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serotoninstorm said:
As the title says, anyone here not believe in 'addiction' as it is defined in the dictionary: "The state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma."

Honestly, I just don't buy it. I don't believe that it is possible to be "...enslaved to a habit..."

If the will is there, anyone can quit doing something, or at least do something more responsibly.

For a while I thought I was "addicted" to alcohol, and had a bad habit with weed... but I realized I thought that because I told myself I was. When I realized it was all an illusion, it was easy as pie to just stop. I understand not wanting to deal with withdrawl symptoms from heavy opiate or amphetamine (ab)use, but what's so hard about just being responsible?

Mkay, rant/vent over.

Discuss if you'd like.
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so what happens when youre so addicted to a substance than even if you have the will to quit it, your dopamine receptors are so down regulated you simply can't feel happy anymore? not believing in addiction is as stupid as not believing in brain damage.
 
melange said:
i believe in addiction but i do not believe it is a "disease"
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Well, what do consider a "disease" then?...A disease is defined as "An abnormal condition of an organism that impairs bodily functions". Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this applies to every sense of the word "addiction", like gambling addiction, or sexual addiction, but there are certainly drugs the can cause this.
 
What dictionary uses the word "enslaved" in their definition of addiction?? I think whoever wrote that was feeling a bit too poetic for a lexicographer...
 
try heroin. tell me how u feel on days ithout it. and your willing to do ANYTHING. and i litrerally mean ANYYYTHING for it


then tell me. addiction dosnt exist!

;-)
 
This is very similar to the ALL DRUGS ARE JUST PLACEBOS thread... and for this reason I'm going to merge the two together... If you want it unmerged talk to me and we can chat... When I say talk I mean PM me
 
I believe in addiction, without a doubt. But I don't buy the "once an addict always an addict" belief. Thats a crock of shit in my opinion and so is the whole addiction is a disease.
 
Powder Case

I found a great thing to carry my powder to work with me.

A cologne sample bottle. Be sure to get the ones WITHOUT the sprayer, and the ones with just the rubber cap. Cut the rubber stem off to store more of your product.

AND always clean your bottle throughly. Yesterday I did a line from the bottle, and I nearly puked because of the intense perfume smell of my tweak. I totally forgot about the burn and the drip - it was that overpowering. Clean with alcohol, thinner, or nail poish remover - and obviously be sure to rinse the inside VERY WELL with soap and water several times.

Enjoy!
 
I'm still not buying it. Drugs or otherwise aren't making choices for anyone. Anything can be habit forming, and many things much more than others, but habits can be broken if the right steps are taking (i.e. gradual reduction in use). And overcoming a habit doesn't mean not using that particular drug anymore... it's just about being responsible.
 
EnYAY said:
try heroin. tell me how u feel on days ithout it. and your willing to do ANYTHING. and i litrerally mean ANYYYTHING for it


then tell me. addiction dosnt exist!

;-)
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Addiction and withdrawal are two completely different things.
 
burn out said:
so what happens when youre so addicted to a substance than even if you have the will to quit it, your dopamine receptors are so down regulated you simply can't feel happy anymore? not believing in addiction is as stupid as not believing in brain damage.
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Don't get me wrong, what your saying is absolutely true... but I never said anything about quiting anything. Responsible use is all it takes for something to not be detrimental to your health. People blame "addiction" for their own stupidity by abusing potentially harmful drugs.
 
Mz_Thizzle said:
^oh haha I didnt see that part. I still dont think habit and addiction are the same thing though.
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Because they are not the same thing. Addiction is a fairy tale, lol.
 
Addiction certainly exists.

Most people lump up the word addiction with other things. There a difference between physical addiction and dependence.


It's a proven fact(from brain scans, behavior, etc) that they both exist.
 
Oh, another thing... FME most people exaggerate addiction's strength. If the user truly wants to quit, it's possible and much easier than what most believe.
 
I'm guessing you also just invented the wheel?

Seriously though, what you're describing is a vial. Drugs are packaged in them in a lot of locations.
 
So basically you're just giving us a vial of how to store powdered drugs... no conversation pieces no jumping off points. Sounds like DC JOURNAL material if I ever heard an arguement for it.
 
serotoninstorm said:
... but I never said anything about quiting anything.
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Umm....yes you did :
seratoninstorm said:
If the will is there, anyone can quit doing something, or at least do something more responsibly
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=D

for some people, simply cutting back on something isn't enough. Plently of people have to quit using drugs or else their addiction could kill them.
 
^Or it just slowly gets out of hand again. Its not like people choose to get addicted to something. "Oh, being a heroin addict sounds just peachy! Thats what I want to be when I grow up!" Its more like "man, I'm still not as high as last time" *do a little more* "hmm, still not as good" *do more* and so on, it can be a slow but inevitable process that starts out responsibly.
 
Yo shit was fucking crazy! I get in the car with my boys and we go to cop some more dope. We go shit in the car already. My friend is being a fucking asshole and we doing 110 on the fucking highway and 2 cops pass us and they put on there lights and do a U-Turn in the road. My friend decides to speed up and now we are doing 120-130 and freaking the fuck out because its a fucking chase now. A mile down the road I'm like yo bro your not going to get away pull into a driveway or side road. Luckily he slows down a bit before doing this, but he pulls the fucking E break and we slide into this persons driveway, go through a fucking wooden horse fence twice and then drive to the end of a field. We are kissing our asses goodbye, right now we are fucked. The fucking cops speed by. They don't even see that we drove through a fucking fence or the tire tracks all over the field. We got the fuck up outta there and went to get our dope. I don't know how the fuck we managed to get away from the cops, not be noticed in the middle of a field, nobody hearing the fucking fence being blown apart... Shit. What a day.
 
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