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GoreBore

GoreBore

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What's up BL. So I've been doing many forms of MDMA for about a year now, I always have a blast on it but the comedown is always terrible. It's been getting better but it's still a shitty couple hours. My question is, is it ok to take Oxy cotin for the comedown or does it make it feel any better?
 
I've taken vicodin in moderate amounts after rolling for the comedown, and I find opiates effect me in a slightly different way after rolling- I tend to get a little bit of anxiety from them, but it does level out and calm me down. As far as safety goes, I'm not aware of any likely risks or problems from taking oxy after MDMA, but I would erowid that one.

I found valerian root in higher amounts (the herbal sleeping pill) to help more than opiates, and it's a lot gentler on your system (and you can acquire it over the counter).

Also, how often do you roll? If you're not spacing it out enough, that can be a big culprit for bad comedowns. In general, you should wait a minimum of 30 days in between sessions.

Pre-loading with piracetam (you can order it online) REALLY has enhanced the fun parts of MDMA for me and diminishes the crappy after effects. A lot of people swear by 5-htp afterwards, and it's made the come down a lot gentler.
 
I would recommend a benzo over an opiate but either one would work I guess.
 
ur on the money
ive done some ills and oc at the same time not 2 mention a lil tina and the comedown was nonexistant young blood
 
Bsiren said:
I've taken vicodin in moderate amounts after rolling for the comedown, and I find opiates effect me in a slightly different way after rolling- I tend to get a little bit of anxiety from them, but it does level out and calm me down. As far as safety goes, I'm not aware of any likely risks or problems from taking oxy after MDMA, but I would erowid that one.

I found valerian root in higher amounts (the herbal sleeping pill) to help more than opiates, and it's a lot gentler on your system (and you can acquire it over the counter).

Also, how often do you roll? If you're not spacing it out enough, that can be a big culprit for bad comedowns. In general, you should wait a minimum of 30 days in between sessions.

Pre-loading with piracetam (you can order it online) REALLY has enhanced the fun parts of MDMA for me and diminishes the crappy after effects. A lot of people swear by 5-htp afterwards, and it's made the come down a lot gentler.
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I usually space out my rolls to at least 6 months, but I did it once this weekend and plan to over break because I don't want to during school. DOes the valerian root actually put you to sleep because that's the problem I've been having is not being able to sleep because of rapid heart rate, anxiety etc.
 
I'm double posting. I've also heard though that hydros are sometimes good on the comedown, any input?
 
Test your shit man, if you're feeling that bad that you need to take such a strong painkiller, the chemicals you're getting probably aren't MDMA...

I've never taken a bad pill in my life (well, by accident...) and I always feel fine, same with all of my friends, and everyone I've talked to that rolls.

It's usually the dirty pills that will make you be in pain or whatever...
Or, if you're not too active I don't suggest dancing the entire night... That will also make your body hurt A LOT... Make sure you take some time to relax, don't put too much stress on your body.
 
Benzos all the way if available help u relax sleep and get rid of the edgy feeling
 
Warped Reality said:
Test your shit man, if you're feeling that bad that you need to take such a strong painkiller, the chemicals you're getting probably aren't MDMA...

I've never taken a bad pill in my life (well, by accident...) and I always feel fine, same with all of my friends, and everyone I've talked to that rolls.

It's usually the dirty pills that will make you be in pain or whatever...
Or, if you're not too active I don't suggest dancing the entire night... That will also make your body hurt A LOT... Make sure you take some time to relax, don't put too much stress on your body.
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He said he's takling mdma for years and has always had bad aftereffects, somehow i doubt he's always taking bad pills. All the good advice has already been said in this thread. Dont have any personally used solutions though, fortunately i never feel bad postroll. I only feel a very slight depression.
 
Warped: Clean MDMA is not a come-down free chemical, it's quite powerful. Come-downs are not just the result of adulterants, but certainly piperazine and meth have a worse comedown than MDMA.


OP: Valerian does help me sleep, but again, I typically double the dose. Apparently it has similar effects to some benzos, here's the wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerian_(herb)
I use it when I can't sleep (2-3x a week), and it's gentle, but I wake up on time the next day without feeling hung over like I find other sleeping pills do. Sounds like you're being responsible with your usage of MDMA, I'd get some piracetam for before-hand as a neuroprotectant, and 5-htp afterwards.
 
Watch the valerian I know it helps some people but for others it can have effects that are exactly opposite the intended feeling such as quickened heart beat and minor shaking happens more if you take a lot. Eat benzos or smoke weed or just wait till your down all the way and go to sleep if its real mdma you will baseline eventually.
 
honestly, id love to be able to take some opiates when coming down from a roll but im a former heroin addict so i try to avoid that shit now.. but i think opiates are perfect for all sorts of come downs, not just mdma.

so, personally, i take 1000mg of vitamin c, 5-10mg of melatonin, 250mg of 5-htp, and a lot of water when coming down from mdma.. this combination helps me out A LOT, not only with the initial crash but it makes the next day seem a lot more manageable too.

and as suggested by bsiren ;) i've been taking piracetam for my last few rolls.. not only does it intensify the roll, i find it levels off the come down quite a bit as well.
 
Bsiren said:
Warped: Clean MDMA is not a come-down free chemical, it's quite powerful. Come-downs are not just the result of adulterants, but certainly piperazine and meth have a worse comedown than MDMA.


OP: Valerian does help me sleep, but again, I typically double the dose. Apparently it has similar effects to some benzos, here's the wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerian_(herb)
I use it when I can't sleep (2-3x a week), and it's gentle, but I wake up on time the next day without feeling hung over like I find other sleeping pills do. Sounds like you're being responsible with your usage of MDMA, I'd get some piracetam for before-hand as a neuroprotectant, and 5-htp afterwards.
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Piperazine comedowns are horrible, the short "peak" which consisted of over stimulation and no euphoria go to you feeling tired and shit for the next six plus hours. Woohoo!
 
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