[OK] writes bill making it illegal for horse dentists to write scripts for Ketamine

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OKLAHOMA CITY --
A bill in the Oklahoma House that some feared would make it easier for people to get access to horse medicine for rapid weight loss will not have that effect after all.

Personal training said people are getting Clenbuterol and using it to get thin quick.

At the Neel Vet Center, doctors keep narcotics and tranquilizing medicines under lock and key, as required under Oklahoma law.

Under the compromise reached Thursday to legalize amateur equine dentists, also known as horse teeth floaters, lawmakers said those amateurs won't be able to write prescription for those drugs.

Bill Would Certify Equine Dentists "They are not trained in pharmacology or physiology," said veterinarian Dr. Tina Neel. "If we administer the drugs, then we have emergency drugs to take care of it if there is any kind of complications or allergic reactions."

People also worried the law would make it easier for people to get their hands on drugs like Ketamine, an anesthetic strong enough knock out an animal or a person.

"The fact is, Ketamine has been one of those drugs that has been on the market for a long time, one that has been used as a date-rape drug," said Deb Stanaland of Crisis Response.

"It was a compromise bill that we worked on for about two years to find some middle ground where we could get T-floaters to work and make them a legal entity," said state Rep. Don Armes, who sponsored the bill.

He said the drug issue was just a smokescreen. He said the real issue was simply about making teeth floating legal and allowing them to practice their trade.

"It's about the work. The drug deal is a non-issue," Armes said. "You still have to have a prescription to get the drugs. It's about the work."

The measure now heads to the Oklahoma Senate.
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DATE RAPE DRUG...omg!!!!

I fucking hate how as soon as some one says a drug has date rape potential it's a sinister vile drug. Don't stress about it though, lets go have a drink...:\ I don't know how you could even 'slip' someone ketamine, you'd taste it (for sure) if it was in a drink. Maybe someone is sneaking around night clubs giving IM shots...in which case I need to find that night club.

sure anyone who would give someone K under the idea that it was something else and then take advantage of them is a complete fucking loser....and it's unfortunately probably happened a handful of times. it just drives me nuts that people think ketamine or G or whatever is trouble when alcohol has been the date rape monster all along.
 
Who the hell would waste good K by trying to spike a drink with it? Straight up the nose for me!
 
Oklahoma is about to become the horse-rape capital of the midwest.
 
I am slightly confused by this article. Is this an issue in other states? Are OK vets just trying to keep a portion of the market to themselves?
 
dankstersauce said:
DATE RAPE DRUG...omg!!!!

I fucking hate how as soon as some one says a drug has date rape potential it's a sinister vile drug. Don't stress about it though, lets go have a drink...:\ I don't know how you could even 'slip' someone ketamine, you'd taste it (for sure) if it was in a drink. Maybe someone is sneaking around night clubs giving IM shots...in which case I need to find that night club.

sure anyone who would give someone K under the idea that it was something else and then take advantage of them is a complete fucking loser....and it's unfortunately probably happened a handful of times. it just drives me nuts that people think ketamine or G or whatever is trouble when alcohol has been the date rape monster all along.
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I got slipped GHB in a club once, wasn't raped. Was found outside asphyxiating on my own vomit. Woke up in a hostpital. It was a fucking nightmare. I don't have issues with GHB I do however have issues with scumbags that drug peoples drinks.
 
orangescrewpen said:
I am slightly confused by this article. Is this an issue in other states? Are OK vets just trying to keep a portion of the market to themselves?
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when i was in FFA in Highschool one of the girls mother who owned cows, horses, goats n other shit was actually addicted to some kind of horse sedative. It wasnt Ketamine but it was a potent tranquilizer nonetheless. i never tried em, but i remember the girl passing em out one time when she found em n found out about her mom.

i live in Tx by the way, but its not anymore popular then people in other areas of the US using their pets to get anxiety and pain meds. not necessarily common but it does happen
 
Violenza666 said:
I got slipped GHB in a club once, wasn't raped. Was found outside asphyxiating on my own vomit. Woke up in a hostpital. It was a fucking nightmare. I don't have issues with GHB I do however have issues with scumbags that drug peoples drinks.
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One of the quite real dangers of GHB is that it takes such a tiny amount that people who even have no ill intent could harm themselves or friends. I did ponder the thought experiment to some distributed by bartender and some way to ensure no one doses with booze or to that of dangerous levels.

We, of course, shall never see a setup such as this for GHB or ketamine, as they did find over a decade or two ago (I forget when doh!) which had booze sales dropping when ketamine as available. The amusing part also comes into the possible total actual harm statistically to deaths, accidents and health related social costs.

Not that by any remote way do I think people wouldn't OD, considering that people now mix a variety already. I'm not against such things in most cases, just to be clear. Heh, people... OD on fast food, takes longer though.

Now, as for your experience.
No longer do I visit the local bar scene, and it was more to visit my friends, not to forget dollar drink niiightts. Anyways, good chance and perhaps just the way we all were mentality wise, we did always seem to have an eye out for any of that evil lurking around. Never encountered much of any violence or of that ilk, beyond a silly thief that we caught somehow.

That would be interesting to see if there would be some form of simple wireless device that alerts specified contacts (offhand just if you have friends in the area/building/room) a parameter or two trigger, such as vitals. Also, we have that GPS fun to even bring greater safety for all... in theory. Humans are still humans.

So, life in prison for drink spikers? Death? What?
I find some actions very easy to find done by citizens forfeiting their life, though not to torture them as it seems some seek more that justice or merely to remove the cancer.




To the topic itself:

One day, it would be nice to have such individuals as Deb Stanaland providing some hard data backing up such claims.

It will never cease to have me wonder what world these people live in, which is far far way to this reality here with the real "DATE RAPE DRUG" seeming to slip by silly groups such as Crisis Response. I suppose allowing her to throw out that claim without a little further look to see where see finds her statement to be true.
How dare I say slip by? This is the only time the group has crossed my path, and the only time such groups have thus far are to attack GHB, yet again never drawing attention to booze.


The sheer rape stats on females from males either whist drunk or sober are so sicken and retch, it almost harms me in proverbial spirit, being male as so many that seem to not care much to their actions.

I will be rather surprised if there is something she has to cite that is valid to make ketamine anything to her statement.

The sheer loss to the assisted psychotherapeutic use along with just holding science and knowledge back overall from whining fools to the harms of what they know either little of or quite a lot, yet it's all refuted bunk. Not only the rather inane date-rape crap, however, that IS a part of the problem.



Time to go inquire with the possible enemy
Then I pause to annoyingly try to be reasonable and darnit, time to see her reasons
 
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