Old school ecstacy question

[Deleted member 521610]

The biggest difference with meth is that it will keep you up for a very long time while mdma crashs and your asleep

 

[AutoTripper]

I find the actual crux and topic of this discussion to be a lttle silly and way out of proportion and context.

Firstly, I can't accept that meth containing ecstasy pills have ever been that common.
I've studied reports and analysis for years going back to the earliest available results in the 90's.

I honestly don't recall seeing meth showing up in ecstasy pills very much at all, to the extent that I find it amusing and surprising that anybody would suggest that it is a particularly common thing and then to actually believe that they have possibly received considerable lasting damage from taking methamphetamine virtually every time they thought they were taking MDMA.

And rightly as @epic11 says, just because a meth head innacurately claims that Meth is much much more prevalent in ecstasy pills then I believe we have actual reason to believe, to then practically conclude that meth was in most of those pills and has likely caused substantial and lasting damage to the brain...

It just seems a bit illogical and nonsensical to me. Im not satisfied at all, that just because an old skool ecstasy pill could give you loads of energy to dance all night, that it must have contain something in addition to MDMA or MDA.

I really don't think I ever took that much methamphetamine myself as I took a serious load of ecstasy pills. I certainly do not lack empathy anyway despite undisputed permanent brain alteration and harm from the MDMA and probably some methamphetamine along the way in addition to other substances like dxm which I understand now to be particularly promoting of neurotoxicity when taken at a particular point in relation to MDMA consumption.

This still seems to be a very largely unknown or little shared fact which I would have thought more important.

So it just seems silly and pointless to me to be attempting to draw conclusions and base so much on pure speculation, just in case, for all we know sort of thing, but trying to establish definicy at the same time.

MDMA itself is perfectly capable of producing the type of changes and effects which are described here has been possibly due to methamphetamine damage.

And even if it was the case that methamphetamine had been in a large number for a person's lifetime ecstasy pills and has caused some damage there is nothing that can be done about it now so ruminating about trying to pin down specific perceived long-term negative consequences to specific substances which one previously didn't know had been consumed.... again it just seems a bit pointless to me like there is nothing to be gained here except having a bit of fun for speculation sake.

I expect I am alone in this opinion, and I'm not saying for one minute that I am correct in my thinking or view, this is just what strikes me when I read through this thread.

 

[Phobos]

I was the complete opposite. I've mostly got a grip on drugs, oh that's a lie.

I'm a monster and on a dance floor some grinning dealer waving a handful of pills under my nose was my best friend. I WANT ALL OF THEM. YES M8

He's not your "friend", he's MY FRIEND, AND ALL THE PILLS ARE MINE!!!!

 

[Deleted member 521610]

If it was the 90's some parts of america were mafia controlled with their speed and meth pills and killing legitmate E dealers shaun attwood on youtube covers this part after some high level mafia guys wanted to kill him to take over his market with their fake pills

 

[Foreigner]

It's relative, MDMA has a peak that is much easier to distinguish from the rest of the high the effects are different. Meth comes up and down in a much smoother fashion.

That's good info.

The problem is, pressed pills can be mixed. So back then, I could've had the come up of MDMA, mixed with the longevity of speed.

 

[Phobos]

Taking Meth with MDMA is widely described as a harder roll, that lasts longer and is more active and euphoric.
I can't know the content of the pills you took ages ago, but you can look up pill testing websites looking for the presses that you remember in that time frame and region.
That's as close as you will get to knowing what you took.

 

[draculic acid69]

There were a lot of pills with meth around at one point but they were small doses like 5mg for the shitty ones and like 25mg for stronger ones.i only came across a few batches of mixed mdma/meth.meth/ketamine was common until ketamine came to an end around 2006then they just disappeared.ketamine hasn't been seen since in Oz.

 

[draculic acid69]

No I can't remember the difference and I already admitted my own ignorance. It would be nice if people would stop lecturing me on how I should know better and just give me the facts that I am asking for.

Like... I didn't even know that one has a peak and one doesn't. Which one peaks? Are you saying that meth doesn't have a peak?

As far as not being able to tell the difference it's like night and day they're that different.like as different as stoned or drunk.meth has no peak.

 

[leet]

So back then, I could've had the come up of MDMA, mixed with the longevity of speed

As you know this was the classic combo of choice in the UK in the 90's, on reading your post I instantly thought of the Pulp song - "Sorted for E's and Whizz"

Edit:
The lyrics bear you out @Foreigner

...It's six o'clock, I want to go home
But it's "no way, " "not today"
Makes you wonder what it meant
And this hollow feeling grows and grows and grows and grows
And you want to call your mother
And say "mother, I can never come home again
'Cause I seem to have left an important part of my brain somewhere
Somewhere in a field in Hampshire, all right"
In the middle of the night
It feels alright, but then tomorrow morning
Oh, oh, then you come down
Oh, oh, then you come down
Oh, what if you never come down?

But I've never had any LTC problems and its not from being restrained

 

[heatlessbbq]

...

My history is:
Age 18-21: lots of raving and E use
Age 21-28: maybe did MDMA a small handful of times, no more E
Age 28+: haven't touched MD* class drugs at all, but lots of psychedelic use (LSD, K, DMT, etc.)

I heard a rumor that people who do meth get emotionally stunted at the age they did the meth, but I don't know if this is true or not. Basically I am ignorant as fuck.

Well it seems from Your timeline... The ten years of Your raving career; the beginning obviously had ecstasy around... Towards the end; there wasn't.

That simple.

 

[indigoaura]

I was doing pills in the early 2000s from 2000 to 2005. I actually sent pills in to labs to see test results. I also reagent tested every pill I took after the first few. There were only a few times I feel like I definitely had meth. As others have mentioned, I could not sleep and was TWEAKED out, having anxiety about weird shit (need to vacuum!), and feeling paranoid. Other than that, I had high energy and extreme euphoria from pills that were sent to a lab with "MDMA" as the result.

Have you considered getting tested for vitamin deficiencies? My partner of 16 years has also had some mental health struggles, and most of it boiled down to B12 and D deficiency. There is a website called PatchMD where you can get vitamin patches that work way better than oral vitamins, if you are up for trying something like that.

 

[psy997]

Quicksilver Scientific's Ultra Vitamin is also super effective. Nano emulsified so it's as effective if not more effective than IV vitamins.

 

[Mikeybd27]

One time my friend and I used 4 omega e pills in 5 hours. I had a bad reaction after the fourth one. Either I drank too many fluids but I started puking. Afterwards I came back in side and literally my whole body was tingling all over. It was messed up I never had that happen before on e

 

[Phobos]

One time my friend and I used 4 omega e pills in 5 hours. I had a bad reaction after the fourth one. Either I drank too many fluids but I started puking. Afterwards I came back in side and literally my whole body was tingling all over. It was messed up I never had that happen before on e

How long ago was it, and in what part of the world if I may ask?
Looking at Ecstacy Data for Omega presses brings up a lot of active ingredients other than MDMA in most, like Meth, Amphetamine, caffeine, MDA, TFMPP.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

One time my friend and I used 4 omega e pills in 5 hours. I had a bad reaction after the fourth one. Either I drank too many fluids but I started puking. Afterwards I came back in side and literally my whole body was tingling all over. It was messed up I never had that happen before on e

when i took 600 mg of mdma my whole body had pins and needles and i thought this was it im going to die in absolute bliss couldn't even walk straight

 

[Mikeybd27]

took 600 mg of mdma my whole body had pins and needles and i thought this was it im going to die in absolute bliss couldn't even walk straight
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Yes it was like this pins and needles. This was back around 2003 in Pennsylvania.

 

[Mikeybd27]

Yes it was like pins and needles very intense pins and needles and they cover every part of my body. My friend bought a whole crap load of these omegas from some festival where blue man group had played. Back around 2003 or 2002 we lived in Pennsylvania