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OC's .. did i take enough?

CataLysT^3

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the other night i recieved a present. my brother dropped by the house with an 80mg Oxycontin. we split it up, not too evenly, so i would guess i had about 60mg at most. now, i've heard everyone raving about the OC's, but i wasn't greatly impressed. did i not take enough? (i railed the OC, by the way) all input is greatly appreaciated.
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:CataLysT:
 
you railed 60mg of Oxy and weren't impressed???
Heroin addict...
 
but seriously, how do you guys get on about 60mg? i mean, i felt pretty much 'at peace,' but nothing too spectacular. to put things into perspective, i'm a relatively small chick, so i don't know what the deal is!
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:CataLysT:
 
I *AM* being serious...
Snorting 60mg of Oxy would put me on my ass and I'm 6"3/200 pounds...hell, 40mg would put me on my ass. And it's your first time? What kind of experience do you have with other narcotics?
Really, you should have puked your guts out and gotten fabulously high.
Oh yeah, are you sure it was an 80mg? Was the pill like a funky seawater blue color?
[This message has been edited by djtonedeaf (edited 22 June 2001).]
 
yeah, the pill was sorta bluish, OC on one side and 80 on the other. the blue peeled off quite nicely, i might add. as far as other narcotics go, i am pretty much a stimulant person. i like crystal meth the most b/c it is the only thing that truly merits a response from me, though i can suck up a gram of crystals like nobody's business. i like coke a lot as well, but i rip through it very fast, so it tends to get costly. i just don't understand it. for instance, i've watched people around me get totally wacked out smoking rock, yet i feel nothing. like the 60mg that didn't do much for me, the 20mg had my brother sitting pretty. (he's like 5'9 170 pounds, whereas i am 5' 120 pounds) am i abnormal, or what?
 
you should have been blown away, probably puking your guts out, having a hard time staying awake, and itching like crazy, 60mg of oxycodone for a first time narcotic user would probably kill them, narcotics depress your respiration, therefore if you weren't sitting there making yourself breath you would have probably fallen asleep and stopped breathing
 
Well, I guess you're not COMPLETELY abnormal. There's a possible explanation...
if you're a stimulant person maybe you were expecting something from the oxy that it will NEVER provide...a stimulant kind of high.
Opiate highs are much different, kind of just a warm, glazed-over feeling...but at 60mg you should feel at least a mild euphoria.
But I think your brain was looking for that dopa rush, and thus you were disappointed when all you felt was "peaceful." Don't give up, Catalyst! Try again! I was a stimulant person too, once. Actually, deep down in my heart of hearts I still am, but I save them now for special occasions because I find them harder on the mind/body. And I chase stimulant highs like a broke-down cumsucking dishrag whore.
Never chased an opiate high yet.
 
jesus man! i must be abnormal. i was itching like crazy, but i didn't puke, nor was i nauseated in the least. i guess i'll just have to bang it next time, eh?
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:CataLysT:
 
right on, djtonedeaf. your response has made me feel a bit better, so, i guess i'll go for the, "try everything atleast *twice* method" in this instance. i was condsidering picking up some for tonite, b/c i'm not up to a crazy night out on the town. i want to do it right this time, so what would you recommend? eating / not eating beforehand, railing it all at once, or gradually? *btw* thanks for all the help so far.
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:CataLysT:
 
Whatever you do don't go and rail 60mg all at once...I don't care if you didn't feel much the last time, this is just not safe.
Here's what you do. Peel and crush your tab. Divide it into 20mg doses, using a scale or even just by eyeballing. Rail the first 20mg. Wait 45 minutes to an hour. Rail the next 20mg. Wait another hour. Rail the next 20mg. If your still not feeling much after 60mg again, I would be very cautious titrating up at this point. Try another 10mg dose maybe, and don't go ANY higher than 80mg.
I know the onset is pretty quick with snorting, but giving yourself 45minutes to an hour between doses will you give a fuller picture of how the oxy is effecting you.
You should have *something* in your stomach before you sit down to do this, but don't go and eat a belly-buster right before.
Remember, just because 60mg didn't do much the last time, doesn't mean 20mg won't fuck you up but good this time...it could have been a fluke...so be careful, stay away from alcohol, enjoy the high for what it is, and you should have a splendid evening!
 
taken from the Oxycontin FAQ:
13) What are the effects?
To someone who has not used a strong narcotic, it will probably go something like this:
1. you snort the line very fast and suddenly realize that the taste isn't as pleasant as that yummy lemon ketamine you made..
2. you chug a huge glass of water to kill the sinus drain, you now fight to keep from puking at the simple taste..
3. you sit back and feel good .. your stomach feels a little uneasy ..
4. you puke..
5. you begin to itch..
6. you feel REALLY GOOD... nice and warm, all fuzzy, not a care in the world.. but you itch
7. you come back to earth and realize how pathetic life is without opioids
18) How much should I take to 'have fun'?
I am not going to actually give any exact numbers, because everyone is different .. my ex-gf needed at LEAST 40mg (snorted) to catch ANY buzz, while 20mg had me laying on the floor as happy as can be ... I would say start small - 10mg snorted to get a feel for the effects, then go up - but BE CAREFULL! give yourself time between doses to get used to it ..
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looks like yer more hardcore than PhreeX's exgirlfriend...but remember different drugs affect different people different ways...certain factors such as your metabolic rate might affect the way a drug affects you...
[This message has been edited by Good Corruption (edited 22 June 2001).]
 
I have had people who can take astonomical amounts of oxycodone without even feeling good, and im almost positive this person has a strange metabolism, i think he doenst metabolize oxycodone or the others very well and there for doesnt feel much, The solution for this is to take a metabolic enhancer, there are enzymes called cyp2d6 which are responsible for MANY drugs activity, and then therre are enzyme enducers which increase the rate it converts things, blockers that slow it down, and you use one or the other depending on how it gets metabolized, for instance codeine gets metabolized into morphine this way and owes all of its activity to the rate this happens, then you would use an inducer, and there are some such as glutethimide which cause most of it to convert to morphine.
The there are drugs that are destroyed by this metabolism and you want to block the enzyme so it lets the drug stay around to have activity, and in this case you can use something like grapefruit juice, or a few others and it will raises the activity a bit.
ONE NOTE - when you mess around with the systems responsible for this activity you SERIOUSLY run the risk of a huge overdose, i have almost done it as well, i have been using ketamine to remove the tollerance i have and when i use it after taking a normal tollerance amount it almost is way to much.
Just make sure you have the activity changed before you take the drug then you can step up your dose in 10-20mg increments, OH and 20mg should SERIOUSLY rock you once your body gets to using it correctly
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have fun
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~The Recreational Pharmacist
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SHIT!, I GOT TOTALLY HIGH OFF SNORTING 30MG, how big are you? i think it could be if you got small amounts of morphine for a long amount of time, you could have built up a tolerance. i am not completely sure though
 
damn, man. what i wouldn't give to be a lightweight! but hey, Good Corruption, i like the description, hardcore. i have yet to pick up some more of those puppies since there has been too much drama surrounding the guy that supplied last time, but as soon as i do come across them i will make sure to do the whole step-by-step method, thanks djtonedeaf. btw, TripDoc, i am a she not a he, and RunningMan in response to
How big are you?
i am, as i already stated, 5 feet tall & 120 pounds. have a nice day!
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:CataLysT:
 
CataLysT^3, give yourself a little time before you do it again. I don't understand how you didn't feel much.
My first time doing OC, I railed 20 mg. Then 10 more and 10 more. I sort of like it, the feeling was actually closer to ketamine than opiates. (That was just my experience) It took until about the 3rd or 4th time doing it before I started to like it.
I don't understand the puking thing, either. I've never thrown up from oxycontin. I've had a couple of nasty headaches the next day from doing too much, but I've never vomited.
 
headaches, eh? i had a massive headache the next day as well. hhhmmm. aren't they supposed to kill pain? (just common logic, i suppose?)
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:CataLysT:
 
HEADACHES ehh????i do suffer from sometimes, BADASS headaches the day after i use OXY...then i just crush up a tab and drink up, then feel all "nice" again..i didnt think the headaches were from OXY though...
u dont feel anything from 60 mg??DAMN,i weigh 230 pds, have been taking OXY for the past few months,on the weekends and i can still get fucked up on 10 mg crushed and DRANK....20 mg really does me in..this is weird as i have a buddy who LOVES getting DRUNK (i mean plastered) and yet i always talk to him about OPIATES..he is a STATE COP and is afraid of a drug test, so i had him take NUBAIN....he tok a large first dose, and CLAIMED he didnt feel it much..he grabbed his own bottle and after using it all up, he said the NUBAIn doesnt affet him much..this guy has NO tolerance to OPIATES either, so i was kinda surprised because almost EVERYONE i introduce OPIATES to LOVES them...
i guess some people are either looking for a more "potent" high, or a different "type" of high altogether..then again, i have heard of a "natural" OPIATE tolerance...
 
OxyContin -
I recomend 20mg snorted for a newbie, and you can work up from there... if you're not responsive, you can up the dose, but GIVE IT TIME! Don't rail a 20mg pill, then decide that it's not enough 5 minutes later... space yer doses - 20 minutes to be safe ...
Be carefull guys, this drug has done wonders for the chronic pain community but it CAN BE DEADLY WHEN ABUSED!
I am closing this as I don't want to see anymore responses from people advising the user keep upping the dose to a possibly fatal amount...
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