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Official Ambein THREAD (if there isnt already one)

kunmo

kunmo

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SO im part of a small % of people i guess. After talking to everyone i know they all say they trip face on it, some blackout, and some do shit they will never remember.


For me... I can take or snort 10 pills (10MGs x 10) in a day (no tolerance) and will only feel relaxed and a little dissaciotive.... SO it works like a super benzo for me rather than a sleep pill, i feel no urge to sleep. And only one time i experienced any type of visuals.

And i ahve tried mixing Opiates, Gabapentin, and Valium/lorazepam with only slightly better results.

So can we discuss this subject for my sanity and for your information.
 
Sorry, all I ever got off them was a good night's sleep. An excellents night's sleep actually, but I never tried to stay awake on them.Shit, nevermind I'm thinking of lunesta.
 
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I have no idea what kind of help you're asking for, but here's my experience with ambien.

First time was 10mg with about half a bottle of wine. I remember almost none of the night but recall enjoying the trip but with no visual effects.

I've done it without other substances a couple times since, and experienced intense visual effects on 10mg. On 15mg I just sleep.

I have a friend who took 20mg and I was with him the whole night. We were outside all night walking around, and he never felt any tiredness at all, and did not "trip" at all. He appeared to be acting completely normall. However, we did things that night that he wouldn't likely have done otherwise, and regretted when sober. He had pretty much no sense of judgement the whole night.

I guess it just affects different people differently.

However, be careful not to overdose. Wikipedia: "Blood or plasma zolpidem concentrations are usually in a range of 30-300 μg/L in persons receiving the drug therapeutically, 100-700 μg/L in those arrested for impaired driving and 1000-7000 μg/L in victims of acute overdosage."
 
so what dosage is unsafe? i thought it was like over 100 ambiens then it got dangerous. What your saying is aprox 10 is dangerous , 3-5 is kinda dangerous, and over 100 is death.

Ill bump 2-3 some night but stop there. But ya i have the no inihibition thats about it. So that prob puts me in the 100-700 range. I mean this is not my first time and i have no tolerance so i wanted to make sure there was someone else out there that experience almost nothing from it. I mean does 6'4 300 (football / athletic build) have to do with anything? I need like 60-70mgs of valium to get any type of noticeable high or relaxation. And that was with no tolerance because i tend to abuse Opiates instead lolol. So maybe my GABA receptors are BEASTS haha


Also i dont get any type of tiredness or grogginess either....
 
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I've never found them to be that good of a Hypnotic myself. And if I want to get any visual effects from them I have to wait a very long time between doses, as it only seems to be present for the first dose after a long period of abstinence.

Other than that I just feel slightly dissociated. They always worsen "Exploding Brain Syndrome" and are useless in every other respect other than feeling a bit weird and bringing about a compulsion to eat every single pill in a night :\
 
Well i must say this about them. THey were great when i couldlt get any OC's and Sub's. So i had to make it for 4 days with weed and ambien. So i got to know it lolol. They did completely kill my WD's well i was dissociated enough to not notice anyway, So i guess there good if u want to feel like a zombie to avoid thinking about drugs or re-uping.

THanks
 
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so what dosage is unsafe? i thought it was like over 100 ambiens then it got dangerous. What your saying is aprox 10 is dangerous , 3-5 is kinda dangerous, and over 100 is death.

Ill bump 2-3 some night but stop there. But ya i have the no inihibition thats about it. So that prob puts me in the 100-700 range. I mean this is not my first time and i have no tolerance so i wanted to make sure there was someone else out there that experience almost nothing from it. I mean does 6'4 300 (football / athletic build) have to do with anything? I need like 60-70mgs of valium to get any type of noticeable high or relaxation. And that was with no tolerance because i tend to abuse Opiates instead lolol. So maybe my GABA receptors are BEASTS haha
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I'm really not sure what to make of the BC levels on wikipedia, because the therapeutic range is so wide.
 
ya i agree Theguy

I was thinking the range is large becasue people absorb it diff? But i dont do 10 everyday lolol just that once. But ya at night 3 of them puts me in a tranquil dissociative mood. Enough to chill, not worry to much about drugs haha, and enough to pass out when i want to. But i get no initial wave of tiredness or urge to sleep. So i have never had to try to stay awake like peole say im just awake and not much happens lolol. one thing you ahve CRSZY dream whenever you end up sleeping.
 
kunmo said:
ya i agree Theguy

I was thinking the range is large becasue people absorb it diff? But i dont do 10 everyday lolol just that once. But ya at night 3 of them puts me in a tranquil dissociative mood. Enough to chill, not worry to much about drugs haha, and enough to pass out when i want to. But i get no initial wave of tiredness or urge to sleep. So i have never had to try to stay awake like peole say im just awake and not much happens lolol. one thing you ahve CRSZY dream whenever you end up sleeping.
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Maybe you're taking it too often? I find that tolerance builds up VERY easily with zolpidem.
 
I was on an ambien Rx for a bit for insomnia.
They didn't help me one bit. I was on 10mg and they didn't help me fall asleep faster or stay asleep longer. I found them to be pretty rubbish. Tried taking two, or taking one then waking up in a few hours and redosing, neither worked well. overall they didn't help my insomnia at all and I never had any trip effects from them.

in my opinion they just affect each person differently, some they knock out cold, others feel no sedation and trip bizarely.
 
also, a doc recomended switching to the timerelease version. Ambien CR if I'm not mistaken.
I didn't because i have no health insurance so the time release ones were something like $6 per pill as they were not generic at the time (might still not be).
I had also heard bad reviews of them for people on which a standard 10mg did not work, switching to a 12.5 mg time release also did nothing.
 
i usually take a 1-2 weeks off in between large doses lolol. But as of last night and tonight no tolerance. So the best answer i can draw. Everyone acts diff to Ambien. THanks all for your help and stories to make me feel better about doing so much lolol. Also Mgrady i agree with u. Diff strokes for diff folks.
 
One more thing.... On ambein i just want to clean......... WEIRD AS FUCK i know, i cant explain it. Whenever i pop 2 or 3 or snort them i immediately start cleaning my house......
 
haha thats really weird. I do that on small doses of adderall.

thats weird that a single substance can have such a wildly different effect on diff people. I'm really curious about why this actually happens... it's not very satisfying to write it off as "drugs affect people differently."
 
i really want to try this stuff. i have a few but am apprehensive because i dont like the morning regret factor. im able now to control it with alcohol but ambien im new at. hmmm
 
personal experience with ambien (stilnox here):

10mg: don't do anything on me, even wen I stay awake. It just get me tired, but no euphoria, trip, visual or anything else.mg:

20mg: same shit expect I did terribly nightmare, i'm not gonna forget...

It seems to work very differently on people. Maybe im gonna try 30mg on the day in a few month..
 
Not trying to be a smart-arse here but if you want this to be an 'official' thread, might be a good idea spelling it right in the title. And maybe including zolpidem there too.

Will help people searching in future. ;)
 
desaparecidos said:
i really want to try this stuff. i have a few but am apprehensive because i dont like the morning regret factor. im able now to control it with alcohol but ambien im new at. hmmm
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Ambien has a very short HL and is probably almost completely out of your system by the time you wake up. I've never had any morning-after effects in all the ~6 times I've used it.
 
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