ODing when smoking heroin

[vicoprophen]

yes u can o.d smoking it, you must be mad in the head to think u cant!!!

 

[negrogesic]

It is entirely plausible that someone could have a fatal overdose after smoking heroin, however, the individual would probably either have to have a relatively low tolerance, or the heroin would need to be extremely pure. Although I have never heard of a fatal OD from smoking tar or brown rocks alone, i would imagine that it has happened. Perhaps large amounts over a short period of time could be more dangerous than a single huge hit.

Also, ODing from smoking alpha-methylfentanyl or other designer dope analogues could without question lead to some fatal OD's...

 

[Sportfisher39]

I have never seen or heard of anyone Oding while smoking. I've smoked enough to pass out but not Od

 

[bhmoab1]

I bet it could be done, but with tar it would seem pretty hard.

I will fall asleep and wake up a couple hours later, dont think i could stay up to smoke enough to od, unless i just lit ahuge wad of tar but i still think id pass out first.

 

[phr]

You could OD from smoking heroin. It's more rare than iv/sniffed, but it's possible. Especially if you add a depressant to the mix. IE: You smoke your dope, then you drink a ton of beer.

 

[fizzacyst]

I have no running opiate tolerance, and have vaporaized enough clean afghan heroin base to damn near stop breathing. By clean, I mean really close to pure, leaves no real residue, etc. I thought it was in my head honestly, until the person watching me started to kind of freak out.

I smoke TONS of hash, hash oil, strong pot, DMT, etc, etc, so I am used to having far harsher things in my lungs. I feel pretty certain if I'd doubled up on my dose I could have killed myself. Thankfully I'm not that stupid and do have an idea of what sane and lethal dose ranges are, but if someone had weighed it for me incorrectly, I could have bit the dust (assuming I somehow didn't notice it was a larger volume than expected... but someone unfamiliar might not pick up on this).

High purity freebase heroin is really not that harsh at all to vaporize, just fucked up tasting - you can take in monsterous hits. Plus, it was a lot easier to "catch" the smoke inside a 2-liter soda bottle with the botom cut off, then clear that, rather than chase the fumes with a straw... so I was getting everything that went into the air in one inhalation.

Don't fuck around with it. You can die.

Now if you have tar or crappy stepped on gear, it might be rally hard to smoke, or take a long time to do so. This is not the case with purified stuff... it gets warm, warmer, warmer, fizzle... poof... it all goes up in a large wisp of narcotic vapor.

 

[thugpassion]

Expierence prevails here. And the people that smoke dope are right, you wont kill your self from smoking alone. Granted you may get in your car and then crash but it wasnt the Heroin that killed you.

 

[pkt]

Anything is possible but the fact is that the OP is not going to die from smoking heroin.

I know of a dude who died from smoking heroin but thats because he choked on his vomit, I've never heard of a direct overdose from simply smoking dope.

 

[zzITCHY420zz]

low tolerance + strong/large quantities of heroin = entirely possible to inhale enough in one go to die

i think people are forgetting that not everybody has a fair tolerance to opiates. I know many friends of mine who feel amazing after about 60mg of codeine; give them a loaded foil with decent smack and have them get all enthusiastic and take in as much as they can at once, and im fairly certain it would be all over red rover.

hamilton is correct imo.

i was gona say the same thing.. with no tolerance/strong stuff, it's way possible to overdose from smoking it.. haven't any of yall heard of using more than needed? it's really easy to mistakenly use more of something than intended

 

[godsstreetsoldier]

i almost OD'd while smokin heroin

 

[lyXw33d]

I remember reading about how hard it is to od on fentanyl when you're smoking it (smoking it in small increments/bb-sized globs). Which is basically true, but I had my one and only fent w/d smoking it after railing my nightly ambien-- after which I lose a shitload of inhibition and seem to lose most sensitivity to the euphoric aspects of any high (i.e., i just get sleepy off opiates after this). I would imagine if somebody was high/drunk enough (or just like me, on the same 15mg's of ambien that I've been taking up the nose every night for many years), you could smoke too much dope and od. Just a theory, however, because I haven't gotten the chance to smoke dope yet (Newark dope is just too 'good' for that ).

 

[Bavanai]

Of course you can. I've never seen such moronic statements.

It is possible, but very unlikely with heroin alone and no other downers in your system.

Maybe the only way to OD from smoking is to have very pure stuff and take a huge rip that's more than you can handle. Otherwise I don't think you can OD from smoking the usual street tar. You'll just nod/pass out before anything dangerous happens.

 

[haribo1]

I spent 3 months looking for A SINGLE CASE of od due to opiate intoxication due to smoking diamorphine. It TOOK 3 months because i contacted 92 regional drug agencies.

I didn't find a SINGLE case.

Even with no tolerance, a bag will not provide a fatal dose (certainly not the crap in the US). Yes, smoked opiates have been INVOLVED in drug deaths, but they were never the sole cause. Fact is, 3 times as many people OD on methadone than on smack in the UK... thus we use Subutex more and more...


Oh, I did the research for Lifeline, a drug agency.

We GIVE foil out and say to users that it's much, much safer. If I'm wrong, then all the agencies in the UK are complicit...

 

[pinpoint]

^this guy knows his shit.

 

[haribo1]

Oh, I should add that fentanyl is more risky because it's slower acting then smack when smoked. I smoked 200ug and threw up/passed out and NEARLY pulled a blue, but friends were there.
The single biggest factor for fatal OD is taking drugs ALONE. The biggest factor in fatal OD is no assistance. Since it's usually breathing thats stopped, just forcing air in and out of the lungs will save the victim.
I say victim because users are victims of drug policy. If we could buy 100mg of pure freebase diamorphine from the store, then we wouldn't OD!
Last point, people tend to overdose more often when taking the drug in a place they are not familiar with. The exact reason for this isn't know, but it's a fact, I've lived it...

 

[lyXw33d]

^That's strange, because yeah, people tend to say smoking dope gives an instantaeneous high, one that hits you as quick or even quicker than iv (albeit without as nice a rush). Yet fentanyl is way more lipid-soluble that heroin and has a shorter half-life, making me think it should hit you quicker than dope (as it does when IV'ed). So what's the deal?

 

[100MillionYearTrip]

yes, you can its just VERY rare. but it can def. happen when drinking/other drugs, but it can happen with just H too... happened to this guy i know

 

[the_ketaman]

Whoever says you cant OD from smoking heroin is just kidding themselves and im sure it could happen to someone with no tolerance. Sure if you have a tolerance its probably pretty hard, but saying you cant od from smoking heroin is not harm reduction and im sure its happened before.

I think someone should do a search on this subject to see how many people have OD'ed(proper OD, not choking on spew) on H from smoking and post a link.

I am way too high and ive nodded out like 10 times while I wrote this post so im not doing it lol maybe later.

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ Perhaps you should have looked a few posts up.

I spent 3 months looking for A SINGLE CASE of od due to opiate intoxication due to smoking diamorphine. It TOOK 3 months because i contacted 92 regional drug agencies.

I didn't find a SINGLE case.

Even with no tolerance, a bag will not provide a fatal dose (certainly not the crap in the US). Yes, smoked opiates have been INVOLVED in drug deaths, but they were never the sole cause. Fact is, 3 times as many people OD on methadone than on smack in the UK... thus we use Subutex more and more...


Oh, I did the research for Lifeline, a drug agency.

We GIVE foil out and say to users that it's much, much safer. If I'm wrong, then all the agencies in the UK are complicit...

I trust haribo's word more than most any other bluelighter. He isn't speculating (like half the people in here), he has done research. I know thats hard to comprehend for some people, but it means he actually sought out answers to this question instead of just making a random guess, with no facts to back it up.

 

[pkt]

Whoever says you cant OD from smoking heroin is just kidding themselves and im sure it could happen to someone with no tolerance. Sure if you have a tolerance its probably pretty hard, but saying you cant od from smoking heroin is not harm reduction and im sure its happened before.

no.

If someone has no opiate tolerance and they sit down and smoke one bag after the other then they are going to start vomiting so much they wouldnt be able to smoke anymore.

I've smoked 5g's+ of decent afghan in a day and even though i had a tolerance you know i would have been dead had i sniffed or booted the shit, the fact is unless someone keeps blowing smoke down your throat after you've passed out your not going to die from smoking heroin.

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