Official Heroin Discussion Thread IV

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Now days the NARC pigs here in london drive anything & everything. I remember 10-15 years ago they would always be in either a Taurus, Thunderbird/Cougar or Crown Vic. You could also tell by the license plate # if u were familiar with them.
 
oklahomablacktar said:
Ive had trouble with going from H to sub....Last time i did sub too soon after doing H that shit sent me straight into withdrawl....fuckin sucked....Ive waited close to 24 hours to doing sub and it still put me in withdrawl....I take subutex tho and i also shoot them. However i been slammin subutex for a couple years so it doesnt seem like they work very well. I can shoot a subutex at 11pm at night and get high off H around 9-10 a.m. and feel the full effect. But, ive heard some people tell me if they do sub they cant get high for up to 24 hours. So i dunno
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If they take suboxen, no they won't feel the dope for quite some time, but the beauty of subutex is if you shoot that at 11pm, you CAN get high at 11:01! No dam blocker in the subutex, that dam noloxone! And if you take the subutex AFTER you did dope, no matter how long you wait or don't wait, it will not send you into the wd's.

Also, thanx for the responses Shake, Bearded & Chinky!

Shake, whenever you have to start a new heroin thread, just my opinion, but I think it should be called Official Heroin Discussion IV II or IV 2.
 
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next one will be V since this wan is the 4th installment was the only reason it got the IV distinctions. the IV in the title is in no way in relation to the method of using your dope. allthough its nice
 
anonymous6619 said:
If they take suboxen, no they won't feel the dope for quite some time, but the beauty of subutex is if you shoot that at 11pm, you CAN get high at 11:01! No dam blocker in the subutex, that dam noloxone!
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This isn't true.

The nalaxone in suboxone isn't even "active" so to speak. The bupe out-competes it, so your opiate receptors only have bupe in them whether you take suboxone or subutex.

Both the suboxone and subutex will block other opiates from "working" since the bupe from the sub is in the receptors.

The bupe is also what causes precip w.d's, not the naloxone (although naloxone does on its own, it doesn't when taken with buprenorphine).
 
Tommyboy723 said:
This isn't true.

The nalaxone in suboxone isn't even "active" so to speak. The bupe out-competes it, so your opiate receptors only have bupe in them whether you take suboxone or subutex.

Both the suboxone and subutex will block other opiates from "working" since the bupe from the sub is in the receptors.

The bupe is also what causes precip w.d's, not the naloxone (although naloxone does on its own, it doesn't when taken with buprenorphine).
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Ok, well not at all what i've heard & read, also my own personal experience has been that yes i can get high wether or not i have taken subutex & it has never sent me into wd's...ever! Plus, everyone is different, so if you
're right, dont think i'm crazy (just lucky!) But i won't fuck with the suboxen that way, i won't take that chance.Suboxen makes me feel like shit alone, let alone trying to add dope to that mix!


And this is for anyone that may have a clue. For the past 3 months i habe solwed down my used quite a bit, but i haven't been able to go 1 day without chipping off a fraction of my subutex. like maybe .10 (not 10...lmao), anyway, i still have wicked insomnai (it's 3am now for fucks sake). Like I don't have those unbearable wd's, but i do feel achy (muscles, stretching), eyes tear. So. I gurss my question would be...is this normal waking up shit that normal people experience every day? Or can it still be the effects of the tiny bit of sub still in me? Sorry if I sound a bit ignorant, but I have been doing dope for 19ish years straight, never a clean break. Thanx guys.

Happy nods :)
 
anony it takes a god 2 -4 months to your body to fully adjust to not doing dope everyday and with your history it may take it longer than than. keep in mind imo everytyme you do just chip weather it be d ope or subs it resets the whole cycle of readjusting your body to a life without dope. ya get what iam saying?
 
anonymous6619 said:
Ok...

And this is for anyone that may have a clue. For the past 3 months i habe solwed down my used quite a bit, but i haven't been able to go 1 day without chipping off a fraction of my subutex. like maybe .10 (not 10...lmao), anyway, i still have wicked insomnai (it's 3am now for fucks sake). Like I don't have those unbearable wd's, but i do feel achy (muscles, stretching), eyes tear. So. I gurss my question would be...is this normal waking up shit that normal people experience every day? Or can it still be the effects of the tiny bit of sub still in me? Sorry if I sound a bit ignorant, but I have been doing dope for 19ish years straight, never a clean break. Thanx guys.

Happy nods :)
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I experienced the same thing when I was getting off the subs. It sucks, but once you're completely off the subs then it takes about a week or so and you're sleep should be fairly close to normal. This was just my experience though, but after that week I was able to sleep a lot better.

Another time I was getting off those, I had two blows that I would bump off of to get the sleep back to normal. I used blows because H has a much shorter half-life. IMO it's better to quit off a drug with a short half-life so the drug detox doesn't drag on as long as subs or methadone would last.

Good Luck
 
I made Team NOD tonight, after 8 months of laying low. Granted it's not smack, but it was 120mg of delicious IV Kool-Aid blue oxy. Definitely had my fucking head spinning and brought me to the ground when I pushed the plunger and I've been sitting here with my face in my keyboard for two hours now. Ah, I missed it. Still gonna keep low though only using very rarely until I'm off state parole. Seen my PO yesterday and he says I'm doing real good and that he's surprised. If I keep it up a couple more months, he might release me early before my max out date in March 2012. But yea.. so high and excited. I might take a picture of my other shot I have when I get it prepared.

I feel like a kid in a candy store inside Toy's R US that has a Chuckee Cheese in it...
 
Shit, I've been in Korea and clean for 6 weeks but next Wednesday I'm going back (baby don'tcha wanna go) to sweet home Chicago. I have very mixed feelings about staying clean. I know my parents will be testing me from time to time. My boyfriend doesn't want me going back to it. And even though it's pretty inconvenient for me to get blows I don't know if I'd be able to 'chip'.

Arghhh I just want to get high, sometimes I wish no one gave a fuck about me so they'd just let me shoot diesel in peace. Anyone else get that?
 
iris acht said:
Arghhh I just want to get high, sometimes I wish no one gave a fuck about me so they'd just let me shoot diesel in peace. Anyone else get that?
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All the time, I constantly feel I get undue pressure and criticism from people in my life for doin d. Had I never been arrested, my habit most likely would have been kept in the shadows, and I'd probably still have a job, be going to school, and have a gf. Now I feel like I dug my own grave and I can't even lay in it without someone being on my ass, whilst using is really the only thing that makes me content/not give a shit about all this crap
 
I hate when you wake up sick shittin your pants...call your people and on the drive the sickness strangly dissappears until you get to where you have to go and play the damn waiting game..wait for 10min and your ready to shit yourself..then you cop and and all most instantly you feel normal again for the ride home c0ause you know the dope is in your pocket...at least that what happens to me
 
chinky said:
I hate when you wake up sick shittin your pants...call your people and on the drive the sickness strangly dissappears until you get to where you have to go and play the damn waiting game..wait for 10min and your ready to shit yourself..then you cop and and all most instantly you feel normal again for the ride home c0ause you know the dope is in your pocket...at least that what happens to me
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this goes to show that atleast some part of the dopesickness is mental- still sucks nonetheless.
 
dmopz said:
this goes to show that atleast some part of the dopesickness is mental- still sucks nonetheless.
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Fuck yeah man, alot of it is mental shit bro. I can be sick as fuck and as soon as I get the dope in my possession I instantly feel better, same shit Chinky was saying.
 
iris acht said:
Shit, I've been in Korea and clean for 6 weeks but next Wednesday I'm going back (baby don'tcha wanna go) to sweet home Chicago. I have very mixed feelings about staying clean. I know my parents will be testing me from time to time. My boyfriend doesn't want me going back to it. And even though it's pretty inconvenient for me to get blows I don't know if I'd be able to 'chip'.

Arghhh I just want to get high, sometimes I wish no one gave a fuck about me so they'd just let me shoot diesel in peace. Anyone else get that?
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Story of my life. Right now I'm on some pretty intense probation and they randomly drug test me. Most people I met that fucks w/ diesel cannot just "chip" maybe for a little while they can maintain but after a longer period of time it usually consumes the individual. How is Korea by the way I was born there and never got to visit it since?
 
It's great for cheap clothes and cheap delicious food. It's terrible for the drug user - nothing anywhere. When I mentioned I had smoked marijuana, a college girl at PNU asked me "is it very addictive?"

Unfortunately I only know a few phrases of Korean so it was pretty hard to be living here with relatives who speak very broken English. I'm in Busan, not Seoul, so the people here are much more provincial, but it was still a good experience. Are you Korean or just randomly born there?
 
I WILL NEVER DO BALTIMORE SCRAMBLE AGAIN! God knows what is in those capsules next to the miniscule amount of diacrtylmorphine (sp?) aka heroin. Ruined one syringe because whatever was in it hardened like cement on the syringe when it sat too long. I hope I don't end up with a blood clot or stroke or heart attack using this shit. I did get a rush and nod so there was heroin it but God knows what those uneducated piece of shit corner boys cut this shit with.

If it ain't stamped blue bags, or raw I ain't touching it.
 
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