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Now I'm fearing tripping.. Please help... really :( !

It takes a while, relax, ignore captain negative, and as I say, go out for a walk. I've been to sweden a few times and you have some really beautiful snowscapes, I can only imagine looking at a snowflake while tripping!
 
weedandecstasy said:
2c-e won't make you feel like your heart rate is elevated, in fact, it calmed me the fuck down. so, you'll be good :)
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I wouldn't say that. Weed gives people elevated heartrates.

Don't worry about your heart rate unless theres an apparent reason to be worried. Like if you were in pain or had trouble breathing. Go for a run and see how much your heart can handle. When you stress over things like heart rate it just leads to a panic attack which only makes it worse.
 
It takes decades of hardcore methamphetamine abuse to actually do enough damage to the cardiovascular system to kill someone. I wouldn't worry about the slightly elevated heart rate and/or blood pressure due to the occasional psychedelic trip.
 
If you take a lot of pure MDMA and havn't eaten, drunk enough water and slept enough. You can mess up, give yourself serotine toxicity and possibly die from it. Which is what I'd imagine that guy did, problem with MDMA is when it's over you want it to last forever. Some downers should help with that and let you node of easily.
 
Kishka said:
Here's some questions, I need reassurance !!

1) Since I only use Research Chemicals, I want to know if it's possible that the chemical ITSELF can induce very high heart rate or dangerous blood pressure EVEN if you feel calm the whole time ? So what I mean is : Let's say I took 2C-E and that it's elevating my heart-rate very high only due to the 2C-E chemical properties. It is possible that a chemical can do that even if my mind feel calm during the trip ? So that's can mean I can die.

2) Is that true that panic attacks induces heart-attack ??

3) If I take recommended dose based on Erowid.org (Not too strong, not too mild). It is still possible to have worrying health effects ?

4) My main worry now like I took let's say 2C-D or maybe 2C-E with common doses and then out of nowhere my heart or blood pressure start to going crazy or rise the fuck up and have some health troubles that need medical intervention...

I asked these questions cause I heard that 2C-X act somewhat on the way that MDMA did, so I thing they may share properties.

What do you think ? :(
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A: 1) YES, 2) MAYBE, 3)YES, 4)MAYBE. Always remember that when you mess with RC's you are entering new and potentially dangerous frontiers. I don't think it's worth the risk when there are plenty of tried and true substances that have much better effects IMHO. But it's your life. Who am I to tell you not to play Russian Roulet? Load the chamber. Spin the cylinder. Pull the trigger. It will be your brains on the wall, not mine.
 
Wow that sounds like something taken out of a propaganda movie. PEOPLE WHO TAKE DRUGS ARE PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULET OMFG HAX0R!!11
 
^right? HA! why would you say that to a person who is anxious and new to tripping but enjoys it? theres another guy giving her s hard time on the previous page. its not like shes going balls to the wall or anything she's being careful, talking about 8mg. its like some ppl get their jollies out of scaring ppl..idk..bah

@kishka: dont worry, youre not being annoying. youll sonn become comfy w yourself as you learn more and more confident in your further explorations..

good luck on your 8mg experience. you'll be just fine. dont forget you have your xanax, in case you need a parachute :D let us know
 
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Often times people are usually worried about the health of their brains without giving fair consideration to the heart.

The first time I dosed 2c-e and the come-up was upon me, the shear extremity of the visual hallucinations caused a massive blood pressure spike which left me gasping for air. The increase in heartbeat rate left me in an uncomfortable state where it was difficult to relax myself. The hallucinations from 2c-e can be quite overwhelming. I calmed down eventually but initially the magnitude of the spacial distortions dazed and jarred me into an anxious state.
 
HOLYSHIT GUYS ! H-O-L-Y-S-H-I-T !! 8o This drug was NOT JOKE AT ALL ! It was the most intense things I've done, much more intense than my encounters with these strange blotters. The 8 mg of 2C-E literally floored me by the intensity ! THIS IS THE SHIT =D I'm so ashamed that I didn't discover this substance before, it was the most rewarding drugs I've done since I'm born ! This drug is NOT FOR PARTY AT ALL ! 2C-C and 2C-D can be taken in party because they are fun and mental-lacking but the 2C-E hit you like bricks x_x

But guys, this drug is SO FUCKING POWERFUL ! 8 mg just KICK MY ASS. It took a while to actually kick. I feel the first effects at +1h15. The first sensation was a tingling in my hand, then I decided to take a piss and when I returned in my living room, everything was weird ! The hallucinations start to kick, the first few hours was OK to handle, but then out of nowhere I began to lost all track of time. I was completely lost in my thoughts. I was lying in my sofa the whole time. I never seen hallucinations / distortions like that, sincerly it's IMPOSSIBLE to describe but to give you an idea, the 8 mg of 2C-E was A WAY STRONGER than my 75 mg 2C-C ! I still shocked by what happens yesterday. I was in my sofa, lying smoking cigarettes and the smoke was changing colour, it was shifting to purple then blue, then green ! I cry of joy because everything was so beautiful. I got a strong euphoria and I started to cry because I was alone in my appartment, I need someone with me to hug. I was crying due to the euphoria! It was the most beautiful feeling I ever felt and it come from my heart.

2C-E was REALLY mental ! Very mindfuck and like to play tricks on you. I tried to stay calm the whole time but sometimes the magnitude of the hallucinations were almost too strong to handle. This substance make me more aware of myself. I need to change some habits and I need to take care of myself more than I did for the others. It shows me that I was not really taking care of myself because I was worrying too much for others people. That's why I have anxiety. It knows my fears, it knows my secrets. I'm happy that the 2C-E let me have the possibilities to change these things.

I really need to take care of myself before the other. I need to stop worrying for the other people because that's make me sad. I need to think about me, about my future, I need to accept myself and to love my inner being and who I am.

It was a very rewarding experience, sometimes beautiful, sometimes intriguing, sometimes scary but it shows me who I am really inside of me.

I don't regret to have taken 2C-E but It was very very strong both visually and mentally.

The bodyload was OK to handle, I don't have any nausea, no vomiting. My hands were a bit shaky, I couldn't know If I was too hot or too cold, my heart-beat was beating faster when I was a bit afraid because of the intensity but the more I noticed, the faster it was beating so I ignore it and it was ok.

This experiences last 10 hours. In the morning I though I was having minor visuals on the wall but it's maybe due to sleep deprivation.

I really amazed about the power of this drugs, and I'm very surprised because the 2C-E IS 4 YEARS OLD !! I just think that It should be degraded or something ! Oh boys I was wrong O_o

My friend is deep into the RC scene so I have 1 gram of each 2C-X (including the 2C-B and 2C-T-x). I have a huge stock of them and they are 6 months old to 4 years old and they are definately still active !

These things last decades !!

Take care cause 2C-E IS THE SHIT !!

sorry for my english <3
 
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Im intrested how was your trip. Hey what about making a promis? Dont do it again okay I know what it feels like to crave a drug and it really isent funny once you crave it... just dont do it again... okay

But still tell us about your trip please :)
 
lars90 said:
Im intrested how was your trip. Hey what about making a promis? Dont do it again okay I know what it feels like to crave a drug and it really isent funny once you crave it... just dont do it again... okay

But still tell us about your trip please :)
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That fine but very strong.. And don't worry it's very hard to have a craving about hallucinogens. It feel not dangerous on the body.
 
hey kishka how was the trip tell us some more details what did you see? what happend and Im gonna make you promise to not try it again before your mind craves it .... I dont want you ending like me even though I hardly know you lol :D
 
^ Um, why are you trying to get her to "promise" not to take it again? Whether or not she decides to use 2C-E again is entirely up to her.
 
Yeah that dude trippin all over here lols
Worse than me.

Take drugs, be happy.

I could totally understand Kiska when she says this:
I cry of joy because everything was so beautiful. I got a strong euphoria and I started to cry because I was alone in my appartment, I need someone with me to hug. I was crying due to the euphoria! It was the most beautiful feeling I ever felt and it come from my heart.
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We understand you girl, we are happy for you. hehe

I've cried while feeling euphoric before.
It's weird. haha
cleansing.

ENjoy and be safe and don't let anyone tell you responsible hallucinogens are bad.
Free your mind.
 
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Kishka said:
That fine but very strong.. And don't worry it's very hard to have a craving about hallucinogens. It feel not dangerous on the body.
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wow that sunds pretty intence :O. If Imay ask what subtance is it where did you get it from or in what is it realy used for Id like to know a little it aout that sinse it sounds pretty mind blowing.
 
To me, 2c-e lost its magic after a few times. Seemed like the "same ol same ol" every time I dosed. The first two experiences were my best, and then the trips began getting predictable and limited. It seems deep, but it's not. Good memories though.
 
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