Not ready for DMT?

[Axed]

So over the summer, I came into some DMT from my friend. Since then, I have tried it three times. The first was almost completely unsuccessful -- only some lightheadedness and weirdness. The second time, I felt myself coming up, hard and fast. Things started moving around a little, but before I knew it, I was coming down. The third time, the same thing happened, except slightly more intense, and accompanied with nausea (but I think that was from the horrendous plastic taste in the back of my throat). For the latter two attempts, the come-up was accompanied with a strong sense of anxiousness, even though I had no reason to be. Even after all effects diminished, I still felt off, and distant from my friends that I was with.

I think perhaps I am not ready for such a powerful drug as this. I hope one day I will run into it again, and at that point, I will be able to achieve its full potential.

Thoughts?

 

[Mylo]

I've found some people don't get much out of dmt the first few times, theres a learning curve, especially with lower doses.

I'd say if you want to give it one more try before maybe letting it be for a while then rip a big dose (like 50mg+) on your own, in silence, with a relaxed body and mind.

Always remember to surrender to the drug, whatever it decides to show you. Good luck

 

[ColtDan]

i think you have shit DMT. bad DMT extraction or something. never met anybody who didnt blast off their first time. its not about "being ready" ... nothing can prepare you for it.

 

[Mylo]

i think you have shit DMT. bad DMT extraction or something. never met anybody who didnt blast off their first time. its not about "being ready" ... nothing can prepare you for it.

Ive seen people smoke huge doses and not go very far, there mind keeping them grounded and not letting them go. But then i've personally broke through on no more than 15mg on occasion. Dmt is not completley dose dependant in my experience.

Unless what you say is right and the dmt had degraded or isn't dmt at all! did anyone else have problems getting decent experiences from the same batch OP?

 

[IamMe90]

I'd say the differences are attributable to smoking technique more than anything else. What kind of apparatus you use, the technique, the size of the hits you take, etc will contribute a lot to how far you blast off. I've broken through on 50mg smoked and not broken through on 70mg smoked the next day with the same batch... sometimes I'm too anxious from the rapid come up to keep hitting enough to break through.

 

[Axed]

Unless what you say is right and the dmt had degraded or isn't dmt at all! did anyone else have problems getting decent experiences from the same batch OP?

On a few occasions my friends broke through, or at least got close. A few reported rapidly changing visual patterns, and all that good stuff. However, I think I have a naturally high tolerance, so that could also be a factor.

I'd say if you want to give it one more try before maybe letting it be for a while then rip a big dose (like 50mg+) on your own, in silence, with a relaxed body and mind.

I definitely agree-- I actually have a little left that I can scrape off of all the vials, and I think when I decide to do it, it's going to be alone in the safe place. I really disliked doing it around people, even my closest friends. It made me feel really withdrawn.

Oh and the closest I got to breaking through was with a lightbulb vape, so that's probably what I'll use in the future.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a perfect extraction. I'm pretty sure it was my friend's friend that did it, and who knows how good they were at it. But it is DMT, I'm sure of that.

 

[Mylo]

I really disliked doing it around people, even my closest friends. It made me feel really withdrawn.

Yeah i used to be exactly the same, i find its a completly personal experience where the outside world has no relevance at all, so other people around me just used to add unnecessary anxiety. Only now that i'm extremely comfortable with dmt can i enjoy lower doses with friends.

Also using a light bulb or glass pipe (meth style) to smoke always made it really hard for me to get decent sized hits into my lungs quickly as it takes longer to heat it all up.Layering it between a herb and smoking through a regular pipe or bong has always been my preferred method.

If you ever obtain a larger amount put in the extra effort and infuse it to into a herb (peppermint or caapi leaves if you want to use a maoi) using a solvent (ipa or acetone) which makes the whole process much easier.

 

[lightitup]

I agree with the above user that it is probably technique and setting. Smoking spice is an art, and it isn't known right away. The best technique I found for beginners is a bowl of tobacco/weed with crystals spread on top. Try to hold the flame a little above the DMT, it will turn into liquid and melt into the leaves. It isn't about the size of the hit as much as the time you hold it. So take a few smaller hits, and hold them for like 30 seconds. Long time.

Biggest factor is the environment though. I smoked DMT 3 times without having a breakthrough, but I was always with others. The first time I did it by myself, in silence, was a really really different experience. The rule I usually tell people who want to is a dark room, alone. The lightbulb and tweakpipe are good ideas, but not easy for beginners in my opinion. Just take small hits and hold them, until you literally can't get the pipe to your mouth again (3 usually, sometimes 2). I usually drop my pipe, so be on a bed or blanket, usually with a piece you aren't too attached too.

It is very intense, but the most incredible psychedelic in my opinion. Be safe, have fun, and come back with details!

 

[Help?!?!]

Smoking DMT is like other stated all about proper technique and about how well your extract was done IMO. It goes into all avenues as smoking DMT isn't like smoking/vaping any other substance on this planet once again IMO. You have to learn to hold it in properly for the proper amount of time and learn to do all this in good time structure and the like. Its very important to try to take the first hit medium, then the second the largest(hold the first hit in for 15ish seconds, total time to vape so far would be like 25ish seconds)meaning you really milk the fuck out of it, and then when you can't hold it in any longer exhale this and retrieve the remainder. Best way to get a very strong breakthrough 99% of the time as long as a solid dose is used. Advice though, even if the DMT is shit, dependent on what doses you've done so far(say the last dose was the highest and was 45 mgs)you might just be able to fuck the DMT and just vape 120 mgs in a single go, which will do something even if the DMT is pretty shitty. Also that anxiety feeling and asking if your ready for Dimitri is useless. The anxiety will be there during that rocket ride come up occasionally no matter what. I mean what would you expect a ride to the moon to be like if we could travel at the speed of light? Probably nothing like the face flapping G ride you get now......There is no ready for DMT IMO, only ready......set.....GO!

 

[ColtDan]

ive found extracts that are quite unclean make me feel quite sick, also the ride is quite "muddy" and sloppy and lack some clarity. cant really explain it. DMT.... such a beautiful substance. i love sharing this stuff around with people, the reactions are priceless. everybody loves it to bits

 

[Axed]

Thank you everyone for your advice! It's all really helpful and reassuring. I know that DMT is an amazing chemical, and I really want to be able to have a breakthrough experience. From having done other psychs and salvia, I know it has the potential to truly be a magical learning experience.

The first two times I tried it actually was in a bowl. The first time we sandwiched it in between weed, and the second we used a bed of fresh mint. With both of those attempts, I was fearful of destroying the DMT with heat, and I think that might have held me back from being successful.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Your first three experiences sound a lot like what happens to me when I simply don't smoke enough. That was how my first three or four trials with DMT went as well.

Also, I am skeptical that there is such thing as being "ready" for DMT. I think you're pretty much born ready for something like DMT.

 

[TheAppleCore]

DMT.... such a beautiful substance. i love sharing this stuff around with people, the reactions are priceless. everybody loves it to bits

Hey ColtDan, how much experience have you gotten with DMT since you were initially smoking it on alcohol? (Or am I thinking of someone else?) I'm wondering if you found that smoking it sober allowed you to go any deeper.

 

[ColtDan]

^ absolute bollocks tbh. ive hit the pipe up a lot harder and gone deeper by myself, every time. all my trips alone have been deeper and better. not a fan of using this stuff around people, get too distracted. for me this stuff is personal exploration, its like a message from mother nature herself. dont need anybody egging me on

 

[ColtDan]

Hey ColtDan, how much experience have you gotten with DMT since you were initially smoking it on alcohol? (Or am I thinking of someone else?) I'm wondering if you found that smoking it sober allowed you to go any deeper.

it hasn't allowed me to go deeper, however smoking it sober feels cleaner and better, and i can remember more when i return. it feels more natural. when i smoke it drunk it puts massive emphasis on the fact that i have dirty nasty poisonous shit effecting the trip

i love alcohol to bits though, but it really doesn't mix well with phycs in my opinion