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Opioids Not sure at all, and certainly not smart but question if this makes sense.

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TyLannister

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Hi all,
New here, first off i dunno all these crazy rules of whats cool or uncool to say or bring up if this is not the place please forgive me. Id like to start off by saying i used to mess with opis alot (several injuries being a somewhat well known fball player, not that matters in the least i just want to spread awareness that these powerful substances dont stereotype to anyone thats for certain).

Anyway, like my title of my post says, i do not do anything much anymore for recreation, however ive read alot about you guys talking about the new opanas, to turn this into a harm reduction question, i suppose ill just say does this make sense and/or is it safe.

Now that that is out of the way, i will mention what my friends have been doing, (note: dont know a damn thing about it, but if someone with much more knowledge than me, may be able to figure out what/how the hell theyre doing this, if its safe, and finally if it even makes sense)

So....heres what they say works like a charm: without knowing jackshit im just going to list materials they use and the method. Apparently, one of the many brands of e-cigarettes hold the key to getting the stuff out. They claim with turning it into even a gelly type substance plus some water, that they then use a needle small enough to refill the e cig cartridge through the small trapdoor tiny little hole in the cartridge, meaning goes in fine but dont drip out.(normally it would be nicotine water or watev). From there, they claim that although trying to smoke the stuff with fire or heat, the mechanism of how the e cigs work basically by vaporizing (again who the fuck knows).

Anyway, like i said this could be complete and utter bullshit and the only reasons i posted are
1) Does this make any sense what so ever?
2) I would think even if it were, itd be very unsafe, so some of the smart people on here can help make that determination.
3) I see people on here going apeshit about them, so even if its a pipe dream it can fill their minds with a little method that very well could be bullshit, however might give them a little curiousity for ten or so minutes ;).

Anywho, thats about it, im not claiming its possible in the slightest i just wanted to see and hear anything on this from some of the experts. You sure all seem like a great group of people, what a brilliant community this is, as a now business man my head is just spinning with ideas on how i see this website becoming a massive (and lucrative) website model, with all the Problems people have these days, i really do see it becoming a facebook for those that need help or just wanna engage in conversation.

In closing, and i said this in my intro post, id like to commend all of you who said enoughs enough, and did something to better themselves. I also respect all of you still in that hole n just wanna say ANY of you can do it. It may sound meat headish, however what worked for me were four little words "Harden the fuck up". If ya got famiy call em, i know its hard but nip it in the butt early, the only other option is be drug fucked for the rest of your life. I know some may be, and some may not like the what i call "macho approach" but i dont care if your 98 lbs, look in the mirror and just tell yourself "im a bad motha fucker, ive been thru some shit, its time to toughen up and stop this insanity". Day by day, tell yourself n get a cd that jacks you up and go start working out. Go to a GNC or vitamin shoppe, and use the drug money to set yourself up with the essentials (pm me if you wanna know what they are) on top of the natural high you get from working out, as well as the confidence, buying the essential workout stuff also helps with the addiction of "just needin something" to take, if ya really want it and give those ideas a try i promise youll trade one addiction for another, only this addiction you can have for life (plus chicks dig it).

This is a mix post and who knows what forum it belongs in, again im new so my apologies.
Keep on rockin, and remember, keep it simple, HARDEN THE FUCK UP! By keepin it simple, i mean truly think how silly it is, im using something for a hour little high that essentially controls yourlife. Get a gym membership and a routine, ROUTINE is key! Busy yourself in the day, instead of drugs make a piece of paper with your supplements n what times to take them, get a job or anything that gets ur butt up in the a.m. Then go do a routine at the gym, keepin busys huge. What helped me was after work, id go to gym, cardio/lift, and after grab a water n protein shake, your endorphins will make ya feel better, and then instead of takin a drug for chillin after, hit the hot tub, sauna, and steam room, it does alot. By doing all of that, it will give you confidence (a high better than drugs by bumpin your music on the way home thinkin im the man! N chicks dig me) Possibly more importantly, by all the time it took to do all that its already 8! Get home, shower your new pumped up self, watch your fav show, n then get to bed at decent hour, n boom you just filled your day, and overtime that routine will become your new addiction, layin in bed thinkin cant wait to go up there tommorow again, instead of "cant wait to get high in the a.m.".

Sorry for the long post, and the first part of it was just a total curiousity thing, to see if those nerds make any sense at all.

Thank you to all of you guys, for hours of entertainment as well as the loads of knowledge i learn here for not only drugs, but life in general.

Good luck to all of you, you all deserve so darn much more than drugs and the anxiety and depression that come with it. If any of you are not into the whole gym thing, i have LOADS of things that are a riot to do.


Thanks again,
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Welcome to Bluelight :) My recommendations would be to read the rules (they are really not that "crazy" and they explain what type of posts are appropriate for each forum); try to keep your posts shorter and more to the point, as a lot of people don't bother reading the really long ones; and try to pick a subject line for your thread that describes the question - in this case "Can Opanas be safely and effectively smoked using an e-cigarette?" and if you want to talk about how you are doing in your recovery and your advice to others maybe make a separate post in the Dark Side forum or as a blog entry.

As to your question:

I know a lot about e-cigarettes but I do not know a lot about using one to vaporize oxymorphone (Opana) pills. My first concern would be that smoking or vaporizing Opana is any way is not very safe, and of course there are the usual risks of overdose, addiction etc. My second concern would be that it wouldn't work very well. For example, many people say that smoking Opanas is not an especially effective route of administration, also you would have to properly filter the pills before putting them inside the e-cigarette cartridge to remove the inactive ingredients and pill particles or it would easily clog, plus the inactive ingredients would be going into your lungs, and it's also possible that putting the pills in water might not be ideal and could potentially lead to the solution quickly drying out or burning in the e-cig, since the solution that is made for e-cigs uses propylene glycol and not water.
 
I totally figured, i was just super curious and got exactly the answer from someone much smarter than I. Sorry bout the length of post, and i appreciate it!
 
This would be an example of me being a dick. In which I used sarcasm to create a topic that was right in there with all the "So do i crush it before i put it in my rear?" To show how funny/dumb some questions can be.

That being said? Yep I am kind of a dick/asshole
 
Well, I'm not really suppose to tell u how to "do" it. But, the new formula must be dissolved. The good stuff is water soluable. So you drop ur dosage in agua. Wait 12-24hrs. I make 5 doses at a time. I hade a made comfortable rig out of an oral syringe, a rubber spacer and an enema tip- and I lube & insert the tip and release the slimy liquid. I lay on my side 20 min...Read a magazine. And I'm done. Best part is it doesn't mess with my sensitive stomach because the new pills are terrible difficult to dissolve. It also lasts longer so my medicine lasts long. But that was taken away. Only draw back is you NEED to do this at home and be super clean. Obviously.
 
agree with the exercise thing, I've always been a firm believer that natural endorphin release can feel just as good as narcotic-induced, mostly because of the fact that you KNOW you achieved the "high" on your own, the RIGHT way, the way your body was designed to, and it makes you feel better, not just chemically but overall, as a person...if that makes sense. I've had periods where I'll work out hard core for 3-6 months, eating right, running, playing on an organized basketball team (when I was in the military) and I always felt great after a real hard workout, especially when I had a great girl in my life, all bills were paid, I was saving money (since I wasn't spending it all on dope). SO yeah, I couldn't agree more on that.


by the way where did/do you play football? Is this American football or fUtbol? lol
 
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If it's any consolation to the OP, you don't come across as being a dick to me. There's nothin wrong with encouraging people to exercise. I mean, there's other forums you could put it in, I suppose....
A lot of these so called experts are just parroting info they heard, or digging up the info through internet searches....However, It does seem like some Blers are actually more "qualified" than others to speak on these things....Chemistry background/degree etc......which I respect more than the "Harm reduction party-line bullshit" that seems pretty prevalent around here at times....
 
If I adhered to a rigorous "harm reduction" approach in my everyday life, all drug use aside, I'd probably never leave the fucking house!! There's "common sense harm reduction" and then there's shit that less than 1.5% of the drug using population would ever do....It's great to cover all bases, and if it saves 1 life every ten years, I suppose it's worth it.
 
I agree with tri-comb on all 3 posts. Including the double post. EDIT YOUR POSTS, MOD! ;)
 
^Congratulations, you are not a moron lacking experience, and your vast wisdom is indispensable!
I also like to consume ripe cucumbers whole in one swallow!!
 
This thread is going no where, so I'm going to send it straight to hell.

Being a moderator on bluelight does not require a chemistry background or degree. You are right Bluehues, that some of us do rely on Internet searches or other forms of research to answer questions here, but a good moderator will understand the information and provide sources for the info he/she is dishing out. Furthermore, having an extensive background in chemistry is not really necessairy to provide usefull harm reduction information. It's a plus no doubt, but there are a lot of good mods that know their shit regardless of their education. If you are so completely dissatisfied with some of our performances I would ask you to please apply to be a moderator in Other Drugs as we are currently looking for applicants. An elitist of your magnitude and intellect would be a priceless addition to the team, I have no doubt about it.
 
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