends, right? I'd consider them your tribe. You live and do good for them;
not for the expectation of a heavenly award from a narcissistic overlord.
Before churches were built, before we had much more than shreds of dead aninal-fur and a fire, it was there.
Before we had namnes for everything; before god become another weapon in the toolbox of oppressors.

I believe all morals, laws and rules are made by men, and I'm not gonna bend over backwards to please dead men.
I believe in meeting anybody with respect unless they prove themselves unworthy of it;
I don't believe turning the other cheek is a virtue; that's a coward hiding behind something "noble";
that's by no means a good and virtuous man - such a man would break the jaw of the man who slaps his cheek.

Jesus was by no means a good person; agreeable, yes. Compassionate, yes.
But good? No.

Not only religious people but people overall seems to truly believe that we can somehow reach an understanding.
That's nothing but hubris. We're born into a slaughterhouse of our own making, and it ain't nothing that's gonna tear that fucker down.
This got nonsensical, somehow.
I raraley formulate this, as I don't propagate and people here just don't give a fuck about these things - ain't nobody ever ask you about your views on god here.
We all know, if he ever was, he left us long ago. And even if there is a god such as the mobster in either Testament, in the Torah or Quran, what fucking different does it make to me?
The conditions remain the same, as history painfully points out; man eats man, like starving dogs.

But I do, or I want to, believe there is a force beyond petty concepts as good and evil.

It's been years since I actually contemplated religion. The only God as far as I'm concerned is dying, and Death makes no different between a killer and a saint.
 
Jesus was by no means a good person; agreeable, yes. Compassionate, yes.
But good? No.

If a perpetual seeker of the best rules and laws to live by, you and I cannot ascribe compassion, --- the key stone to all reciprocity laws, --- which all moral people will follow, --- to a Jesus that has promised Armageddon and genocide.

There is no compassion in killing, when a god can cure just as easily.

That would be foolish of us.

Regards
DL
 
The problem with Christian theology is that it attempts to tie in a man named Jesus with the OT yet it's all misquoted in the NT to where it's incohesive, so that one can't decide whether it's true or not even though a reasonable person would see that it doesn't make sense. Another issue is the NT authors who claimed to be Jews, yet we don't have any records to prove who they were taught by so this seems suspect at best
 
The problem with Christian theology is that it attempts to tie in a man named Jesus with the OT yet it's all misquoted in the NT to where it's incohesive, so that one can't decide whether it's true or not even though a reasonable person would see that it doesn't make sense. Another issue is the NT authors who claimed to be Jews, yet we don't have any records to prove who they were taught by so this seems suspect at best
That, and knowing that the scribes and historians, like Josephus, was owned by Rome yet writing for Jews.

Sounds like someone was bought off.

Regards
DL
 
Im in Genesis chapter 40 or some shit SeanyTru-Gypsy Melchizedek comes down and kicks it with my first homey on Earth Abraham and i enlightten him and stay while start a family and shit i dont know about the rest it has some truths probably but its mostly bullshit just come from love like a motherfucker Love+Truth+Knowledge+Wisdom
 
I searched for 'Bhagavad Gita psychic images' - I cant seem to find those ones any more of the vile rapists and stuff - why don't you want an angry bastard in charge? I do
 
Wow.
I have never read the bible before, but made a commitment to plow through the Old and New Testament, the Torah and the Quran as a loose New years resolution, and well.
My favorite part was Ecclesiastes, which is really existential and angsty. Very nice

The rest of was mostly senseless slaughter by an omnipotent, vile motherfucker in charge.
God is a sinister fucking brute. He comes off as an insecure teenager, someone off their anti-psychotics lashing out at whoever is near him; a bully with rage-issues who mauls down kids with bears, murders infants, sets people up against each other, test their loyalty towards him by demanding actions that breaks his own creed. God's like a kid catching locusts, teraing their legs of and watches as ants feed on them.
Tony Soprano on PCP with an evil intention; demands his garderners in his garden Earth to behave a specific way, while contradicting i tconstantly, often without reason.
How can one oversee that God is like a callous, paranoid tweaker who's been up for too long?

Anyone?



Ive been reading some journals which explain the old testament in an easy format and I am not a fan of this GOD at all.

Its ridiculous this belief is taken literally thousands of years later, no wonder there is still war in the Middle East.

Not that all the trouble there is the fault of following this God, its everyone and their Gods.

Man's lust for power and territory just seems justified using God as an excuse rather than admitting to selfishness and greed.
 
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