Official Heroin Discussion Thread IV

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down508 said:
yeah on the east coast the dopes all powder and you dont have to cook it. according to wikipedia china white is slang for α-Methylfentanyl which is the first designer drug. this stuff appeared on the west coast so its possible people over there associate any powdered heroin with china white.
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Originally it was alpha methylfentanyl but nowadays they call any fentanyl analogue "China white" so they can sell it as heroin.
 
It's regional slang. "China White" may refer to fent or fent-laced dope in some places while in others it's just slang for white powdered dope.

~CTdopeLove
 
Good advie there iris acht for copping on foot/by foot,etc.. I use the dial and meet system though,and I walk to the nearby place we got prearranged to meet,usually a block from my house,but thats different than cold copping on the street and I am male so.it is of course different plus I know the people that come to meet me ,one of like 5 or 6 working for the Dial and Delivery dude I know,he never comes personally unless it's an amount over 10 grams and I rarely buy more than 1 or 2 grams at a time,so I only met him once in person or maybe twice,and it's better for me like that since they will bring me my shit and it will be close (like I said a block from my house),and they always show on time and always weigh there product straight up,and never is one time bad shit and another good,it's always consistent with these people and they don't charge extra to deliver to me or anyone,they want that repeat business!! anyway good tips there iris for street copping heroin...
 
the real china white refers to South East Asian #4 heroin hcl..but some people have used it as a term for any white powder heroin and also for "synthetic heroin" which is some fentanyl analogue,but the real china white is hard to find in the US,altho I am sure there is some coming into the country in small amounts..dunno actually,Vancouver.BC. has white heroin and I do not know if it is from Columbia or SEA,or where..so it is possible to get the real china white there I suppose,or it could just be white powder heroin they are calling China White,as was the case in Denver about 5 years ago,when I met some dude at a bar who was from out of state also,and I asked him where the "white dope was" expecting to get an answer of "tar is around,etc.." but he took me to a nearby house and they sold me some white heroin that was pretty damn pure,and they called it "china white" ,but as a nickname I'm sure because it was white powder heroin,,,so...who knows...
 
im from ct but get my H from NY its not that far from me. H from city is cheep but to me its brown powder shit. Now with the new oxys there is going to be a big rush on dope I hope it goes back to the day of the RED BAGS anyone remembers those when 8 junkes a day where dieing from that dope it was so pure
 
JohnnyHopkins said:
You think hitting these spots before noon is better than evening rush hour? Something between 7 and 10am versus 4 to 6pm? I scooped today around 5pm, and it seems a bit more dangerous(in terms of LE being around)...and will these cats usually honor the buy a chi-town jab(hundo) and get 11-13? It was refreshing to see a spot not try and tell me they were selling dubs...like I said, big leagues, no more of the rank bullshit I've been dealing with for the past month or so...

Again, sorry for the noob questions...my father passed away a few days ago and my mind has been all over the place and I'd just like to focus on what is real and what the corner boys appreciate. No specifics needed, just answer with generalities...thanks for reading y'all..take care.

EDIT: Nice post iris and lacey...got what i needed.
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EDIT2: Same area, few blocks down, got the old these be dubs line again(green superman), told them I've been doing this for a while and I know they 'aint dubs...but couldn't quite talk them down to the reg price, but very close to it. Any psychological games/tricks/etc that some of you have used in the past to get the corner boys to give you the regular price?

Of course, acting tough/confident is key, and I have no fears when dealing with those who work in the open-air markets(they just happen to wear white T-Shirts instead of a tie and a suit) and I treat them with respect, as I know they are facing serious charges should they get popped by a Narc...but still, any advice would be appreciated. Ideally I'd have a number/meet-up spot/etc, but I'm still on the prowl I guess...again, thanks for taking the time to read, I do appreciate it. Spending time on here "talking" with y'all, even if it isn't face to face, has helped me deal with all of the bullshit life has thrown at me lately. Be safe y'all...
 
Unbreakable said:
best time is when they do a shift change... learn the hours...
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The most important thing every junkie should learn. All police departments have different hours and shifts, but most of them are close to the same thing. (i.e - 1st, 2nd and 3rd shifts)

The reason early morning like 7-10am is a good time to cop is because a) 3rd shift is getting off or off already. No cops like making a petty drug arrest towards the end of their shift (not to say it doesn't happen, but the odds are in your favor). And b) 1st shift is just getting on, a lot of the veteran cops take it slow when they get to work (coffee, breakfast, paper, etc). Again no cops want to be doing paperwork 8 in the morning. There are always exceptions and if you don't that you can be popped at any time you are an idiot. But there are obviously more cops at work during the day, especially early afternoon to midday.

Arresting somebody for a few bags of dope is a lot of paperwork. I'm talking a few hours if it's just a random arrest. Especially if you are going to county.
 
JohnnyHopkins said:
Any psychological games/tricks/etc that some of you have used in the past to get the corner boys to give you the regular price?
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I would just walk away.

I had a phone connect (so diff situation) and my friend would drive out to me and we would meet my connect. My friend was stubborn, I give him credit. If our connect wasn't there, he would straight up leave and head home. I would call back the connect, and tell him to cut the order in half b/c my friend left, and he would always tell me to call him back and tell him he would do it for cheaper (not getting into pricing, but he really did lower the price).

I know it's different cold copping, but walking away proves that
a) your not a cop, as I think you posted b4 that some corner boys tried calling you out, and
b) you aren't a desperate junkie, so to them you are probably better business than the fiend that is begging for lower prices and to be spotted a few bags. Instead you just want your moneys worth, and have the time and patience to get just that.

Also, I would use the "I only have $X on me, can you do the full bundle (I think u guys call it a jab) insted of me having to come back later". If what you have on you is close, then they should do it to avoid more heat w/ you coming back, and also since by me anyway they don't wanna have to break up bundles and remember how many stamps (in my case) are banded together.
 
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DavisK4high247 said:
Vancouver.BC. has white heroin and I do not know if it is from Columbia or SEA,or where..so it is possible to get the real china white there I suppose,or it could just be white powder heroin they are calling China White.
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95%+ of the dope in Vancouver is SEA (China White). The few times I had Columbian dope it was a very light beige in color.
 
gibby_420 said:
95%+ of the dope in Vancouver is SEA (China White). The few times I had Columbian dope it was a very light beige in color.
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Do you have to mix it with citric acid for it to dissolve? I think thats what they have at the "supervised injection sites" over in B.C.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
Do you have to mix it with citric acid for it to dissolve? I think thats what they have at the "supervised injection sites" over in B.C.
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No any powdered dope in the US should be straight from the jump. If you gotta fuck with it to get it to dissolve that's a big clue that you jsut got fucked over.

I've had white dope before and I've had "China White", IME brown rocks have been the best dope as far as consistent purity. Also China white is usually jsut a nickname for dope thats been cut with fent to make it stretch...look up the difference in effects between fent and H so that if you try it you'll have an idea if it's just some good powder or if it's Fent....tread with caution tho, this is the type of shit that leaves dead junkies for miles, people think its all good and shoot up what they think is their normal amount when really they just did like 2-3x that.
 
mdmantpa said:
No any powdered dope in the US should be straight from the jump. If you gotta fuck with it to get it to dissolve that's a big clue that you jsut got fucked over.

I've had white dope before and I've had "China White", IME brown rocks have been the best dope as far as consistent purity. Also China white is usually jsut a nickname for dope thats been cut with fent to make it stretch...look up the difference in effects between fent and H so that if you try it you'll have an idea if it's just some good powder or if it's Fent....tread with caution tho, this is the type of shit that leaves dead junkies for miles, people think its all good and shoot up what they think is their normal amount when really they just did like 2-3x that.
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Yea, I know what we get here in the US and that we don't have to heat east coast powder, and also the extreme dangers associated with fent dope. I was asking the poster from Vancouver if he had to dissolve his "china white" in an acidic mix. The reason I asked was because I have seen that on documentaries about the dope problem in vancouver, and also because I think that if you need citric acid to dissolve it, then it isn't #4.
 
Around NJ its all pretty pure white dope, or slightly offwhite if compared to a white peice of paper.

Usually if I got anything brownish it sucked ass.

Id be scared to move to the west coast and be stuck wit tar..but it sounds like its a little cheaper and better.

Everyone says how good h is in NJ, but i hear of people getting BLASTED off of s. itss all relavance to tolernace I guess. But ive been off 80mg methadone for about a month(after 6mo use) and swithcing from H to bupe and the methadone made my tolerance so high, I need like 3-5 buns of GOOD nj (paterson) dope..bags are like half (if that) the size of bags in NY.

Honestly compared to some dope i got in staten island, its like 3 bags gives me as good a rush as 10 bags from paterson nj. And this is shit poeple are ratin 6+ on the new stamp site (which is a seperate entity from BL now.)
 
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Tommyboy723 said:
I would just walk away.

I had a phone connect (so diff situation) and my friend would drive out to me and we would meet my connect. My friend was stubborn, I give him credit. If our connect wasn't there, he would straight up leave and head home. I would call back the connect, and tell him to cut the order in half b/c my friend left, and he would always tell me to call him back and tell him he would do it for cheaper (not getting into pricing, but he really did lower the price).

I know it's different cold copping, but walking away proves that
a) your not a cop, as I think you posted b4 that some corner boys tried calling you out, and
b) you aren't a desperate junkie, so to them you are probably better business than the fiend that is begging for lower prices and to be spotted a few bags. Instead you just want your moneys worth, and have the time and patience to get just that.

Also, I would use the "I only have $X on me, can you do the full bundle (I think u guys call it a jab) insted of me having to come back later". If what you have on you is close, then they should do it to avoid more heat w/ you coming back, and also since by me anyway they don't wanna have to break up bundles and remember how many stamps (in my case) are banded together.
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Good advice, and you're probably right(ie walking away..proving you're not a desperate junkie, just a sort-of desperate one!)...the "I only have $X on me has worked in the past too"...

But in the end, if you let them get over on you once, it's game over...you gotta make them play fair from the start. Keep the power even-stevens, only way to play...but I think we all can understand when desperation comes into play and the things a desperate opiate addict will do for a fix. In Chicago, you can just move on to the next corner, but in Iowa, well, you need to man up from the get go, or accept your fate and play the beta in the dope game.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
Do you have to mix it with citric acid for it to dissolve? I think thats what they have at the "supervised injection sites" over in B.C.
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Tommyboy723 said:
Yea, I know what we get here in the US and that we don't have to heat east coast powder, and also the extreme dangers associated with fent dope. I was asking the poster from Vancouver if he had to dissolve his "china white" in an acidic mix. The reason I asked was because I have seen that on documentaries about the dope problem in vancouver, and also because I think that if you need citric acid to dissolve it, then it isn't #4.
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The "China White" dope in Vancouver is always #4. All the citric acid you're seeing being handed out is to meltdown rocks, IV cocaine use is very high there.

I've had brown #3 from Toronto, Afghan shit I would guess. Tried smoking it once but pointless if ur already banging the shit IMO. Had to use citric to fix that shit, kinda a pain in the ass.
 
China White is slang for fentanyl and other analogues and also heroin. The real meaning goes back to Vietnam. SEA dope is usually white or close to it and the China part well it's Vietnam. "China White".. it's not rocket science. If anyone is selling you China White in the states, you are most likely beat. Unless they know what they are talking about and mean fent. Most idiots just use the term because it sounds cool and like "good dope".
 
Do you Chicagoans think that taking the El from waaay up North to the West Side is a good/bad idea? Not asking for specific locations, but are there dope spots within a few blocks of some of the El stops there? It's a long train ride, I don't want to waste another half hour walking to the spot.
 
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