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Official 2013 NBA Thread vers. flippity floppity

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Thank You: the City of Boston
From: the State of Ohio

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congratulations to the Miami Heat for being mark ass bitches. Looking forward to seeing wade throw another tantrum on Thursday.
 
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I find this hilarious. Sports talk radio all over Boston were playing looped clips of the kid saying that all day. Very happy the Celtics pulled that one off on the road last night. Pierce's 3 with LeBron right in his face was fucking clutch. Hopefully they close this thing out in Boston tomorrow night although I'm not so confident they can beat either team from the west. I'll be happy as long as they beat the heat.
 
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congratulations to the Boston Celtics for advancing to the NBA finals oh wait
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I know it's a little bit too early to be counting my chickens, but let me tell you, I've seen a lot of LeBron... ever since he was in high school. trust me, the media circus was already blowing him up up north in Akron Saint Vincent-Saint Mary even when he was a freshman there..

to be in an elimination game in the Eastern Conference Finals is not LBJ's forte. first off, this will be another year where Boston crushes his NBA Finals hopes, just like the many, many years before that. oh well, at least maybe next year LBJ can finally surpass the C's due to their Big 3 simply being too old, but not this year. also, this is the time when LBJ flat-out quits. he quit in Cleveland and now he will quit for Miami

the sooner Miami fans realize this, the better. it took me a very long time to know this as the truth
 
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I know it's a little bit too early to be counting my chickens, but let me tell you, I've seen a lot of LeBron... ever since he was in high school. trust me, the media circus was already blowing him up up north in Akron Saint Vincent-Saint Mary even when he was a freshman there..

to be in an elimination game in the Eastern Conference Finals is not LBJ's forte. first off, this will be another year where Boston crushes his NBA Finals hopes, just like the many, many years before that. oh well, at least maybe next year LBJ can finally surpass the C's due to their Big 3 simply being too old, but not this year. also, this is the time when LBJ flat-out quits. he quit in Cleveland and now he will quit for Miami

the sooner Miami fans realize this, the better. it took me a very long time to know this as the truth
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You mean right after he left Cleveland for Miami?


The man takes an unfair amount of blame. Once again, it's Wade. Dude is over the hill, and especially without Bosh, this team is worse than most LeBron Cleveland teams. This was simply a dream that happened too late, Wade has no more career. This is two playoffs in a row that the man goes full-cripple on us. Our only hope is that James scores about 40 points, and Bosh gets decent minutes, and we somehow pull out a win. Then they have to repeat the same in game seven. After that Wade gets a knee drain or two during the Finals, and we win the only title we will ever win with the Big 1.
 
Seriously.. Bosh isn't in there and Wade keeps getting sub 20 point nights..

Durant, Parker, Duncan, Pierce, Rondo - any of these guys are allowed to have an off night. Hell, they can have an off series. They won't get that much blame. It's a team game and defensive schemes can hard lock a player out if that's what you're trying to do. LeBron is averaging a triple double right now and people are acting like he's quitting. wtf.
 
^ whatever happened to "hey, the Miami Heat are better without Bosh" argument, then? why someone would place themselves as a Miami Heat apologist in an argument when they aren't even a Miami fan?

he usually does average a triple-double. but the problem with LeBron that distances himself away from Durant, Duncan, Pierce, and Rondo... is that when the seconds are ticking away in the game, he is just going to be standing around the perimeter as a decoy. he doesn't want the ball, you can straight up see that from your living room
 
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Seriously.. Bosh isn't in there and Wade keeps getting sub 20 point nights..

Durant, Parker, Duncan, Pierce, Rondo - any of these guys are allowed to have an off night. Hell, they can have an off series. They won't get that much blame. It's a team game and defensive schemes can hard lock a player out if that's what you're trying to do. LeBron is averaging a triple double right now and people are acting like he's quitting. wtf.
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I realize James brought some of it on himself but this incessant beating down on him in the media is beyond ridiculous. At least Steve Kerr admitted the other night that the media is nitpicking his flaws.
 
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^ whatever happened to "hey, the Miami Heat are better without Bosh" argument, then? why someone would place themselves as a Miami Heat apologist in an argument when they aren't even a Miami fan?

he usually does average a triple-double. but the problem with LeBron that distances himself away from Durant, Duncan, Pierce, and Rondo... is that when the seconds are ticking away in the game, he is just going to be standing around the perimeter as a decoy. he doesn't want the ball, you can straight up see that from your living room
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DWade is the closer for the Heat. Kobe is the best closer of this generation. Everyone knows he wants and will get the ball in the 4th Qtr but James is not of the mentality. I dont know why we need him to become something he isnt especially when he has DWade to take those critical shots late in games. Who does Kobe have as a decoy? No one. IMO, DWade has it made in that regard because no team will double him with James on the floor and the game on the line.
 
axl blaze said:
^ whatever happened to "hey, the Miami Heat are better without Bosh" argument, then? why someone would place themselves as a Miami Heat apologist in an argument when they aren't even a Miami fan?

he usually does average a triple-double. but the problem with LeBron that distances himself away from Durant, Duncan, Pierce, and Rondo... is that when the seconds are ticking away in the game, he is just going to be standing around the perimeter as a decoy. he doesn't want the ball, you can straight up see that from your living room
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I can't believe how biased you are - it's 100% laughable.

Being realistic doesn't mean I'm an apologist. You're just a hater - flat out.

I said "they seem to be playing better with out him" - you know - like over the course of a few games. Do you even watch their games? Doubt it. They made good adjustments and were really improving as a team during that stretch. But you can't be down your 3rd best player and have your 2nd best player playing like shit repeatedly and expect to do well in the ECF - everybody knows that.

I'm really not a Heat fan. I've watched 90% of the playoffs this year because I've been sick and just taking it easy. Lebron's averaging nearly a triple double and playing really amazing basketball but people are still shitting all over him. It's stupid, get over it already.



Yep he's collapsed in the 4th during really pivotal series in his career.. sucks.

You might call these excuses but I call them reality:
1. He's never had a good coach - a championship coach.
2. He's carried poor teams much further into the playoffs consistently his entire career on his back.
3. He's had to play heavy minutes and whenever he leaves the floor they immediately fall into a deficit.

Again, I'm not a fan but here's what I see when I see the Heat play. They have horrible offensive rhythm. The other team switches defensive schemes and they are in huge trouble. They lack perimeter shooting on a team that thrives in the paint - making them easy to counter. They make stupid turn overs constantly. They don't hustle in 3rd (usually). Most importantly, it seems like Spoelstra gets really out coached in series by the top tier teams. Note that I'm not blaming him, just saying.

You combine all of these together and look at what Lebron has had to work with over the years and I really don't see how he could get it done.

I'm not trying to apologize for the guy, I just think the hate is irrational and largely undeserved and you act like him standing where his coach tells him to stand in the closing seconds of the game means everything when it's just the same old tired argument. I'll defend Westbrook the same way. He gets shit on all the time by the media and he's a great player too.
 
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well I didn't mean to quote you over that Heat sans Bosh statement, even if you did apparently say so. I meant to quote the general sports collective and their school of thought that the Heat would somehow improve without Bosh

the media and sports fans give LBJ such a hard time for two reasons. one, with an shocking amount of pride and idiocy, he sets himself up for it. I'm not even going to get into this, because I'm sure we all agree on this? two, and this is why that "good job! good effort!" meme blew up properly...

LBJ is an incredibly gifted basketball player, no doubting that. and throughout the years his teams fail to win a ring, but we can always point to his stats and say "well he sure played a real nice game." for example, I remember after the Game 4 loss in the ECF LBJ said something like "we played good enough to set our team up to win. that's all you can ever ask"

and that's not all you can ever ask. would Rajon Rondo or Kevin Durant or Tim Duncan ever say that? hell no

but tonight the Heat are facing elimination, and historically speaking, elimination games have never been kind to LBJ's teams

but at least you LBJ-apologists can post about his triple-double here, after the Heat loss, and say that he gave it a good effort
 
LOL still calling me an apologist.
If that's what it is to try to talk sense to haters than I guess that's what I am.


He deserves hate for exactly 2 things:
1. The Decision
2. The Miami pre-season party thing where they promised X championships

Maybe you're just blinded by your rage but players say all the time "We played really hard, they just played harder" - just last night Duncan (sort of) blamed whistles for their loss. Players, coaches, analyists, and fans say lots of shit. You seem to get caught up in what they are saying more than how they are playing.


Name 1 year in Cleveland where Lebron had a team that was a championship team. Where you could look at the list of champions, click on that year, and say "yeah they were the best team that year." There wasn't one. The first year he got put on a team that could contend he took them to the Finals immediately and they were taken out by a deeper more experienced team with a better coach. That's basketball. If you can't understand the fundamentals then you're simply a hater.

Right now the Heat are about to lose (rightly) to a better Celtics team. They have 4 of the best players in the league in all the right positions with championship experience, an amazing coach, and a franchise/city with championship roots. These aren't apologies! That's basketball! Asking Lebron to overcome that is pure fantasy and it's a fantasy ESPN has been selling people like you for 15 years.

Lebron haters are just pissed off they got sold a product that didn't deliver. They should be mad at ESPN for selling it and themselves for buying it. 1 guy can't run a league. That's just retarded.
 
got sold a product from ESPN that didn't deliver? I'm a Cleveland fan and he left, that's why I'm a "hater"

it's not about numbers or how many trip-dubs you can get - IT'S ABOUT WINNING

and the NBA, out of all of the pro-sports leagues, is the #1 league as to where one guy can absolutely run it. just look at Michael Jordan and to a lesser extent, Kobe Bryant
 
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Thunder are going to win the championship this year, regardless of who comes out of the east
 
^ I agree. the one-two punch of Durant and Westbrook is just going to be too much

I'm vigorously rooting for OKC because it would be a nice change of events to see a small-market franchise win a title, for once
 
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