NY dope thread because why not

[Tommyboy]

So they're not actually grams? I'm assuming your dealer just calls 'em that and it's just assumed that the customer knows he's just getting what he normally would in a bundle without it being bagged into individuals.

Correct. I kinda figured they weren't grams and were just the amount he would normally put in a bundle since the price was the same as a bundle, and he called it a "full one" instead of a gram. When I put my friend onto this dealer I forgot to tell him that they probably weren't really grams, and were just the amount in a bundle, and this was confirmed by the dealer when my boy weighed it out and asked why it was 0.6 and not 1.0, and he was told that it was because he was selling the amount of dope he would normally bag up in a bundle.

The whole original "point" of stamp bags with word or a symbol was that you had an idea of what the dope was supposed to be......Once it switched to "wholes and halfs" in NE, the quality seemed to have gone down a little bit, but the quantity went up....If you had a really prevalent stamp, it was probably being all bagged at once and then given to smaller dealers in bricks and bundles....It's a lot more of pain in the ass to open up and fuck with stamp bags, so there's usually less "monkey business" that goes on with the lower level dealers stepping on it....

with the grams, you usually have no idea what you're getting.....and like you said, it's not even an actual gram most of the time....I got used to the whole thing, and for me, I just considered a "half" a decent shot, like a 5 bagger....Of course, it is sometimes really strong and that would be more than you should probably do all at once....which is why it's dangerous when you start getting a tolerance, you get so used to the purity falling in a certain range, you stop bothering with test shots after awhile....I start getting cynical about the whole thing....My friend will be like, "Should I do a small one to see how good this is?" And I'm like, "You can, but I'm not gonna bother...the day this guy gives me dope strong enough to kill me is the day hell freezes over!"...but you should always do testers...

I'm assuming that some dealers in NY are starting to sell these "wholes" instead of stamps since there is no longer any open air scenes where you would seek out a specific stamp that you heard / found out was good. Stamps still serve a purpose, but it's more for knowing if the batch your dealer has is the same or not. If he's got a stamp you don't like then you avoid him until he says he has a new stamp, then you give that a try.

Most dealers seem to have a certain potency of dope that they always get. Like my Queens dealer has had the same stamp the whole 9 months or so that I have been dealing with him, and the quality has been the same the whole time.

Then I had a backup dealer that always had decent dope, so was a solid backup when the other dealer wasn't around or we didn't feel like making the trip to the city. He had blank stamp bags that would be one color for 4 months, then a different color for 4 months, etc. The dope was always basically the same quality though since his source was the same, but would switch up the color of the stamp bags like 4x a year for whatever reason. He ended up getting locked up and now my current local backup (actually my #3 dealer) has different stamps pretty frequently, but no matter the stamp it's usually always around the same potency, which is unfortunately on the low side, but not that bad.

Now my guy with the 'whole' chunks of dope (now my first backup) has had the same quality stuff since around November when he started getting good stuff (not quite fire, but above average), but before then each batch was pretty different, both in quality and appearance, and was never that good. Then one day I opened up the bag and immediately smelt that vinegary smell, and noticed the powder was lighter than usual. I decided to do 1/3 of the amount I would normally do, and was actually skyping with my friend at the time so told her my address and to call 911 with it if I hit the floor after doing the shot. I just got really high from it, and that was with doing 1/3 of my usual dose, so I called him up to tell his customers to be careful with it and to do less than normal of it.

So my connects are pretty much ranked among my using buddies, so stamps don't really play a role in it since time has shown that one dealer just about always has the best stuff, then the first backup usually has the second best dope, and backup #2 is really just there for when the other two aren't around since his stuff is average at best.

 

[hubs3]

New here but not new to BL as I've read many posts for years--now back in NYC after many years away. After many months clean I figured I'd see what was up with h. now back here. Three different dealers all recommended. First dealer: stamped 10 bag bun of white dope 2/10 at best from Bed-Sty--seemed to be morph. cut with act. Second dealer: same story-different stamp from East NY. Third dealer: sort of an off-white that was maybe a 3-4/10 from Bushwick with no stamp. I think its the same as the "gray" stuff that is discussed in the D. thread.

In all cases the packaging was the same: white folded bags of paper with opening on both sides but heat sealed at bottom. Count was exactly the same. No way Bun.=Gram. All very fine powder with no need to chop up. Now the three areas I mention are notorious for good dope. I should be addicted by now. Not even close. Do take a day or two a week off. Prices were the same and fair. Connects were all users and beyond reproach. My vocation is highly legit but rife with all forms of drugs so good connects are very easy to make anywhere. I asked all three what happened to #2 brown dope that was all over NYC some years past that you most certainly had to chop and always gave off that aroma that good #2 always did. All of this stuff seems like pharm. stuff although in all three cases I was told this is how street dope is these days. All three connects knew what I was talking about with the old #2 but said they had not seen it for years. Is this NY dope some "new age" stuff that's meant for rec. drug users so they don't get sick or pick up a habit? I read a lot of other posts like mine here. What gives? Good thing one of the connects also sells sealed 'done. At least I can get a buzz off of that. Can't believe that 'done is better than NYC street dope?

Thank you, and hope I have not broken rules as this is my first post. Comments appreciated.

 

[BlueHues]

^I'm not from NY....I'm from New england....Providence RI to be exact and I think truly good dope takes a little more work to find these days.....when I started is was hard to find bad dope....but I think you just got unlucky and need to look around more....It's NYC, the dopes there!

Edit: I'll add....I don't know when you first started using dope, or exactly what quality you expect....I can say for myself, it's not very often that I come across dope that by weight matches up to a lot of the dope I used to get in the late '90, but it's a lot cheaper, and I just do bigger shots!....So, I've pretty much adjusted to the drop and don't really notice a difference! There is dope out there that seems to get me well, but doesn't get me high no matter how much I seem to do! It doesn't really make sense, because even %5 pure dope will eventually get you high if you do enough! Unless there's some other opiate being sold as dope that just WONT get you high, which at times, I actually wonder if that's the case!

For me, if I get %30 percent dope but I get twice as much as I used to pay for %60 pure dope, it all equals out....as long as the price matches the quality and I get high, I don't so much care....Sure, I'd rather have less cut in my dope, but I can deal with it as long as it's a fair price for what it is.

 

[hubs3]

Dealer #1: Now busted.

Dealer #2: a 65 year old man who I did not want to put in harms way do to age so I cut him off and the dope was bad anyways.

Dealer #3: A street smart younger person who is highly responsible and knows the score.

Moral of this post: watch who you by from and keep your eyes open--way wide. But you all know this point already. But it never hurts to see it and hear it again. One thing has not changed in the years away from NYC. Being involved with dope here is a very sketchy proposition at best. Guess being new to the NYC scene; and being somewhat spoiled with the lack of issue with dope and the whole drug culture was not as dangerous as NY. Although it was no walk in the park. But as the saying goes, Only in New York. Be safe.

 

[BlueHues]

^The dope game is all about who you know....having that one great connect! Sure you know that!

In my long and storied heroin career, I've a had a few really great dope guys who were safe to deal with and had consistently top-notch product...Unfortunately, most of the time I've had to scramble and run my ass off to find the good shit!

 

[hubs3]

^I'm not from NY....I'm from New england....Providence RI to be exact and I think truly good dope takes a little more work to find these days.....when I started is was hard to find bad dope....but I think you just got unlucky and need to look around more....It's NYC, the dopes there!

Edit: I'll add....I don't know when you first started using dope, or exactly what quality you expect....I can say for myself, it's not very often that I come across dope that by weight matches up to a lot of the dope I used to get in the late '90, but it's a lot cheaper, and I just do bigger shots!....So, I've pretty much adjusted to the drop and don't really notice a difference! There is dope out there that seems to get me well, but doesn't get me high no matter how much I seem to do! It doesn't really make sense, because even %5 pure dope will eventually get you high if you do enough! Unless there's some other opiate being sold as dope that just WONT get you high, which at times, I actually wonder if that's the case!

For me, if I get %30 percent dope but I get twice as much as I used to pay for %60 pure dope, it all equals out....as long as the price matches the quality and I get high, I don't so much care....Sure, I'd rather have less cut in my dope, but I can deal with it as long as it's a fair price for what it is.

Thank you for your response. I've been around the block and the world for years in the dope game. I guess my former locations spoiled me as i do have very high expectations. As i mentioned, I'm always able to get the best due to my vocation and the locations were all the so-called "fire" locations years past. I suspect there are many younger ppl than I here who never tasted a lot of things from all 3 axis points (I guess 4 now with Mexico in the equation.) As i mentioned, I had been completely clean for months--I should have gotton at least a little sick based on the amount I did. And I should certainly have somewhat of a very small habit given what I've done over the last couple of months. To be truthful, none of the stuff even looked like dope, but again, I've been gone a long time and people in the know here tell me things aren't what they used to be quality/count wise. Price is unchanged. And reading some of the posts above seem to confirm what i am saying.

I do thank you for your reply, and please be careful. Dangerous game we all play with this stuff. Anywhere. And on a lot of different fronts. But you know the score (pardon the pun,) you don't need me to tell you. But as I said, it never hurts to see in print to be careful. And that goes for me as well.

 

[BlueHues]

I remember when I started at 19-20 yrs old....I had no idea what I was gettin myself into! and coppin dope is a hard learned skill to acquire! I remember the old dudes....when I first started....they always knew where the good shit was! And theyd hook me up if I threw em a few bags, but it was worth it! Man, those guys just knew how to work the streets and find the good shit, it impressed the shit out of me as a kid! Of course, a lot of those dudes are dead or locked up for whatever reason now....on methadone....or 65+ still on dope!

Those guys used to say to me, "I've spilled more dope than you've done kid! Quit now, you're not cut out for this life!"....Ha, it pissed me off, but they were right!!

It's not so much about all the spots and the street shit anymore.....it's about gettin the right phone number, and it's not easy! The good dopes still out there though....different game...that crazy open air shit where you're approached by 20 guys at the same time shovin bags in your face is over in most places!

 

[Swain]

I've seen 5 dollar amounts of crack come in the container to the left before, like the exact color and everything.

and I used to get weed in jars like the one on the right, they had a butterfly on the lid lol

yup thats about right here in jersey city if you get a clip of it. mostly its powder coke though. I pay a few bucks more but i get em deliverd. even the crackheads just buy the podered coke and cook em up because its fire as fuck. I only shoot 2 vials when i wanna have a near death experience lol


Also, yeah forgot who but you were talking about the dope you were getting, and it being like grey and shitty. Beleive me, thats just some bullshit dope. NYC has fire ass stamps available,. and etc. like tommyboys talkin about. Right now hellboy is fire most wanted fire law and order fire. a lot of the coke around is so fire it pops your dick right off.

 

['medicine cabinet']

Edit----that was for shimuzs post, the little purple vial btw....


thats what 20's of raw dope come in in Baltimore, they have a multitude of caps but they are the exact same things. they sell them as exotic oil and perfume samples. sometimes there is a butterfly on the glass. thats funny you had that pic. crazk also can come in vials like that, lot of miniziplock bags too or whatever was handy. there are vials that are double the length of yours, skinnyer than yours and longer, there is a ton of different ones, those are the best tho except for the 40 vials. thats the bomb.

 

[shimazu]

dude I've seen those purple vials more than I'd care to. Seems like anyone who is pushing dope also pushes crack and will try to get you to buy that instead.

One time I was supposed to get a bundle and the guy only had 8 bags left and he's like "I'll throw in four of these too for the same price" and pulls his hand out of his pocket and slightly un-cups it and I already knew it was gonna be crack but I looked anyway and yeah, it was four of those vials.

Then you have to say "nah I'm good" and they get all salty like you just scuffed their sneakers or something and the whole mood just gets awkward. Well, they might not be offended really but they certainly aren't happy you won't buy crack off them.

I was like "I'll give you 60 bucks but I can't spend any money on crack or my friend would get pissed."

and he was just like yeah whatever I'm going to get something to eat anyway (I guess since he had no bags left) and that was that.

Every time I see crack I just think of Tyrone Biggums voice when he's like "I want some crack!" and laugh while imagining him flush himself down the toilet

 

[PantyRaid]

^fuck you scagnattie, you probably did a shot of dope today!

the color of the dope in that rig is just.....priceless! it's the exact color that haunts my dreams!

What, like this?

On a side note, good god do i need some new rigs :/

NSFW:

and I used to get weed in jars like the one on the right, they had a butterfly on the lid lol

One time my regular dope connect had his stuff in purple baggies with little dolphins on them.

I almost peed myself laughing

 

[RedLeader]

^ The strongest H I have ever done in my life was in little tiny purple zip bags with dolphins on them. Summer '10 in Baltimore. Rock hard "raw." A twenty of those up the nose, even with a tolerance, had me absolutely destroyed.

 

[PantyRaid]

^ thats funny that might have actually been the same stuff, my guys stuff usually comes in through baltimore and thats around when it was although his are half gs

 

[BlueHues]

@pantyraid, Yeah that's basically the color.....way back when, I held the belief that the best dope came back extremely dark, but that's about the color I think of!

As far as fentanyl being prescribed to only the terminally ill.....IME, they give fentanyl patches to different people for different reasons and most of the people I knew that had them were prescribed them for a bad back, shoulder surgery, stuff like that....

Never had the lollipos, but like Tommyboy said, they give those to a lot of different people, not just little kids....

I will say that, it seems like the lollipops are more reserved for "terminally ill" type patients than for people with other chronic pain issues, maybe becasuse they're IR(I think).....the fentanyl patches when used as prescribed don't really seem to get many people with an opiate tolerance all that high! That's the most common way to see "fentanyl" though...

I believe that the fentanyl that's in the patches is a very short-acting fentanyl analogue that only lasts 15 minutes or so, the patches release a steady amount into the bloodstream over the course of a few days....I think the lollipops are a different fentanyl analogue, pretty much a different drug....I could be wrong, but thats been my understanding...There's a bunch of "different fentanyls".....the kind that gets sold as dope lasts agood few hours, not as long as heroin does as far as the high goes, and it doesn't keep you well for as long either....

If I use enough heroin, it will keep me well for around a whole day, 20-24 hours.....for some people it's significantly less....24+ hours is when I really start hitting the "sick where I can't function" level!

 

[Tommyboy]

I will say that, it seems like the lollipops are more reserved for "terminally ill" type patients than for people with other chronic pain issues, maybe becasuse they're IR(I think).....the fentanyl patches when used as prescribed don't really seem to get many people with an opiate tolerance all that high! That's the most common way to see "fentanyl" though...

Personally I have come across the lollipops a lot more times than the patches, but the general consensus here on Bluelight seems to be that the patches are more common, with most people having never come across the lollipops. I have only come across the patches once, and they belonged to a woman that died of cancer so obviously didn't need them anymore.
My friend had just lucked out since he was at his girlfriends house after her mother died, and they asked him to get rid of all the drugs since the dead woman's son was a recovering addict and they didn't want him to be around all those drugs at a time like that.

 

[BlueHues]

^Who really know, I never much kept track of the prescription opiate scene because I much prefer heroin! I do know somebody who OD'd from the patches..They didn't think they were getting high from one patch so they slapped on a second one, went to sleep and ODd in their sleep....so, I know it's a potent drug that should be respected in all it's forms....I do think the lollipops are more desirable recreationally though....they may even be safer, because they're designed to be taken orally....a lot of the people who abuse the fentanyl patches end up ODing because extracting the fentanyl from them is not all that safe!

It's one the un-intended consequences of formulating drugs that are "abuse-proof"!

 

[Tommyboy]

^ Yea the patches are more dangerous for several reasons. If you nod out with the patch on you are still getting more of the drug delivered to your system, so good luck coming out of that nod alive. And then there are the people who abuse the patches by breaking them open and either chewing on them, smoking them, and I think some people even IV the gel somehow. It's so dangerous that way since it's really hard to figure out the proper dosage to take since it's some complicated-ass math converting the dose from micrograms an hour to the amount you are getting instantly, plus figuring how much is in that amount of gel in the part of the patch you are taking.

With the lollipops they are designed to be instant release, so as long as you know your tolerance and aren't combining it with other CNS depressants you should be alright. If you nod out with the lollipop in your mouth hopefully it will fall out of your mouth or you will drool out the fentanyl fast enough for it not to be absorbed, but even if you don't you still have a better chance of surviving than the person nodding while chewing on the patch since they are getting 3 days worth of fentanyl at once compared to a few hours worth. And even if you keep the patch intact and put it on you the proper way it's still 3 days worth of the drug so it's not like it's going to wear off in time for you to regain consciousness.

The only safe thing that fentanyl has going for it is its extremely short half-life. Some people are able to overdose but then have enough of the drug wear off quickly enough for them to regain consciousness before it's too late. I've read a bunch of peoples posts saying how they put a tiny dot of gel from the fent patch on foil to smoke, took a hit, then woke up on the floor 15 minutes later feeling like shit from the lack of oxygen. I'm pretty sure some of them were idiots and took another hit after coming to, then fell out again then regained consciousness again. Not my idea of a good high.

 

[chefman]

Never did any lipops,did a patch once and it didnt do shit to me,but suppose my tolletence was too high.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Meeting my ex chic soon at one of our old stomping ground in the village... not going to be fun to have to walk those same blocks and see those same people.

Sometimes I hate NYC.

 

[BlueHues]

^Are you still sticking it out?